Re: Announcing the OLPC OS 10.1.2 final release!

2010-09-21 Thread NoiseEHC
  Hi!

I just had a little time to try 852 on the XO-1 and there were some bugs 
I have found. I am not sure whether anybody will fix them ever but here 
they are nevertheless:
1. When the screen is rotated 180 degrees the PgUp and PgDn game keys 
are not rotated.
2. The control panel does not remember the unchecked state of the Radio 
On checkbox.
3. There is something terribly wrong with suspend (most likely the EC 
code). Sometimes it just switches off the closed laptop. After I boot it 
there is plenty of power in the battery so it is not a low power 
situation. It happens regularly that after the XO-1 wakes up to reduce 
the back light brightness it cannot go to sleep again. I think that it 
is the EC code because the blinking power led sometimes has an erratic 
rhythm (with a closed laptop).
4. The geode driver still has the mode select bug described here:
http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2010-September/029875.html

Not sure whether there was a point reporting this list though.
Thanks,
NoiseEHC

On 2010.08.31. 3:00, Chris Ball wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm very pleased to announce build os852 as the final 10.1.2 release
 build for XO-1 and XO-1.5 laptops.  Here are its release notes:

 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/10.1.2

 Instructions for installing the release on an XO can be found at:

 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/10.1.2#Installation

 Many thanks to everyone -- testers, translators, documenters,
 developers and others -- who contributed to this release!  As I
 mentioned when announcing that this release would happen, being
 able to release 10.1.2 for both XO-1 and XO-1.5 at the same time
 was enabled by a group of volunteers who created XO-1 Fedora 11
 builds: our particular thanks to Daniel Drake, Bernie Innocenti
 and Steven M. Parrish for their work towards this release.

 - Chris.

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Re: Announcing the OLPC OS 10.1.2 final release!

2010-09-21 Thread James Zaki
Hi NoiseEHC,

I dont know if there is a better place to note your feedback, but I'm glad
you posted here.
Am currently looking into the olpc forth programs, and this email has given
me something to target for the time being.

Cheers,
James.


2010/9/21 NoiseEHC noise...@freemail.hu

  Hi!

 I just had a little time to try 852 on the XO-1 and there were some bugs
 I have found. I am not sure whether anybody will fix them ever but here
 they are nevertheless:
 1. When the screen is rotated 180 degrees the PgUp and PgDn game keys
 are not rotated.
 2. The control panel does not remember the unchecked state of the Radio
 On checkbox.
 3. There is something terribly wrong with suspend (most likely the EC
 code). Sometimes it just switches off the closed laptop. After I boot it
 there is plenty of power in the battery so it is not a low power
 situation. It happens regularly that after the XO-1 wakes up to reduce
 the back light brightness it cannot go to sleep again. I think that it
 is the EC code because the blinking power led sometimes has an erratic
 rhythm (with a closed laptop).
 4. The geode driver still has the mode select bug described here:
 http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2010-September/029875.html

 Not sure whether there was a point reporting this list though.
 Thanks,
 NoiseEHC

 On 2010.08.31. 3:00, Chris Ball wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I'm very pleased to announce build os852 as the final 10.1.2 release
  build for XO-1 and XO-1.5 laptops.  Here are its release notes:
 
  http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/10.1.2
 
  Instructions for installing the release on an XO can be found at:
 
  http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/10.1.2#Installation
 
  Many thanks to everyone -- testers, translators, documenters,
  developers and others -- who contributed to this release!  As I
  mentioned when announcing that this release would happen, being
  able to release 10.1.2 for both XO-1 and XO-1.5 at the same time
  was enabled by a group of volunteers who created XO-1 Fedora 11
  builds: our particular thanks to Daniel Drake, Bernie Innocenti
  and Steven M. Parrish for their work towards this release.
 
  - Chris.

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Re: Announcing the OLPC OS 10.1.2 final release!

