Re: Documents ???
El Fri, 25-06-2010 a las 20:56 -0500, Mikus Grinbergs escribió: Looking at Journal View as presented by sugar-0.88.1-5.3bernie.fc11, a Documents icon shows up in the lower left (in the View's margin). I am confused by the presence of this new icon. I have NOT explicitly identified any Documents - neither in internal XO storage nor in external XO storage. Yet this new icon appears next to my existing storage device icons for Journal (internal) and SD card (external). What is the purpose of this Documents icon in Journal View footer ? Should it be shown even when the user hasn't set up Documents ? It's an unfinished feature that was planned for F11-0.88: to easily interchange documents with Gnome, the user's Documents directory appears in the journal volumes bar. It should have a folder icon and be on the right of the journal itself. Since we're going to disable Gnome, this feature will probably also go away in a future build. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Documents ???
Looking at Journal View as presented by sugar-0.88.1-5.3bernie.fc11, a Documents icon shows up in the lower left (in the View's margin). It's an unfinished feature that was planned for F11-0.88: to easily interchange documents with Gnome, the user's Documents directory appears in the journal volumes bar. It should have a folder icon and be on the right of the journal itself. [The Documents icon (looking like an USB stick) appeared to the left of the journal itself.] There happen to be curmudgeons like me - who dislike canned facilities pre-built into distributions - we prefer to define our own folder names. The very first thing I do when I install Fedora is to get rid of as many to-me-useless folders in /home as I can. No wonder Journal View stalled for me when I clicked on its Documents icon -- it could not FIND any Documents folder !! Thanks - I appreciate your explanation. mikus ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Documents ???
El Sun, 27-06-2010 a las 00:42 -0500, Mikus Grinbergs escribió: [The Documents icon (looking like an USB stick) appeared to the left of the journal itself.] There happen to be curmudgeons like me - who dislike canned facilities pre-built into distributions - we prefer to define our own folder names. The very first thing I do when I install Fedora is to get rid of as many to-me-useless folders in /home as I can. No wonder Journal View stalled for me when I clicked on its Documents icon -- it could not FIND any Documents folder !! The default directory is determined with xdg-user-dir DOCUMENTS. One could change it by editing ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs . In the beginning we had a control panel applet to configure the directory, but we thought it wasn't a good idea so we removed it. Anyway, we're probably going to remove this feature because we don't have gnome in the first place. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Documents ???
Looking at Journal View as presented by sugar-0.88.1-5.3bernie.fc11, a Documents icon shows up in the lower left (in the View's margin). I am confused by the presence of this new icon. I have NOT explicitly identified any Documents - neither in internal XO storage nor in external XO storage. Yet this new icon appears next to my existing storage device icons for Journal (internal) and SD card (external). What is the purpose of this Documents icon in Journal View footer ? Should it be shown even when the user hasn't set up Documents ? Thanks, mikus ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Re: Importing images in Write documents makes file huge
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 2:03 AM, Philipp Kocher philipp.koc...@gmx.net wrote: Is it possible to make a small and low risk JPEG-patch for abiword 2.6.4 so it could be included in release 8.2.2? Hubert, Phillip, Small update: libabiword for 8.2.2 will be 2.6.5 (to include some Nepali script rendering fixes). Some new deployments may skip 8.2.2 and go for the newer shinier F11-based OS, but large established deployments move a bit slower (and we care a lot about them!). cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Importing images in Write documents makes file huge
On 30.11.2009, at 12:00, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 2:03 AM, Philipp Kocher philipp.koc...@gmx.net wrote: Is it possible to make a small and low risk JPEG-patch for abiword 2.6.4 so it could be included in release 8.2.2? Hubert, Phillip, Small update: libabiword for 8.2.2 will be 2.6.5 (to include some Nepali script rendering fixes). Some new deployments may skip 8.2.2 and go for the newer shinier F11-based OS, but large established deployments move a bit slower (and we care a lot about them!). What's the 8.2.2 schedule? What is changing? - Bert - ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Fwd: Re: Importing images in Write documents makes file huge
Bonjour Hubert I read on planet.abisource.com (June 26, 2009) that you implemented the JPEG support for abiword 2.7.6. This feature would be very useful for OLPC XO laptops, but the newest release (8.2.1, build 802) for XOs includes still abiword 2.6.4. Is it possible to make a small and low risk JPEG-patch for abiword 2.6.4 so it could be included in release 8.2.2? Work for a Fedora 11 based release (8.2.1 and 8.2.2 are based on Fedora 9) is in progress. This release includes abiword 2.8.1, but it won't be stable enough to install it on student XOs soon (I am not aware of a schedule for this release). Thanks, Philipp Original Message Subject: Re: Importing images in Write documents makes file huge Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 15:48:38 +0100 From: Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com To: Philipp Kocher philipp.koc...@gmx.net CC: Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org, devel devel@lists.laptop.org On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Philipp Kocher philipp.koc...