Re: Candidate "paper cut" bugs for a new 8.2.x release?

2009-08-31 Thread Martin Langhoff
2009/8/30 NoiseEHC : > I do not know what was the conclusion about this _completely hypothetical_ > case but does fixing the Geode VGA driver match the "paper cut" criteria? Rough criteria: - Does it affect our primary users? (kids in deployment schools) - Do we have a field-tested patch? - Is

Re: Candidate "paper cut" bugs for a new 8.2.x release?

2009-08-30 Thread Paul Fox
noiseehc wrote: > Hi! > > I do not know what was the conclusion about this _completely > hypothetical_ case but does fixing the Geode VGA driver match the "paper > cut" criteria? probably only if it affects current deployments. but good fixes for the XO-1 are certainly welcome, since they

Re: Candidate "paper cut" bugs for a new 8.2.x release?

2009-08-30 Thread NoiseEHC
Hi! I do not know what was the conclusion about this _completely hypothetical_ case but does fixing the Geode VGA driver match the "paper cut" criteria? Since I am porting (very slowly since 2 months ago I did not know anything at all about the Linux boot process for example) Android to the

Re: [Sugar-devel] Candidate "paper cut" bugs for a new 8.2.x release?

2009-08-13 Thread Richard A. Smith
Martin Langhoff wrote: > No, and that is an explicit goal: keep the changes small and low risk > so that we can do QA focused on the very limited areas of the system > we touch. Just in case you are misunderstanding what we are asking for its at a minimum of changing the 'y' to an 'm' in the ker

Re: [Sugar-devel] Candidate "paper cut" bugs for a new 8.2.x release?

2009-08-13 Thread Richard A. Smith
Martin Langhoff wrote: > Generally agree that it is important... however. > > On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Richard A. Smith wrote: >> You have to QA the whole system regardless of what change you make so really >> it doesn't increase the QA that much anyway. > > No, and that is an explicit g

Re: [Sugar-devel] Candidate "paper cut" bugs for a new 8.2.x release?

2009-08-12 Thread Martin Langhoff
Generally agree that it is important... however. On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Richard A. Smith wrote: > You have to QA the whole system regardless of what change you make so really > it doesn't increase the QA that much anyway. No, and that is an explicit goal: keep the changes small and low

Re: [Sugar-devel] Candidate "paper cut" bugs for a new 8.2.x release?

2009-08-12 Thread Richard A. Smith
Martin Langhoff wrote: > > I understand the reasoning, but qualifying the build with a changed > kernel will kill us in QA across the system. Got to ruminate on that > one a bit... When deployments report back to us "touchpad" problems are among the top 3 items. Usually #2 behind power. Due t

Re: [Sugar-devel] Candidate "paper cut" bugs for a new 8.2.x release?

2009-08-11 Thread Paul Fox
martin wrote: > On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Paul Fox wrote: > > if nothing else, a next release _must_ be built > > with a modular mouse driver... > > Hmmm. The 5th reply makes a beeline to "must rebuild the kernel". Not > quite a record, but pretty good performance I have to say ;-)

Re: [Sugar-devel] Candidate "paper cut" bugs for a new 8.2.x release?

2009-08-11 Thread Paul Fox
daniel wrote: > 2009/8/11 Paul Fox : > > one thing we've recently realized that would be very low risk > > would be to change the "xset" command in /usr/bin/olpc-session > > from "xset 7/4 0" to either "xset 7/6 0" or "xset 7/4 1". > > What effect does this have? see "man xset" as a refere

Re: [Sugar-devel] Candidate "paper cut" bugs for a new 8.2.x release?

2009-08-11 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Paul Fox wrote: > if nothing else, a next release _must_ be built > with a modular mouse driver... Hmmm. The 5th reply makes a beeline to "must rebuild the kernel". Not quite a record, but pretty good performance I have to say ;-) I understand the reasoning, but

Re: [Sugar-devel] Candidate "paper cut" bugs for a new 8.2.x release?

2009-08-11 Thread Daniel Drake
2009/8/11 Paul Fox : > one thing we've recently realized that would be very low risk > would be to change the "xset" command in /usr/bin/olpc-session > from "xset 7/4 0" to either "xset 7/6 0" or "xset 7/4 1". What effect does this have? Daniel ___ Deve

Re: [Sugar-devel] Candidate "paper cut" bugs for a new 8.2.x release?

2009-08-11 Thread Paul Fox
martin wrote: > In the _completely hypothetical_ case that I had some time and chance > to spin a 8.2.x release aimed at fixing the "paper cuts"[1] and > low-risk bugs that hinder XO-1 deployability _today_ in the field - > have *you* got any candidates? Tell me about them :-) well, touchpad i

Re: [Sugar-devel] Candidate "paper cut" bugs for a new 8.2.x release?

2009-08-10 Thread Daniel Drake
2009/8/11 Martin Langhoff : > In the _completely hypothetical_ case that I had some time and chance > to spin a 8.2.x release aimed at fixing the "paper cuts"[1] and > low-risk bugs that hinder XO-1 deployability _today_ in the field - > have *you* got any candidates? Tell me about them :-) I thin

Re: Candidate "paper cut" bugs for a new 8.2.x release?

2009-08-10 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
> chance ... a 8.2.x release aimed at fixing the "paper cuts"[1] and > low-risk bugs that hinder XO-1 deployability _today_ in the field - > have *you* got any candidates? Tell me about them :-) I myself don't really "patch" -- mostly all I do is to add things to make the XO more "usable" (as a L

Candidate "paper cut" bugs for a new 8.2.x release?

2009-08-10 Thread Martin Langhoff
In the _completely hypothetical_ case that I had some time and chance to spin a 8.2.x release aimed at fixing the "paper cuts"[1] and low-risk bugs that hinder XO-1 deployability _today_ in the field - have *you* got any candidates? Tell me about them :-) I am specially hoping to round up bugs tha