Adding mpeg playback
Hello Andriani, our partners in Turkey are asking if the laptop can do mpeg playback. I said there are no technical reasons why it couldn't, but there are restrictive patent laws in the United States that do not let us ship mpeg software on the laptop. We bundle Ogg Theora as a replacement. They asked me if there would be problems for Turkey and I thaid that while I did not know their IP law, I hear it's not a problem in many European countries. Do you know better? And for the devel people: what should I do exactly to add mpeg support? Is installing gstreamer-ffmpeg from Livna enough? And how can we deploy such customizations in the future? Maybe we could add package installation support to the customization key? Or have as many build variants as required? -- \___/ |___| Bernie Innocenti - http://www.codewiz.org/ \___\ CTO OLPC Europe - http://www.laptop.org/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Adding mpeg playback
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bernie Innocenti wrote: | They asked me if there would be problems for Turkey and I | thaid that while I did not know their IP law, I hear it's | not a problem in many European countries. | | Do you know better? Read this: http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9887955-7.html Europe is no longer free of software patents; in fact, it's actually _worse_ than the US. In the US, it's a matter of litigation, and your stuff can be taken away after trial. In Europe, it appears that the police will happily show up at your trade show and confiscate your booth without warning. - --Ben -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFICKC8UJT6e6HFtqQRAifNAJ9inRzUIWASSEDX7A8ztVvqNO/4LwCfYtSp TcaZ7AGicyH97unwnHhy9jo= =l4fW -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Adding mpeg playback
On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 09:23 -0400, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: Read this: http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9887955-7.html Europe is no longer free of software patents; in fact, it's actually _worse_ than the US. In the US, it's a matter of litigation, and your stuff can be taken away after trial. In Europe, it appears that the police will happily show up at your trade show and confiscate your booth without warning. Uh. Somehow, I had not connected this event with the EU parliament thing. I'm cc'ing Benjamin Henrion, of the FFII. I had dinner with him last week in Brussels and we discussed the European software patent situation for a while. Benjamin, what do you think? Where exactly would mpeg video codecs be legal within Europe? I think this topic is of interest to OLPC, but if other people of devel@ think otherwise, we can take this potentially hot thread off list. -- \___/ |___| Bernie Innocenti - http://www.codewiz.org/ \___\ CTO OLPC Europe - http://www.laptop.org/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Adding mpeg playback
Out of curiosity, why are they not giving Theora a try? -Ivo ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Adding mpeg playback
On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 14:51 +0100, Ivo Emanuel Gonçalves wrote: Out of curiosity, why are they not giving Theora a try? They gave me an mpeg video of the ministry of education speaking and asked me to make it play on the laptop. I said we'd have to convert it to theora. They asked me how could they do it on Windows. I said I was not sure such a converter existed for Windows. On Linux, I use ffmpeg2theora or just ffmpeg. -- \___/ |___| Bernie Innocenti - http://www.codewiz.org/ \___\ CTO OLPC Europe - http://www.laptop.org/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Adding mpeg playback
Bernie Innocenti wrote: On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 14:51 +0100, Ivo Emanuel Gonçalves wrote: Out of curiosity, why are they not giving Theora a try? They gave me an mpeg video of the ministry of education speaking and asked me to make it play on the laptop. I said we'd have to convert it to theora. They asked me how could they do it on Windows. I said I was not sure such a converter existed for Windows. On Linux, I use ffmpeg2theora or just ffmpeg. VLC on Windows should be able to do this (note: I haven't verified this myself). Sameer -- Dr. Sameer Verma, Ph.D. Associate Professor of Information Systems San Francisco State University San Francisco CA 94132 USA http://verma.sfsu.edu/ http://opensource.sfsu.edu/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Adding mpeg playback
On 4/18/08, Sameer Verma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: VLC on Windows should be able to do this (note: I haven't verified this myself). Yes, and ffmpeg2theora also works in Windows. Because this is indeed the one big problem with Theora (tools), Xiph has a Summer of Code project to create a cross-platform GUI wrapper for ffmpeg2theora and the other encoders (Vorbis, FLAC, Speex). Hopefully that will be completed with success and make everyone happy. Resulting in peace, love and bunnies. Ok, maybe minus that last bit. -Ivo ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