2010-09-21 Thread NoiseEHC
  5. Missed that the camera led blinks when the laptop is in a suspended 
state so probably something wakes up the laptop. But why does it touches 
the camera is beyond my understanding.

On 2010.09.21. 16:02, NoiseEHC wrote:
Hi!

 I just had a little time to try 852 on the XO-1 and there were some bugs
 I have found. I am not sure whether anybody will fix them ever but here
 they are nevertheless:
 1. When the screen is rotated 180 degrees the PgUp and PgDn game keys
 are not rotated.
 2. The control panel does not remember the unchecked state of the Radio
 On checkbox.
 3. There is something terribly wrong with suspend (most likely the EC
 code). Sometimes it just switches off the closed laptop. After I boot it
 there is plenty of power in the battery so it is not a low power
 situation. It happens regularly that after the XO-1 wakes up to reduce
 the back light brightness it cannot go to sleep again. I think that it
 is the EC code because the blinking power led sometimes has an erratic
 rhythm (with a closed laptop).
 4. The geode driver still has the mode select bug described here:
 http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2010-September/029875.html

 Not sure whether there was a point reporting this list though.
 Thanks,
 NoiseEHC

 On 2010.08.31. 3:00, Chris Ball wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm very pleased to announce build os852 as the final 10.1.2 release
 build for XO-1 and XO-1.5 laptops.  Here are its release notes:

  http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/10.1.2

 Instructions for installing the release on an XO can be found at:

  http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/10.1.2#Installation

 Many thanks to everyone -- testers, translators, documenters,
 developers and others -- who contributed to this release!  As I
 mentioned when announcing that this release would happen, being
 able to release 10.1.2 for both XO-1 and XO-1.5 at the same time
 was enabled by a group of volunteers who created XO-1 Fedora 11
 builds: our particular thanks to Daniel Drake, Bernie Innocenti
 and Steven M. Parrish for their work towards this release.

 - Chris.
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Re: Announcing the OLPC OS 10.1.2 final release!

2010-09-21 Thread Richard A. Smith
On 09/21/2010 10:02 AM, NoiseEHC wrote:

 3. There is something terribly wrong with suspend (most likely the EC
 code). Sometimes it just switches off the closed laptop. After I boot it
 there is plenty of power in the battery so it is not a low power
 situation.

Thats by design. There is an auto shutdown off at 4 hours of inactivity. 
  If you don't want that then change the powerd config file. in 
/etc/powerd set config_MAX_SLEEP_BEFORE_SHUTDOWN to 0 which will 
disable that feature.

 It happens regularly that after the XO-1 wakes up to reduce
 the back light brightness it cannot go to sleep again.

Please upgrade to the latest powerd (powerd 28) and see if your issue 
persists.

http://dev.laptop.org/~pgf/rpms/olpc-powerd-28-1.fc11.i586.rpm

(you will need the --force option to rpm to install the package)
If it persists then please enable powerd tracing, recreate the problem, 
and then send the log file to p...@laptop.org and copy me please.  You 
can enable powerd tracing by:

sudo powerd-config =trace-on

The trace log is in /var/log/powerd.trace

/var/log is a ram filesystem so if the machine shuts down you will lose 
the trace.  If you need it across a shutdown then edit /usr/sbin/powerd 
and change the  LOGFILE= to somewhere disk based.  Note: that the path 
to the logfile must exist.

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Re: Announcing the OLPC OS 10.1.2 final release!

2010-09-21 Thread Hal Murray

noise...@freemail.hu said:
 2. The control panel does not remember the unchecked state of the Radio  On
 checkbox. 

Is the problem that it doesn't remember or that it gets things backwards?

I remember getting confused in that area.  To me, the description of the 
checkbox seemed backwards from what it was doing.  (But it did something and 
remembered what it was doing.)

  http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/10317


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Re: Announcing the OLPC OS 10.1.2 final release!

2010-09-21 Thread NoiseEHC
  It is more problematic than that.

