Re: Impossible to set date in 11.3.0?

2012-08-28 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: > You are correct, the switch to systemd means we no longer sync from > system clock to hw clock. I spotted that early, and documented it in > the release notes: > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/12.1.0#Base_system I'll also note tha

Re: Impossible to set date in 11.3.0?

2012-08-28 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Hal Murray wrote: > qu...@laptop.org said: >> "date" followed by a successful normal shutdown should work, because a >> normal shutdown runs hwclock ... but "hwclock --systohc" is handy in case >> you aren't sure that a normal shutdown will happen next. > > It used

Re: Impossible to set date in 11.3.0?

2012-08-28 Thread C. Scott Ananian
It seems like all that is necessary is to add a test for a secured laptop to allow this patch to go upstream, right? (This approach looks very similar to what I did in OLPC build 603 or so.) --scott On Aug 25, 2012 7:08 PM, "Jerry Vonau" wrote: > On Sat, 2012-08-25 at 18:25 -0400, Walter Bender

Re: Impossible to set date in 11.3.0?

2012-08-27 Thread Hal Murray
qu...@laptop.org said: > "date" followed by a successful normal shutdown should work, because a > normal shutdown runs hwclock ... but "hwclock --systohc" is handy in case > you aren't sure that a normal shutdown will happen next. It used to do that on shutdown as part of /etc/rc.d/init.d/halt a

Re: Impossible to set date in 11.3.0?

2012-08-27 Thread Kevin Gordon
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 4:43 AM, James Cameron wrote: > On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 01:07:35PM -0400, Samuel Greenfeld wrote: > > To the best of my knowledge this is an intentional omission for > > antitheft reasons. Instructions on how to set the clock from OFW or > > the command line are at http:/

Re: Impossible to set date in 11.3.0?

2012-08-27 Thread James Cameron
On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 01:07:35PM -0400, Samuel Greenfeld wrote: > To the best of my knowledge this is an intentional omission for > antitheft reasons. Instructions on how to set the clock from OFW or > the command line are at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Fix_Clock . I think the task of setting the

Re: Re: Impossible to set date in 11.3.0?

2012-08-25 Thread forster
> On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 7:08 PM, Jerry Vonau wrote: > > On Sat, 2012-08-25 at 18:25 -0400, Walter Bender wrote: > >> File a ticket and someone may jump in to tackle it. > >> > >> -walter > >> > > > > see http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/11004 > > Thx. That covers part of the issue, but not the Sug

Re: Impossible to set date in 11.3.0?

2012-08-25 Thread Walter Bender
On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 7:08 PM, Jerry Vonau wrote: > On Sat, 2012-08-25 at 18:25 -0400, Walter Bender wrote: >> File a ticket and someone may jump in to tackle it. >> >> -walter >> > > see http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/11004 Thx. That covers part of the issue, but not the Sugar control panel par

Re: Impossible to set date in 11.3.0?

2012-08-25 Thread Jerry Vonau
On Sat, 2012-08-25 at 18:25 -0400, Walter Bender wrote: > File a ticket and someone may jump in to tackle it. > > -walter > see http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/11004 > On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Martin Langhoff > wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 2:26 PM, C. Scott Ananian wrote: > >> Sur

Re: Impossible to set date in 11.3.0?

2012-08-25 Thread Walter Bender
File a ticket and someone may jump in to tackle it. -walter On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 2:26 PM, C. Scott Ananian wrote: >> Surely we can distinguish secured from unsecured laptops and allow >> unsecured laptops to set the date? > > Sure. No

Re: Impossible to set date in 11.3.0?

2012-08-25 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 2:26 PM, C. Scott Ananian wrote: > Surely we can distinguish secured from unsecured laptops and allow > unsecured laptops to set the date? Sure. Nobody's done the UI work for that, Sugar-side. - In all builds, hwclock is available from cli - On 11.3.x and earler builds

Re: Impossible to set date in 11.3.0?

2012-08-25 Thread C. Scott Ananian
Surely we can distinguish secured from unsecured laptops and allow unsecured laptops to set the date? I know I implemented this once... --scott -- ( http://cscott.net ) ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listi

Re: Impossible to set date in 11.3.0?

2012-08-25 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
To the best of my knowledge this is an intentional omission for antitheft reasons. Instructions on how to set the clock from OFW or the command line are at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Fix_Clock . If using the "date" command is not sufficient to permanently store the change, "hwclock --systohc" or s

Re: Impossible to set date in 11.3.0?

2012-08-25 Thread Sebastian Silva
Hi Scott, In the field, this has always been the case. Here's some instructions for changing date / time from the terminal, as immortalized in the official manual of the ministry of education of Peru: http://www.slideshare.net/zumaetajorge/manual-computadoras-x-o (go to page 157). I guess there's n

Impossible to set date in 11.3.0?

2012-08-25 Thread C. Scott Ananian
A friend has 11.3.0 installed on his son's XO 1.5. The kid complained that the date was wrong on his XO, and he couldn't figure out how to set it. Indeed, the "Time and Date" control panel only has time zone selection, and no sort of network time program seems to be included in the build. Was th