@gmx.net wrote: On 11/26/2009 07:06 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 09:32, Philipp Kocherphilipp.koc...@gmx.net wrote: The conversion to PNG was a general Abiword feature, but it got solved last July with Abiword 2.7.6 (see link below). On my XO libabiword-2.6.4-6.olpc3 is installed (build 802). Is it possible to install an libabiword-olpc rpm of version 2.7.6 or newer? http://wiki.laptop.org/go/F11_for_XO-1 What about 8.2.x? Only if you can get a patch (from the abiword developers I guess) that fixes the problem on 2.6.4; and the patch is reasonably small and low risk. As Ben points out, this will imply a flag-day change. For people controlling a whole deployment, this may very well be acceptable... and the 8.2.x I am working on is focussed on deployments. cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Importing images in Write documents makes file huge
On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Philipp Kocher philipp.koc...@gmx.net wrote: On 11/26/2009 07:06 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 09:32, Philipp Kocherphilipp.koc...@gmx.net wrote: The conversion to PNG was a general Abiword feature, but it got solved last July with Abiword 2.7.6 (see link below). On my XO libabiword-2.6.4-6.olpc3 is installed (build 802). Is it possible to install an libabiword-olpc rpm of version 2.7.6 or newer? http://wiki.laptop.org/go/F11_for_XO-1 What about 8.2.x? Only if you can get a patch (from the abiword developers I guess) that fixes the problem on 2.6.4; and the patch is reasonably small and low risk. As Ben points out, this will imply a flag-day change. For people controlling a whole deployment, this may very well be acceptable... and the 8.2.x I am working on is focussed on deployments. cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Importing images in Write documents makes file huge
Hi all,
We would like the students to create simple html-documents with text and
images and upload them to the schoolserver for a simple homepage. The
Write activity (we are using version 60 on build 802) has a feature
Keep as Hypertext (HTML), but when images are inserted into the
document the files get huge (10 times bigger than original image).
If I check the file size in the datastore, an image created with Record
(file size 38kB, mimetype image/jpg) inserted in a html document
containing nothing else than the image, the html file is 554kB (mimetype
text/html).
The image is saved in the html-document with:
img ... src=data:image/png;base64,{image data}
I can do the same thing with Abiword 2.8.1 and the html file is just
52kB, probably because it is using jpg:
img ... src=data:image/jpeg;base64,{image data}
There is an old ticket for that (last modified 2 years ago):
Ticket #1442 non-PNG image support for Abiword
Any suggestions for a workaround? Is there an other activity we could
use to create html pages?
Best regards,
Philipp
PS: other document types created with Write have the same problem:
image/jpg: 38kB (created with Record activity)
application/rtf:821kB (created with Write activity)
text/html: 554kB (created with Write activity)
application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text: 406kB (created with Write
activity, default)
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Re: Importing images in Write documents makes file huge
The conversion to PNG was a general Abiword feature, but it got solved
last July with Abiword 2.7.6 (see link below).
On my XO libabiword-2.6.4-6.olpc3 is installed (build 802).
Is it possible to install an libabiword-olpc rpm of version 2.7.6 or newer?
http://planet.abisource.com/:
July 04, 2009
Marc Maurer: Impressive AbiWord release
We just released AbiWord 2.7.6, which is an awesome release in my opinion!
It for example adds native JPEG support, so we don’t convert every JPEG
internally to PNG anymore. This will be of great benefit on the OLPC
laptop, where kids use built-in camera to produce photos in JPEG format
and add them to their document. This will greatly reduce the filesize of
their document. It will also be a lot less bandwidth intensive when
collaborating on such a document.
On 11/26/2009 03:01 PM, Philipp Kocher wrote:
Hi all,
We would like the students to create simple html-documents with text and
images and upload them to the schoolserver for a simple homepage. The
Write activity (we are using version 60 on build 802) has a feature
Keep as Hypertext (HTML), but when images are inserted into the
document the files get huge (10 times bigger than original image).
If I check the file size in the datastore, an image created with Record
(file size 38kB, mimetype image/jpg) inserted in a html document
containing nothing else than the image, the html file is 554kB (mimetype
text/html).
The image is saved in the html-document with:
img ... src=data:image/png;base64,{image data}
I can do the same thing with Abiword 2.8.1 and the html file is just
52kB, probably because it is using jpg:
img ... src=data:image/jpeg;base64,{image data}
There is an old ticket for that (last modified 2 years ago):
Ticket #1442 non-PNG image support for Abiword
Any suggestions for a workaround? Is there an other activity we could
use to create html pages?
Best regards,
Philipp
PS: other document types created with Write have the same problem:
image/jpg: 38kB (created with Record activity)
application/rtf: 821kB (created with Write activity)
text/html:554kB (created with Write activity)
application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text: 406kB (created with Write
activity, default)
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Re: Importing images in Write documents makes file huge
On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 09:32, Philipp Kocher philipp.koc...@gmx.net wrote:
The conversion to PNG was a general Abiword feature, but it got solved
last July with Abiword 2.7.6 (see link below).
On my XO libabiword-2.6.4-6.olpc3 is installed (build 802).