1. When the Radio is checked (on) after boot I see the 3 mesh networks 
and the XO-1 can see other access points.
2. When the Radio is unchecked (off) then I see neither mesh networks 
nor other access points.
3. Setting on-off seems to work and the checkbox shows the correct setting.
4. However if I make it unchecked (off) and restart then after booting I 
can see 3 mesh networks but no other access points. Closing and 
reopening the laptop scans no access points (I do this because there is 
a lack of 'rescan' button anywhere). If I manually switch the radio off 
then on it starts to work.

So it seems that the disabled setting only disables the radio halfway on 
boot and the control panel sees it as a working radio...

On 2010.09.21. 21:24, Hal Murray wrote:
 noise...@freemail.hu said:
 2. The control panel does not remember the unchecked state of the Radio  On
 checkbox.
 Is the problem that it doesn't remember or that it gets things backwards?

 I remember getting confused in that area.  To me, the description of the
 checkbox seemed backwards from what it was doing.  (But it did something and
 remembered what it was doing.)

http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/10317



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Re: [support-gang] [IAEP] Announcing the OLPC OS 10.1.2 final release!

2010-09-07 Thread Paul Fox
kevin wrote:
  On Mon, Sep 06, 2010 at 10:16:42AM -0700, Sameer Verma wrote:
   James,
   
   I've noticed this when updating fully drained XOs. The power indicator
   blinks when plugged in, but upon reflashing, when the XO reboots, it
   won't apply the firmware because the battery is too low, and will skip
   to booting into the new OS image.
   
  
  Would it be worth someones time to find a way to notify the user about this:
  That it is waiting to be plugged-in or for sufficient voltage before it
  completes the firmware upgrade.
  Would this be OFW or OLPC OS work?

i believe the user is already notified, with a warning in red, that
the flash update has been skipped.  but it's true that that warning
isn't localized, and is relatively easy to miss (since the system
keeps booting).

the assumption is that the firmware will be updated the next time the
laptop _is_ booted with two power sources, and that that laptop will
function adequately until that time.  it would certainly be
possible to write a frame applet that that warned about this
condition, by comparing the available firmware to the installed
firmware.

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Re: [support-gang] [IAEP] Announcing the OLPC OS 10.1.2 final release!

2010-09-07 Thread Kevin Mark
On Mon, Sep 06, 2010 at 10:16:42AM -0700, Sameer Verma wrote:
 On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 8:10 PM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote:
  On Fri, Sep 03, 2010 at 06:12:56PM -0700, Cherry Withers wrote:
  Ok. I MIGHT have found the culprit to my XO 1.5 firmware not
  updating issue. I noticed my laptop that's plugged in to a surge
  protector (the same surge protector that I used when I updated the
  1.5) , momentarily dimmed when I moved the surge protector with my
  foot. I just noticed that today. So I plugged in my XO 1.0 to a wall
  socket instead to update and both the Sugar and Firmware updated to
  the latest release build. Will investigate further with XO 1.5 when
  I'm ready.
 
  Excellent.  Yes, you've found a potential cause alright.
 
  Most other non-XO laptops won't indicate the presence of external power
  if that external power is below par in some way, such as a bad
  connection in a surge protector.
 
  OLPC XO laptops are different, because they are intended to be charged
  directly from a solar panel as well.  The difference means that an OLPC
  XO laptop may indicate with the power LED that it is connected to power,
  yet that power may not be sufficient to maintain the battery charge or
  upgrade firmware.
 
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 I've noticed this when updating fully drained XOs. The power indicator
 blinks when plugged in, but upon reflashing, when the XO reboots, it
 won't apply the firmware because the battery is too low, and will skip
 to booting into the new OS image.
 

Would it be worth someones time to find a way to notify the user about this:
That it is waiting to be plugged-in or for sufficient voltage before it
completes the firmware upgrade.
Would this be OFW or OLPC OS work?
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Re: [support-gang] [IAEP] Announcing the OLPC OS 10.1.2 final release!

