Ideas for testers (what needs testing?)

2008-05-08 Thread Martin Langhoff
This Sunday I will be hosting a small Happy Dev House event in
Wellington (NZ) and an ex-colleague who is a top-notch professional
software tester will be coming around with possibly some more testers.

Are there areas or builds that needs special focus? I have given Shaun
links to the Testing pages in the wiki, and what we have available is

 - 1 B4
 - 1 MP
 - As many qemu VMs as we want ;-)

Should they go through the smoketest on joyride? Or faster? Note that
they are new to the XO+Sugar, though familiar with linux.

For testing on the XOs I need to know what image they'll need to have
on the XOs so I can prepare them beforehand ;-)

(Of course I'll bring an XS with me to the event ;-) but it doesn't
have that much test surface specially for new testers.)

cheers,


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RE: Ideas for testers (what needs testing?)

2008-05-08 Thread Boyce, Shaun (WELLBSD)

This seems like a smart place to start devoting some time. I will have a
look into it tonight... see if I can help with a test plan or something
in that direction.


Shaun




From: Wade Brainerd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 1 May 2008 18:12
To: Martin Langhoff
Cc: Boyce, Shaun (WELLBSD); OLPC Devel
Subject: Re: Ideas for testers (what needs testing?)


On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 2:09 AM, Martin Langhoff
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 5:37 PM, Wade Brainerd
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I would really appreciate testing in Colors! and
Bounce (still waiting for
 #6766 to get them into joyride).  Particularly,
reliable steps to reproduce
 any bugs in Colors! collaboration mode.

 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Colors%21
  http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Bounce


Cool. Any guidance as to what to look for? Can we cc the
devel list about this?



No real test plan guidance has been developed, they are just
activities that I developed on my own without much feedback from the
community.  When I get a feature working I move on to the next one, but
there hasn't been extensive testing on either.

If you do come up with a test plan for these, I would love to
see it get added to their wiki pages so future testers can repeat them.

Thanks!

Wade





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Re: Ideas for testers (what needs testing?)

2008-05-08 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 4:17 AM, Steve Holton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is there a set of requirements against which testers should be testing?

I don't think we have that. We do have some test guides that show some
basic steps that are expected to work. We work to high-level specs.

 It seems a recipe for dumping the designers into the hell of constantly,
 interactively  explaining to the testers what was expected, what wasn't, and
 why.

It's not *that* bad ;-) Explore it, figure it out - after all, that's
what we expect our end users to do! - and of needed, ask the original
designers and developers for some explanation (that can hopefully be
captured in the wiki as documentation).

This approach has worked fantastic for Moodle and other projects. The
alternative is to line up an army of technical writers, and I've only
heard of one around here so far...

cheers,



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Re: Ideas for testers (what needs testing?)

2008-05-08 Thread Steve Holton
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 4:19 PM, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 4:17 AM, Steve Holton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  It seems a recipe for dumping the designers into the hell of constantly,
  interactively  explaining to the testers what was expected, what wasn't,
 and
  why.

 It's not *that* bad ;-) Explore it, figure it out - after all, that's
 what we expect our end users to do! - and of needed, ask the original
 designers and developers for some explanation (that can hopefully be
 captured in the wiki as documentation).

 This approach has worked fantastic for Moodle and other projects. The
 alternative is to line up an army of technical writers, and I've only
 heard of one around here so far...


That seems to be the case.  And it's hard to argue with success.
As long as nobody is going to get upset when I test, then I suppose I'll be
as happy as a clam.

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Re: Ideas for testers (what needs testing?)

2008-05-01 Thread Wade Brainerd
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 2:09 AM, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 5:37 PM, Wade Brainerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I would really appreciate testing in Colors! and Bounce (still waiting
 for
  #6766 to get them into joyride).  Particularly, reliable steps to
 reproduce
  any bugs in Colors! collaboration mode.
 
  http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Colors%21
   http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Bounce

 Cool. Any guidance as to what to look for? Can we cc the devel list about
 this?


No real test plan guidance has been developed, they are just activities that
I developed on my own without much feedback from the community.  When I get
a feature working I move on to the next one, but there hasn't been extensive
testing on either.

If you do come up with a test plan for these, I would love to see it get
added to their wiki pages so future testers can repeat them.

Thanks!

Wade
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Re: Ideas for testers (what needs testing?)

2008-05-01 Thread Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero
Hi all,

In the wiki there are testing guides that could do as reference for Colors
and other activities.

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activity_testing_guide.





2008/5/1 Wade Brainerd [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Actually I should mention that Colors! has a bug list going on its
 Development page:

 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Colors%21/Development

 Some of those may have regressed since they were marked fixed, I feel like
 I have seen the blank toolbar happen recently.

 -Wade

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Ideas for testers (what needs testing?)

2008-04-29 Thread Martin Langhoff
[resend - now via the list properly]

This Sunday I will be hosting a small Happy Dev House event in
Wellington (NZ) and an ex-colleague who is a top-notch professional
software tester will be coming around with possibly some more testers.

Are there areas or builds that needs special focus? I have given Shaun
links to the Testing pages in the wiki, and what we have available is

 - 1 B4
 - 1 MP
 - As many qemu VMs as we want ;-)

Should they go through the smoketest on joyride? Or faster? Note that
they are new to the XO+Sugar, though familiar with linux.

For testing on the XOs I need to know what image they'll need to have
on the XOs so I can prepare them beforehand ;-)

(Of course I'll bring an XS with me to the event ;-) but it doesn't
have that much test surface specially for new testers.)

cheers,


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