Re: Announcing the development of OLPC OS 13.2.1
Hi, James It would also be very helpful to have a release 12.2.0 for the XO-1. This release would incorporate the libertas patch and correct the firmware version. Perhaps the ds-backup.sh and ds-backup.py could be replaced with versions that correct the reported problems. If politically acceptable, this could also be shown on the release page as the recommended alternative for use with the XO-1. Tony On 06/12/2014 06:00 PM, devel-requ...@lists.laptop.org wrote: Message: 1 Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 15:26:00 +1000 From: James Cameronqu...@laptop.org To:devel@lists.laptop.org Subject: Announcing the development of OLPC OS 13.2.1 Message-ID:20140612052600.gf13...@us.netrek.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Announcing our next release cycle: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/13.2.1 Goal is to add hardware support for the new SIV121C camera sensor, and include wireless performance fixes published since 13.2.0. Scope is restricted to Open Firmware, and kernel. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Announcing the development of OLPC OS 13.2.1
Courageous Tony, speaking up for the uncountable voiceless around the world
keeping XO-1s in operation, long after their stated 5-year design life.
In Haiti as in other places, derivatives of Release 12.1.0 have been found
to be a genuine lifeline for XO-1s, with Releases 13.* too slow for
teachers and students quite vocal about classroom usability. While in
Haiti and the Contributors Program we use http://wiki.laptop.org/go/HaitiOS
based on 12.1.0, awareness that both Fedora 17 (underlying 12.1.0) and
Fedora 18 (underlying 13.*) have been End-of-Life'd during the past year (
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/End_of_life) is consoled by the fact the
vast majority of such XO-1s are used purely offline, immune from Internet
attacks for now.
XO-1 youth planetwide will remain silently and overwhelmingly offline, but
their needs {12.2.0, HaitiOS, Jon Nettleton has similar ideas??} should not
be forgotten until 2020 -- if not beyond? James Cameron and Nathan Riddle
are just some of the many who've kept these vital XO-1 communities purring,
long after the self-indulgent progress machine has forgotten Earth Day,
moving on to short-life-cycle planned obsolescence hardware that does not
survive this eBay community ecosystem test:
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Reuse_checklist
*Thank you new contributors and old for your truly priceless ongoing
assistance 7 years after mass production began Nov 2007 ! !*
On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 7:41 AM, Tony Anderson tony_ander...@usa.net
wrote:
Hi, James
It would also be very helpful to have a release 12.2.0 for the XO-1. This
release would incorporate
the libertas patch and correct the firmware version. Perhaps the
ds-backup.sh and ds-backup.py could
be replaced with versions that correct the reported problems. If
politically acceptable, this could also be shown on the release page as the
recommended alternative for use with the XO-1.
Tony
On 06/12/2014 06:00 PM, devel-requ...@lists.laptop.org wrote:
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Subject: Announcing the development of OLPC OS 13.2.1
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Announcing our next release cycle:
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/13.2.1
Goal is to add hardware support for the new SIV121C camera sensor, and
include wireless performance fixes published since 13.2.0.
Scope is restricted to Open Firmware, and kernel.
-- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/
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Re: Announcing the development of OLPC OS 13.2.1
not speaking for james or olpc, i think this sounds like a request for a volunteer project, and not something that should be directed at james. paul tony wrote: Hi, James It would also be very helpful to have a release 12.2.0 for the XO-1. This release would incorporate the libertas patch and correct the firmware version. Perhaps the ds-backup.sh and ds-backup.py could be replaced with versions that correct the reported problems. If politically acceptable, this could also be shown on the release page as the recommended alternative for use with the XO-1. Tony On 06/12/2014 06:00 PM, devel-requ...@lists.laptop.org wrote: Message: 1 Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 15:26:00 +1000 From: James Cameronqu...@laptop.org To:devel@lists.laptop.org Subject: Announcing the development of OLPC OS 13.2.1 Message-ID:20140612052600.gf13...@us.netrek.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Announcing our next release cycle: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/13.2.1 Goal is to add hardware support for the new SIV121C camera sensor, and include wireless performance fixes published since 13.2.0. Scope is restricted to Open Firmware, and kernel. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel =- paul fox, p...@laptop.org ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Announcing the development of OLPC OS 13.2.1
The main hurdle would be the DRM. no volunteer can possibly help where security is enabled. In Peru we had to lobby the government for the crypto keys but it might not be possible with smaller deployments that only have OLPC keys, then it might make sense to have a mechanism for James or OLPC to sign volunteer-built images? El vie, 13 de jun 2014 a las 8:27 AM, Paul Fox p...@laptop.org escribió: not speaking for james or olpc, i think this sounds like a request for a volunteer project ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Announcing the development of OLPC OS 13.2.1
I don't speak for OLPC, but I am working for them. As we're not producing XO-1 laptops at the moment, I can't really spend money on XO-1 work when there is XO-1.75 and XO-4 work to be done. The new camera is compatible with the XO-1, and it is the new camera driving the release. Any deployment wanting what Tony has asked for in a 12.1.1 can ask OLPC for a quote, or get someone else to do it. I recommend getting someone else to do it. Someone else has already made a customised 12.1.0, called HaitiOS, albeit without the tools that OLPC recommended, and thus it cannot be signed. No, I would not sign images we did not build, but I would be happy to take changes for a future release. Regarding the 12.1.0 vs 13.2.0 debate that Adam keeps raising, the underlying problem is more about management of expectations. The teachers and students were probably not involved in development, didn't get an early chance to point out the regression, and so Adam was burned. I find 12.1.0 as slow as 13.2.0, so I can't recommend it for XO-1 unless Gnome is used instead of Sugar. Some have said it was the fault of GTK3 migration, but I don't think so, as 12.1.0 had GTK3. I've seen a comparison table of activity startup time that was used to support Adam's position. I don't think it is useful, it was not peer reviewed by developers, it didn't take into account caching effects, and didn't measure the underlying problem, which was a lack of memory. And that's what it is. The problem is entirely a lack of memory. Adding swap to 13.2.0 fixes all the problems for me. There's probably quite a few things that can be done to trim the memory usage further. I just don't see anybody doing it. Instead people have repackaged the politically acceptable upstream version. Any forward looking attempt to support XO-1 should start with the Fedora 20 builds by Daniel Narvaez, identify the problems, and work on them. Where the storage is insufficient, the build could be installed on external SD card. Making that work looks like a trivial technical problem; rewriting a shell script. It won't scale though, because of the problems with the SD controller on the XO-1. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Announcing the development of OLPC OS 13.2.1
Great! Will test over the weekend. :) On Jun 12, 2014 10:56 AM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: Announcing our next release cycle: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/13.2.1 Goal is to add hardware support for the new SIV121C camera sensor, and include wireless performance fixes published since 13.2.0. Scope is restricted to Open Firmware, and kernel. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Announcing the development of OLPC OS 13.2.1
Thanks. Test reports are welcome. A build isn't available yet, it is still in development, but there are components that you can test early: XO-4 firmware: http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/q7b39jc.rom XO-4 kernel: http://dev.laptop.org/~kernels/public_rpms/f18-xo4/kernel-3.5.7_xo4-20140604.0345.olpc.a8976c9.armv7hl.rpm (or yum install kernel) XO-1.75 firmware: http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/q4d34jj.rom XO-1.75 kernel: http://dev.laptop.org/~kernels/public_rpms/f18-xo1.75/kernel-3.0.19_xo1.75-20140604.0722.olpc.0b42e20.armv7hl.rpm (or yum install kernel) XO-1 firmware: http://dev.laptop.org/pub/firmware/q2f20/q2f20.rom XO-1 kernel: http://dev.laptop.org/~kernels/public_rpms/f18-xo1/kernel-3.3.8_xo1-20140611.1200.olpc.355c89e.i686.rpm (or yum install kernel) -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Announcing the development of OLPC OS 13.2.1
Announcing our next release cycle: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/13.2.1 Goal is to add hardware support for the new SIV121C camera sensor, and include wireless performance fixes published since 13.2.0. Scope is restricted to Open Firmware, and kernel. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