2010-09-07 Thread James Cameron
On Tue, Sep 07, 2010 at 07:00:42AM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote:
 Would it be worth someones time to find a way to notify the user about
 this: That it is waiting to be plugged-in or for sufficient voltage
 before it completes the firmware upgrade.

Worth it?  Not sure.  It is hard to see how many people would be
affected.

I agree with Paul, it could be done as a Sugar frame device icon, or
even a use of notify-send from a post-boot script.  notify-send works
fine for GNOME.  Probably worth fixing Sugar's display of notify-send
output though.  ;-(  It only displays an icon top right corner.  0.84.

I wouldn't do it in OpenFirmware, it's already done there and still
people don't read it.

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Re: [Testing] [support-gang] [IAEP] Announcing the OLPC OS 10.1.2 final release!

2010-09-07 Thread John Watlington

On Sep 5, 2010, at 11:10 PM, James Cameron wrote:

 On Fri, Sep 03, 2010 at 06:12:56PM -0700, Cherry Withers wrote:
 Ok. I MIGHT have found the culprit to my XO 1.5 firmware not
 updating issue. I noticed my laptop that's plugged in to a surge
 protector (the same surge protector that I used when I updated the
 1.5) , momentarily dimmed when I moved the surge protector with my
 foot. I just noticed that today. So I plugged in my XO 1.0 to a wall
 socket instead to update and both the Sugar and Firmware updated to
 the latest release build. Will investigate further with XO 1.5 when
 I'm ready.
 
 Excellent.  Yes, you've found a potential cause alright.
 
 Most other non-XO laptops won't indicate the presence of external power
 if that external power is below par in some way, such as a bad
 connection in a surge protector.
 
 OLPC XO laptops are different, because they are intended to be charged
 directly from a solar panel as well.  The difference means that an OLPC
 XO laptop may indicate with the power LED that it is connected to power,
 yet that power may not be sufficient to maintain the battery charge or
 upgrade firmware.

Especially if it is a non-production XO-1.5.   They had an interesting
feature in that they will operate with a 7 to 9 VDC input, but don't
recognize that they are plugged into external power.

Cheers,
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Re: [support-gang] [IAEP] Announcing the OLPC OS 10.1.2 final release!

2010-09-06 Thread Sameer Verma
On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 8:10 PM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote:
 On Fri, Sep 03, 2010 at 06:12:56PM -0700, Cherry Withers wrote:
 Ok. I MIGHT have found the culprit to my XO 1.5 firmware not
 updating issue. I noticed my laptop that's plugged in to a surge
 protector (the same surge protector that I used when I updated the
 1.5) , momentarily dimmed when I moved the surge protector with my
 foot. I just noticed that today. So I plugged in my XO 1.0 to a wall
 socket instead to update and both the Sugar and Firmware updated to
 the latest release build. Will investigate further with XO 1.5 when
 I'm ready.

 Excellent.  Yes, you've found a potential cause alright.

 Most other non-XO laptops won't indicate the presence of external power
 if that external power is below par in some way, such as a bad
 connection in a surge protector.

 OLPC XO laptops are different, because they are intended to be charged
 directly from a solar panel as well.  The difference means that an OLPC
 XO laptop may indicate with the power LED that it is connected to power,
 yet that power may not be sufficient to maintain the battery charge or
 upgrade firmware.

 --
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 http://quozl.linux.org.au/
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James,

I've noticed this when updating fully drained XOs. The power indicator
blinks when plugged in, but upon reflashing, when the XO reboots, it
won't apply the firmware because the battery is too low, and will skip
to booting into the new OS image.

cheers,
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Re: [support-gang] [IAEP] Announcing the OLPC OS 10.1.2 final release!

2010-09-06 Thread James Cameron
On Mon, Sep 06, 2010 at 10:16:42AM -0700, Sameer Verma wrote:
 I've noticed this when updating fully drained XOs. The power indicator
 blinks when plugged in, ...

