Re: B4 motherboard question

2008-07-15 Thread John Watlington

On Jul 15, 2008, at 9:47 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 2:37 AM, Guylhem Aznar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
> wrote:
>> I wouldn't necessarily want another machine - just a motherboard from
>> say a machine that has been returned with a broken screen, or
>> whatever, would be fine
>>
>> A fully working XO  would be best used for someone who hasn't one  
>> yet IMHO.
>>
>> Anyway, I'll drop a message
>
> There are some "refurbished" MPs - G1G1 or deploymetn machines that
> have come back to 1CC with a fixable problem - I got a few of those
> for testing, and they work mostly alright. One ofthem has a flakey
> keyboard, but otherwise good.
>
> If you are not afraid of refurbished kit do mention it, you might get
> a faster turnaround :-)

Unless your name is Martin, you live in NZ, and you speak
spanish with that smooth Argentinian/Uruguayan accent, we kindly
request that you use the developer program.  The small number of
"non-refurbished" machines are earmarked for testing, whereas the
developer program taps directly into production.

BTW, motherboard are not in general swappable between pre-production
builds.   I'm the person that has retrofitted the first motherboards  
brought up
into older plastic, and I don't recommend it (even if C2 -> B4 is one  
of the
easier ones.)

wad

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Re: B4 motherboard question

2008-07-15 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 2:37 AM, Guylhem Aznar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I wouldn't necessarily want another machine - just a motherboard from
> say a machine that has been returned with a broken screen, or
> whatever, would be fine
>
> A fully working XO  would be best used for someone who hasn't one yet IMHO.
>
> Anyway, I'll drop a message

There are some "refurbished" MPs - G1G1 or deploymetn machines that
have come back to 1CC with a fixable problem - I got a few of those
for testing, and they work mostly alright. One ofthem has a flakey
keyboard, but otherwise good.

If you are not afraid of refurbished kit do mention it, you might get
a faster turnaround :-)



m
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Re: B4 motherboard question

2008-07-15 Thread James Cameron
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 05:38:02PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
> I really wish that people receiving developer machines posted to devel
> or planet.laptop.org on a regular basis and, if possible, introduced
> themselves on our Profiles page. Do you think we could try to arrange
> this?

+1

Also, contributing developers could be given a list of ways in which
they can obtain support for their development ... if they need it ...
and not all will ... things that helped me greatly were:

- a shell in which I could unpack images or tarballs in order to grab
  something small,

- a public_html/ tree for posting incidental data and temporary patches,

- a laptop.org mail address, so that my existing mail streams could be
  separated better.

I'm not suggesting that everyone get these things.  But they are useful
ways to improve development.

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Re: B4 motherboard question

2008-07-15 Thread Michael Stone
I really wish that people receiving developer machines posted to devel
or planet.laptop.org on a regular basis and, if possible, introduced
themselves on our Profiles page. Do you think we could try to arrange
this?

Michael
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Re: B4 motherboard question

2008-07-15 Thread Bert Freudenberg

Am 15.07.2008 um 09:11 schrieb Jim Gettys:

> And now we are in production, people should be much less shy about
> asking for developer machines in general; before production started we
> had limited numbers of prototypes, but this is not a concern and we  
> have
> more machines allocated for developers than current demand.
>   - Jim


Maybe the lack of feedback on developer machine requests is giving the  
wrong impression.

- Bert -


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Re: B4 motherboard question

2008-07-15 Thread Jim Gettys
You should definitely get a new system.  We aren't set up to handle
motherboards separately.

And now we are in production, people should be much less shy about
asking for developer machines in general; before production started we
had limited numbers of prototypes, but this is not a concern and we have
more machines allocated for developers than current demand.
   - Jim


On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 10:37 -0400, Guylhem Aznar wrote:
> Hello
> 
> I wouldn't necessarily want another machine - just a motherboard from
> say a machine that has been returned with a broken screen, or
> whatever, would be fine
> 
> A fully working XO  would be best used for someone who hasn't one yet IMHO.
> 
> Anyway, I'll drop a message
> 
> Thanks
> Guylhem
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Re: B4 motherboard question

2008-07-14 Thread Guylhem Aznar
Hello

I wouldn't necessarily want another machine - just a motherboard from
say a machine that has been returned with a broken screen, or
whatever, would be fine

A fully working XO  would be best used for someone who hasn't one yet IMHO.

Anyway, I'll drop a message

Thanks
Guylhem
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Re: B4 motherboard question

2008-07-13 Thread John Watlington

If you received a B4 through the developer's program, you should request
a mass production machine (again) through the developer's program.
Mention that you already have a B4, but intend to work on issues related
to suspend/resume.

Regards,
John

On Jul 13, 2008, at 2:38 PM, Guylhem Aznar wrote:

> Hello
>
> I was wondering if I could return my motherboard to get a current
> "mass-production" one without the documented hardware bugs : I fear I
> may not be able to perform all the fixes required
> (http://wiki.laptop.org/go/B4_Suspend_ECR), while I would need suspend
> support.
>
> I guess the current motherboard will also support Windows XP, which
> would be a good thing.
>
> Alternatively, I am now located in Martinique (the island next to
> Dominica) : if there's anyone from the project in the Caribbean who
> could give a hand with the hardware fix, I could certainly carry my B4
> over there.
>
> Guylhem
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B4 motherboard question

2008-07-13 Thread Guylhem Aznar
Hello

I was wondering if I could return my motherboard to get a current
"mass-production" one without the documented hardware bugs : I fear I
may not be able to perform all the fixes required
(http://wiki.laptop.org/go/B4_Suspend_ECR), while I would need suspend
support.

I guess the current motherboard will also support Windows XP, which
would be a good thing.

Alternatively, I am now located in Martinique (the island next to
Dominica) : if there's anyone from the project in the Caribbean who
could give a hand with the hardware fix, I could certainly carry my B4
over there.

Guylhem
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