Re: Camera, XO 1.5 vs XO 1

2010-04-25 Thread James Cameron
On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 05:43:29PM +0100, Tiago Marques wrote:
 XO 1 uses 8.2.0(767), that's the latest stable right?

Don't think so.  When comparing XO-1 and XO-1.5, the version of XO-1
software I use is build 802, version 8.2.1.

 Ok, will do, thanks. For now it's mostly the darker image that's an
 issue. It's not that it's bad per se, but the XO1 picture is
 definitely great.

Please check for variance in the two cameras you have by comparing the
output of the OpenFirmware test /camera command.

See also
http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9853

You could also put your test results in that ticket.

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Camera, XO 1.5 vs XO 1

2010-04-24 Thread Tiago Marques
Hi all,

Unsure if this was a side effect of cost cutting or improper calibration,
I'm reporting some differences I found between the camera in both models and
hope this information is of some use:

 - XO 1 has slower response time in the video being shown.
 - XO 1 has a much brighter picture, which results in a much clearer one.
Even with good surrounding light, the 1.5 shows a very dark image.
 - XO 1.5 record isn't saving more than 2s of video.

I thought that the camera sensor had been exchanged between revisions but
I've just checked and it's the same. What gives? Software?

Best regards,
Tiago
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Re: Camera, XO 1.5 vs XO 1

2010-04-24 Thread Chris Ball
Hi Tiago,

You don't mention which build you're using, and it's important because
we're still making many changes to the camera setup, so please do that
in future.

- XO 1 has slower response time in the video being shown.

I think this is probably http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/10045.

The 1.5 setup is capable of producing many more fps from the camera
than 1.0, and Record doesn't use a framerate limiter on the preview
window, with the result that you see a very high fps on the 1.5
preview window at the cost of so much CPU use that Record becomes
unresponsive.

Daniel Drake's latest patches to Record add a framerate limiter to
its preview window, which will make 1.5 behave more like 1.0.

- XO 1 has a much brighter picture, which results in a
much clearer one.  Even with good surrounding light, the 1.5
shows a very dark image.

Don't know about this.  We do have some control over brightness/gain
in the kernel driver, I think.

- XO 1.5 record isn't saving more than 2s of video.

http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/10070.  Was fixed back in os119, as far
as we know.

I thought that the camera sensor had been exchanged between
revisions but I've just checked and it's the same. What gives?
Software?

Yes, the sensor's the same, but the hardware and software interfacing
to it is different.

os121 (about to be released) should be able to record video well,
please re-test with that when it's out.

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Re: Camera, XO 1.5 vs XO 1

2010-04-24 Thread Tiago Marques
Hi Chris

On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Chris Ball c...@laptop.org wrote:

 Hi Tiago,

 You don't mention which build you're using, and it's important because
 we're still making many changes to the camera setup, so please do that
 in future.


Sorry about that, it's the latest versions:

XO 1 uses 8.2.0(767), that's the latest stable right?
XO 1.5 10.2.0 build 120.




- XO 1 has slower response time in the video being shown.

 I think this is probably http://dev http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/10045

* ** Blocked By:** *

*Blocking:** *

.laptop.org/ticket/10045 http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/10045.

 The 1.5 setup is capable of producing many more fps from the camera
 than 1.0, and Record doesn't use a framerate limiter on the preview
 window, with the result that you see a very high fps on the 1.5
 preview window at the cost of so much CPU use that Record becomes
 unresponsive.

 Daniel Drake's latest patches to Record add a framerate limiter to
 its preview window, which will make 1.5 behave more like 1.0.


I didn't said it became unresponsive, just that 1.5 was improved(at least
from a user's perspective). The high FPS is great, it's a shame that there
is never enough disk space to make use of it :)



- XO 1 has a much brighter picture, which results in a
much clearer one.  Even with good surrounding light, the 1.5
shows a very dark image.

 Don't know about this.  We do have some control over brightness/gain
 in the kernel driver, I think.

- XO 1.5 record isn't saving more than 2s of video.

 http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/10070.  Was fixed back in os119, as far
 as we know.


As above, tested in build 120 :|



I thought that the camera sensor had been exchanged between
revisions but I've just checked and it's the same. What gives?
Software?

 Yes, the sensor's the same, but the hardware and software interfacing
 to it is different.

 os121 (about to be released) should be able to record video well,
 please re-test with that when it's out.


Ok, will do, thanks. For now it's mostly the darker image that's an issue.
It's not that it's bad per se, but the XO1 picture is definitely great.

Best regards,
Tiago




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