Yes, that blink is the internal embedded controller starting up after
having shutdown automatically due to lack of power.  When you see that
blink, that's what it means.  You can also see it every time you plug in
with no battery present.  XO-1.5 only.

 but upon reflashing, when the XO reboots, it won't apply the firmware
 because the battery is too low, and will skip to booting into the new
 OS image.

Yes, the update firmware step checks for adequate battery level.  XO-1
and XO-1.5.

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Re: [support-gang] [IAEP] Announcing the OLPC OS 10.1.2 final release!

2010-09-05 Thread James Cameron
On Fri, Sep 03, 2010 at 06:12:56PM -0700, Cherry Withers wrote:
 Ok. I MIGHT have found the culprit to my XO 1.5 firmware not
 updating issue. I noticed my laptop that's plugged in to a surge
 protector (the same surge protector that I used when I updated the
 1.5) , momentarily dimmed when I moved the surge protector with my
 foot. I just noticed that today. So I plugged in my XO 1.0 to a wall
 socket instead to update and both the Sugar and Firmware updated to
 the latest release build. Will investigate further with XO 1.5 when
 I'm ready.

Excellent.  Yes, you've found a potential cause alright.

Most other non-XO laptops won't indicate the presence of external power
if that external power is below par in some way, such as a bad
connection in a surge protector.

OLPC XO laptops are different, because they are intended to be charged
directly from a solar panel as well.  The difference means that an OLPC
XO laptop may indicate with the power LED that it is connected to power,
yet that power may not be sufficient to maintain the battery charge or
upgrade firmware.

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Re: [support-gang] [IAEP] Announcing the OLPC OS 10.1.2 final release!

2010-09-03 Thread Cherry Withers
Hi James,

Ok. I MIGHT have found the culprit to my XO 1.5 firmware not updating
issue. I noticed my laptop that's plugged in to a surge protector (the same
surge protector that I used when I updated the 1.5) , momentarily dimmed
when I moved the surge protector with my foot. I just noticed that today. So
I plugged in my XO 1.0 to a wall socket instead to update and both the Sugar
and Firmware updated to the latest release build. Will investigate further
with XO 1.5 when I'm ready.

However, updating my XO 1.0 to the latest release is not very peachy. I will
post it in a separate e-mail as it is a continuing saga of instability.

Best,
Cherry
P.S. Thanks for the advice on the Nandblaster!

On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 9:20 PM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote:

 On Thu, Sep 02, 2010 at 05:06:30PM -0700, Cherry Withers wrote:
  To clarify...yes, I used olpc-update not fs-update. I'd like to chase
  the root of this idiosyncrasy [...]

 I've just tested that olpc-update does cause a firmware update ...
 installed Q3A45, then installed build os303, on reboot firmware was
 updated to Q3A46, then ran olpc-update to os852, on reboot firmware was
 updated to Q3A48.

 So whatever the problem is, it doesn't appear to be common to other
 laptops.  Let me know when you are available to continue investigating.

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Re: [IAEP] Announcing the OLPC OS 10.1.2 final release!

2010-09-02 Thread Cherry Withers
Thank you to everyone who worked on this!

I'm working on aggregating information that I'm getting from the wiki pages
into a step-by-step guide in preparation for our pilot in the Philippines. I
have a few questions:

In http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Firmware , it says  Upgrading the
XOhttp://wiki.laptop.org/go/Upgrading_the_XOto a new
release http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Releases usually updates both the
firmware and the operating system software. Users should update to the
latest stable release to get the latest stable versions of both.

When I updated to the new Sugar release of 852, the Firmware stayed in its
old version of Q3A36. So the statement above is incorrect? Or is this just a
matter of doing a clean build (using the first part of the instructions on
the wiki) versus an update?   Is Q3A50 the accompanying release version
of the firmware?

