Re: Constructionism (was Re: XP on OLPC - a contrarian view)

2008-05-30 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 10:21 AM, Albert Cahalan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 3:47 AM, Edward Cherlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 5:41 PM, Albert Cahalan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 5:38 PM, Edward Cherlin <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: [IAEP] [Its.an.education.project] Constructionism (was Re: XP on OLPC - a contrarian view)

2008-05-24 Thread Dave Crossland
2008/5/23 Eben Eliason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 9:36 AM, Antoine van Gelder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> On 19 May 2008, at 19:21, Albert Cahalan wrote: Are you serious? Are you really a Republican? No Child's Behind Left is the worst disaster in education i

Re: [Its.an.education.project] Constructionism (was Re: XP on OLPC - a contrarian view)

2008-05-23 Thread Joshua N Pritikin
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 11:39:11PM -0400, Albert Cahalan wrote: > Do remember that No Child Left Behind is actually working. I don't pretend to be an expert, but certainly there are people who dispute the effectiveness of NCLB. http://nochildleft.com/

Re: [Its.an.education.project] Constructionism (was Re: XP on OLPC - a contrarian view)

2008-05-23 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 8:10 PM, Alex Belits <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Eben Eliason wrote: >> For what it's worth, I would be careful to portray "the low-achievers" >> and "the brightest" as opposites. As I note below, I frequently find >> that some of the brightest are also some of the low-ac

Re: [Its.an.education.project] Constructionism (was Re: XP on OLPC - a contrarian view)

2008-05-23 Thread Alex Belits
Eben Eliason wrote: > For what it's worth, I would be careful to portray "the low-achievers" > and "the brightest" as opposites. As I note below, I frequently find > that some of the brightest are also some of the low-achievers, due to > certain aspects of the educational system. This doesn't ch

Re: [Its.an.education.project] Constructionism (was Re: XP on OLPC - a contrarian view)

2008-05-23 Thread Eben Eliason
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 9:36 AM, Antoine van Gelder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 19 May 2008, at 19:21, Albert Cahalan wrote: >>> >>> Are you serious? Are you really a Republican? No Child's Behind Left >>> is the worst disaster in education in decades, as John Holt would have >>> been the fir

Re: [Its.an.education.project] Constructionism (was Re: XP on OLPC - a contrarian view)

2008-05-20 Thread Antoine van Gelder
On 19 May 2008, at 19:21, Albert Cahalan wrote: >> Are you serious? Are you really a Republican? No Child's Behind Left >> is the worst disaster in education in decades, as John Holt would >> have >> been the first to point out if he had lived long enough. Who claims >> that NCLB is raising skil

Re: [Its.an.education.project] Constructionism (was Re: XP on OLPC - a contrarian view)

2008-05-20 Thread Alex Belits
Walter Bender wrote: > The week culminated with an open-house where each teacher > presented a project they developed that integrated national curriculum > goals into an XO activity. I think, this illustrated another, probably less fundamental but practically important point -- if a country has n

Re: Constructionism (was Re: XP on OLPC - a contrarian view)

2008-05-19 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 3:47 AM, Edward Cherlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 5:41 PM, Albert Cahalan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 5:38 PM, Edward Cherlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Sorry, people can't learn Constructionism simply by reading. >>

Re: [Its.an.education.project] Constructionism (was Re: XP on OLPC - a contrarian view)

2008-05-19 Thread Walter Bender
I did come to Peru (and plan on returning as well). I did participate in seminars to introduce the Peruvian teachers to constructionism within the context of Sugar and the national curriculum. I did not find these seminars to be instructionist: they were very much hands-on (the very first thing tha

Re: [Its.an.education.project] Constructionism (was Re: XP on OLPC - a contrarian view)

2008-05-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Edward Cherlin wrote: You can't expect every kid to spontaneously generate the sum of human knowledge by playing with plastic blocks. You don't have the slightest idea what Constructionism is, as this demonstrates. Edward: as far as I remenber you told the same some time ago: "do you k

Re: Constructionism (was Re: XP on OLPC - a contrarian view)

2008-05-19 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 5:41 PM, Albert Cahalan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 5:38 PM, Edward Cherlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 11:46 AM, Albert Cahalan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 6:28 AM, Martin Langhoff <[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: Constructionism (was Re: XP on OLPC - a contrarian view)

2008-05-18 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 12:41 PM, Albert Cahalan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 5:38 PM, Edward Cherlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 11:46 AM, Albert Cahalan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 6:28 AM, Martin Langhoff <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: Constructionism (was Re: XP on OLPC - a contrarian view)

2008-05-18 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 5:38 PM, Edward Cherlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 11:46 AM, Albert Cahalan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 6:28 AM, Martin Langhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Stop here, and please _read_ on constructionism. (Hint: most o

Constructionism (was Re: XP on OLPC - a contrarian view)

2008-05-18 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 11:46 AM, Albert Cahalan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 6:28 AM, Martin Langhoff > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 9:34 PM, Albert Cahalan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Constructionism might be a great idea. I have doubts, partic