Is it possible to install an libabiword-olpc rpm of version 2.7.6 or newer?
I guess it depends on how many technical resources you have, but it's
definitely possible. Though maybe the best way forward is helping with
the effort of making F11 work well on the XO-1s.
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/F11_for_XO-1
Regards,
Tomeu
http://planet.abisource.com/:
July 04, 2009
Marc Maurer: Impressive AbiWord release
We just released AbiWord 2.7.6, which is an awesome release in my opinion!
It for example adds native JPEG support, so we don’t convert every JPEG
internally to PNG anymore. This will be of great benefit on the OLPC
laptop, where kids use built-in camera to produce photos in JPEG format
and add them to their document. This will greatly reduce the filesize of
their document. It will also be a lot less bandwidth intensive when
collaborating on such a document.
On 11/26/2009 03:01 PM, Philipp Kocher wrote:
Hi all,
We would like the students to create simple html-documents with text and
images and upload them to the schoolserver for a simple homepage. The
Write activity (we are using version 60 on build 802) has a feature
Keep as Hypertext (HTML), but when images are inserted into the
document the files get huge (10 times bigger than original image).
If I check the file size in the datastore, an image created with Record
(file size 38kB, mimetype image/jpg) inserted in a html document
containing nothing else than the image, the html file is 554kB (mimetype
text/html).
The image is saved in the html-document with:
img ... src=data:image/png;base64,{image data}
I can do the same thing with Abiword 2.8.1 and the html file is just
52kB, probably because it is using jpg:
img ... src=data:image/jpeg;base64,{image data}
There is an old ticket for that (last modified 2 years ago):
Ticket #1442 non-PNG image support for Abiword
Any suggestions for a workaround? Is there an other activity we could
use to create html pages?
Best regards,
Philipp
PS: other document types created with Write have the same problem:
image/jpg: 38kB (created with Record activity)
application/rtf: 821kB (created with Write activity)
text/html: 554kB (created with Write activity)
application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text: 406kB (created with Write
activity, default)
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Re: Importing images in Write documents makes file huge
On 11/26/2009 07:06 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 09:32, Philipp Kocherphilipp.koc...@gmx.net wrote:
The conversion to PNG was a general Abiword feature, but it got solved
last July with Abiword 2.7.6 (see link below).
On my XO libabiword-2.6.4-6.olpc3 is installed (build 802).
Is it possible to install an libabiword-olpc rpm of version 2.7.6 or newer?
I guess it depends on how many technical resources you have, but it's
definitely possible. Though maybe the best way forward is helping with
the effort of making F11 work well on the XO-1s.
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/F11_for_XO-1
What about 8.2.x?
At the moment the write activity is not really responsive when a few
pictures are in the document. I expect that would improve as well.
It looks like abiword 2.8.1 is already part of F11 for XO 1, which
should solve the problem. But I don't expect F11 being installed on the
student XOs very soon, is there an alternative solution like another
activity that can create simple html files with pictures?
Regards,
Tomeu
http://planet.abisource.com/:
July 04, 2009
Marc Maurer: Impressive AbiWord release
We just released AbiWord 2.7.6, which is an awesome release in my opinion!
It for example adds native JPEG support, so we don’t convert every JPEG
internally to PNG anymore. This will be of great benefit on the OLPC
laptop, where kids use built-in camera to produce photos in JPEG format
and add them to their document. This will greatly reduce the filesize of
their document. It will also be a lot less bandwidth intensive when
collaborating on such a document.
On 11/26/2009 03:01 PM, Philipp Kocher wrote:
Hi all,
We would like the students to create simple html-documents with text and
images and upload them to the schoolserver for a simple homepage. The
Write activity (we are using version 60 on build 802) has a feature
Keep as Hypertext (HTML), but when images are inserted into the
document the files get huge (10 times bigger than original image).
If I check the file size in the datastore, an image created with Record
(file size 38kB, mimetype image/jpg) inserted in a html document
containing nothing else than the image, the html file is 554kB (mimetype
text/html).
The image is saved in the html-document with:
img ... src=data:image/png;base64,{image data}
I can do the same thing with Abiword 2.8.1 and the html file is just
52kB, probably because it is using jpg:
img ... src=data:image/jpeg;base64,{image data}
There is an old ticket for that (last modified 2 years ago):
Ticket #1442 non-PNG image support for Abiword
Any suggestions for a workaround? Is there an other activity we could
use to create html pages?
Best regards,
Philipp
PS: other document types created with Write have the same problem:
image/jpg: 38kB (created with Record activity)
application/rtf: 821kB (created with Write activity)
text/html:554kB (created with Write activity)
application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text: 406kB (created with Write
activity, default)
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Re: Importing images in Write documents makes file huge
Philipp Kocher wrote: Is it possible to install an libabiword-olpc rpm of version 2.7.6 or newer? Note that this represents a flag day change. Users with version below and above will not be able to collaborate, at least when trying to share documents containing jpeg images. --Ben signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