In http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Nandblaster_for_XO-1.5

- I'm assuming that finding the channel for either the sender happens
automatically (ie, there's no need for additional set-up by going through
the neighborhood and connecting to a wifi network, etc.). It's just a matter
of both the receiver and sender to be on the same channel and to ensure
success just force the channel (in my head I've associated the channels to
the mesh channels which are no longer in XO 1.5)?

- there are no instructions for setting up the Receiver. Is it safe to
assume that we should follow the instructions for NANDblasting the XO 1.0
when it comes to the Receiver?

Thanks,
Cherry

On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 2:03 AM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote:

 El Mon, 30-08-2010 a las 21:00 -0400, Chris Ball escribió:
  I'm very pleased to announce build os852 as the final 10.1.2 release
  build for XO-1 and XO-1.5 laptops.
 [...]

 Kudos!

 Shouldn't this go to devel-annou...@lists.laptop.org as well?

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Re: [support-gang] [IAEP] Announcing the OLPC OS 10.1.2 final release!

2010-09-02 Thread Cherry Withers
Hi James,

I didn't get your e-mail yesterday! Thanks for resending! That was most
helpful.

To clarify...yes, I used olpc-update not fs-update. I'd like to chase the
root of this idiosyncrasy however I'm also in the midst of user testing for
Squeakland (Etoys) and my priority is getting Etoys 4.1 tested with the
latest build Sugar build.

The whole purpose of my query is to write a step-by-step guide for another
organization (Education Kindling) team in the Philippines because they have
incoming laptops that need to be ready for deployment, in hopefully two
weeks. It's not a big pilot. Just 100 XO 1.5s. I just noticed the firmware
oddity when I was reading through the directions online and checking my
firmware build.

Thank you for pointing out the Receiver set-up! I glanced at the headings
quickly and didn't read it carefully. Thank you! I have no way of going
through the steps of NandBlasting (though I've done so with the XO 1.0) as I
only have one 1.5, but I will include the steps as it looks like it's
already been tested.

Also, please let me know if there's a quick set-up guide in a handy dandy
pdf/word doc already available out there. I certainly don't want to reinvent
the wheel.

I am expecting another week of Etoys test and then I'll go ahead and try to
reproduce the oddity that I observed.

Thank you for your time!!!
Cherry

On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 4:53 PM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote:

 On Wed, Sep 01, 2010 at 12:16:01PM -0700, Cherry Withers wrote:
  When I updated to the new Sugar [OLPC OS] release of 852, the Firmware
  stayed in its old version of Q3A36.

 Was external power connected at the time of a reboot?  Only then will
 firmware be updated.  If not, it's a bug, and I'll need to work with you
 to determine the cause.  Let me know if the external power was connected
 before a reboot?

  So the statement above is incorrect?

 No, I don't think so.

  Or is this just a matter of doing a clean build (using the first part
  of the instructions on the wiki) versus an update?

 It should also happen after an olpc-update, is that what you did?  It's
 not clear from your mail.  How did you reach os852; using fs-update,
 using four game key press, or using olpc-update?

  Is Q3A50 the accompanying release version of the firmware?

 No, Q3A48 is the firmware version embedded in os852.  You need Q3A50 on
 a NANDblaster sender though.

  In http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Nandblaster_for_XO-1.5
 
  - I'm assuming that finding the channel for either the sender
  happens automatically (ie, there's no need for additional set-up by
  going through the neighborhood and connecting to a wifi network,
  etc.). It's just a matter of both the receiver and sender to be on the
  same channel ...

 The sender picks the channel with the least activity.  The receiver
 checks all channels for a sender.

  and to ensure success
  just force the channel

 Yes, forcing the channel may increase the chances of success, but doing
 it without knowledge of the radio conditions may decrease the chances of
 success.

  (in my head I've associated the channels to the mesh
  channels which are no longer in XO 1.5)?

 This may change.

  - there are no instructions for setting up the Receiver. Is it safe to
  assume that we should follow the instructions for NANDblasting the XO
  1.0 when it comes to the Receiver?

 There are instructions for setting up the receiver ... start them with
 the four game keys held down, says the page.  Then it says ... if this
 does not work, you may need to manually update the firmware first.  This
 should not be required for laptops shipped recently.

 If you've been using prototype laptops then you may need to upgrade the
 firmware version first.  What firmware version are they?  You mentioned
 Q3A36 above.  This is far too old.  The Wiki page says you should use
 Q3A45 or later if the laptops do not start receiving.

 The instructions do not describe how to upgrade the firmware first,
 because in most cases that will not be required, and besides the time
 cost of checking the firmware version is higher than the time cost of
 just trying to receive the broadcast.

 The procedure is optimised for mass deployment, not mass upgrade.

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Re: [support-gang] [IAEP] Announcing the OLPC OS 10.1.2 final release!

2010-09-02 Thread James Cameron
On Thu, Sep 02, 2010 at 05:06:30PM -0700, Cherry Withers wrote:
 To clarify...yes, I used olpc-update not fs-update. I'd like to chase
 the root of this idiosyncrasy [...]

I've just tested that olpc-update does cause a firmware update ...
installed Q3A45, then installed build os303, on reboot firmware was
updated to Q3A46, then ran olpc-update to os852, on reboot firmware was
updated to Q3A48.

So whatever the problem is, it doesn't appear to be common to other
laptops.  Let me know when you are available to continue investigating.

 The whole purpose of my query is to write a step-by-step guide for
 another organization (Education Kindling) team in the Philippines
 because they have incoming laptops that need to be ready for
 deployment, in hopefully two weeks.

The only way to be sure then is to configure your laptop for the exact
firmware version and build that the factory will be configuring the
pilot batch for.  You might not have that option, so you will need to be
prepared for a systemic analysis.

 I have no way of going through the steps of NandBlasting (though I've
 done so with the XO 1.0) as I only have one 1.5, but I will include
 the steps as it looks like it's already been tested.

I've certainly tested it extensively, but you deployment people are
wonderful at finding corner cases I never thought of.

You can go through the steps yourself, with just one XO-1.5, but it
won't actually complete the task.  Regardless, you will learn something,
and verify some level of readiness.

To test a sender, follow the instructions on the page.  The laptop will
happily broadcast the build, even though there are no receivers.

To test a receiver, follow the instructions, but instead of starting to
receive the build it should say:

Trying disk:\fs.zip
Trying ext:\fs.zip
Trying NANDblaster
Boot device: /dropin-fs:nb15_tx  Arguments: ssid:OLPC-NANDblaster
Scan for: OLPC-NANDblaster not found
Can't open network
ok

It does that if there is no sender operating nearby.  If it says
anything different, there's a potential problem.

I'm assuming unlocked, unsecured laptops, by the way.  If you've
specifically ordered them locked, there's other considerations.

 Also, please let me know if there's a quick set-up guide in a handy
 dandy pdf/word doc already available out there. I certainly don't want
 to reinvent the wheel.

I'm not aware of one, but that doesn't mean there isn't one.  I saw some
edits on wiki.laptop.org for pages called Deployment.  Perhaps check
there.

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Re: Announcing the OLPC OS 10.1.2 final release!

2010-09-01 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Mon, 30-08-2010 a las 21:00 -0400, Chris Ball escribió:
 I'm very pleased to announce build os852 as the final 10.1.2 release
 build for XO-1 and XO-1.5 laptops.
[...]

Kudos!

Shouldn't this go to devel-annou...@lists.laptop.org as well?

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Re: [support-gang] [IAEP] Announcing the OLPC OS 10.1.2 final release!

2010-09-01 Thread James Cameron
On Wed, Sep 01, 2010 at 12:16:01PM -0700, Cherry Withers wrote:
 When I updated to the new Sugar [OLPC OS] release of 852, the Firmware
 stayed in its old version of Q3A36.

Was external power connected at the time of a reboot?  Only then will
firmware be updated.  If not, it's a bug, and I'll need to work with you
to determine the cause.  Let me know if the external power was connected
before a reboot?

 So the statement above is incorrect?

No, I don't think so.

 Or is this just a matter of doing a clean build (using the first part
 of the instructions on the wiki) versus an update?

It should also happen after an olpc-update, is that what you did?  It's
not clear from your mail.  How did you reach os852; using fs-update,
using four game key press, or using olpc-update?

 Is Q3A50 the accompanying release version of the firmware?

No, Q3A48 is the firmware version embedded in os852.  You need Q3A50 on
a NANDblaster sender though.

 In http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Nandblaster_for_XO-1.5
 
 - I'm assuming that finding the channel for either the sender
 happens automatically (ie, there's no need for additional set-up by
 going through the neighborhood and connecting to a wifi network,
 etc.). It's just a matter of both the receiver and sender to be on the
 same channel ...

The sender picks the channel with the least activity.  The receiver
checks all channels for a sender.

 and to ensure success
 just force the channel 

Yes, forcing the channel may increase the chances of success, but doing
it without knowledge of the radio conditions may decrease the chances of
success.

 (in my head I've associated the channels to the mesh
 channels which are no longer in XO 1.5)?

This may change.

 - there are no instructions for setting up the Receiver. Is it safe to
 assume that we should follow the instructions for NANDblasting the XO
 1.0 when it comes to the Receiver?

There are instructions for setting up the receiver ... start them with
the four game keys held down, says the page.  Then it says ... if this
does not work, you may need to manually update the firmware first.  This
should not be required for laptops shipped recently.

If you've been using prototype laptops then you may need to upgrade the
firmware version first.  What firmware version are they?  You mentioned
Q3A36 above.  This is far too old.  The Wiki page says you should use
Q3A45 or later if the laptops do not start receiving.

The instructions do not describe how to upgrade the firmware first,
because in most cases that will not be required, and besides the time
cost of checking the firmware version is higher than the time cost of
just trying to receive the broadcast.

The procedure is optimised for mass deployment, not mass upgrade.

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Announcing the OLPC OS 10.1.2 final release!

2010-08-30 Thread Chris Ball
Hi,

I'm very pleased to announce build os852 as the final 10.1.2 release
build for XO-1 and XO-1.5 laptops.  Here are its release notes:

   http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/10.1.2

Instructions for installing the release on an XO can be found at:

   http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/10.1.2#Installation

Many thanks to everyone -- testers, translators, documenters,
developers and others -- who contributed to this release!  As I
mentioned when announcing that this release would happen, being
able to release 10.1.2 for both XO-1 and XO-1.5 at the same time
was enabled by a group of volunteers who created XO-1 Fedora 11
builds: our particular thanks to Daniel Drake, Bernie Innocenti
and Steven M. Parrish for their work towards this release.

- Chris.
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Re: Announcing the OLPC OS 10.1.2 final release!

2010-08-30 Thread Chris Marshall
I would like to add my thanks to these folks
for their hard work that has made possible some
of the potential of the XO-1 laptop.  My hope
is that the updated OS will allow for further
development of the Activities and Applications
for the XO laptop.

Thanks to all,
Chris

On 8/30/2010 9:00 PM, Chris Ball wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm very pleased to announce build os852 as the final 10.1.2 release
 build for XO-1 and XO-1.5 laptops.  Here are its release notes:

 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/10.1.2

 Instructions for installing the release on an XO can be found at:

 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/10.1.2#Installation

 Many thanks to everyone -- testers, translators, documenters,
 developers and others -- who contributed to this release!  As I
 mentioned when announcing that this release would happen, being
 able to release 10.1.2 for both XO-1 and XO-1.5 at the same time
 was enabled by a group of volunteers who created XO-1 Fedora 11
 builds: our particular thanks to Daniel Drake, Bernie Innocenti
 and Steven M. Parrish for their work towards this release.

 - Chris.
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