Re: Initial tests of Activities, as shipped, on a New XO-1.5
On 03/02/2011 08:34 AM, Thomas C Gilliard wrote: Attached is an OpenOffice.org Calc spreadsheet of my initial testing of activities on a new XO-1.5 Did you test while on battery or on external power? If you were on battery and power management was enabled the the log files in your power-logs directory would be useful to me. Thats pretty much a blanket statement for everyone doing any sort of testing for say .5h or more. Run on battery enable power management and send me a copy of the logs in power-logs dir when you are done. Even better if you _use_ the XO for extended periods on battery and have power management enabled then I'm also interested in your power-logs. Both XO-1 and XO 1.5 Thanks. -- Richard A. Smith rich...@laptop.org One Laptop per Child ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Testing] Initial tests of Activities, as shipped, on a New XO-1.5
On 03/02/2011 08:34 AM, Thomas C Gilliard wrote: The Control Panel/Software Updates worked and updated 3 activities. So the activities weren't as shipped, right? Note: I tested all of the activities listed in sequence in the F3 list view. This almost borked the XO-1.5. the memory became almost full and responses became very lethargic. I had to go to the journal and delete each entry, one at a time. A very slow process. Perhaps you left the activities open, rather than closing them? I don't think having journal entries should slow down Sugar that much. -- Luke Faraone;; Debian Ubuntu Developer; Sugar Labs, Systems lfaraone on irc.[freenode,oftc].net -- http://luke.faraone.cc PGP fprint: 5189 2A7D 16D0 49BB 046B DC77 9732 5DD8 F9FD D506 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Testing] Initial tests of Activities, as shipped, on a New XO-1.5
Luke Faraone wrote: On 03/02/2011 08:34 AM, Thomas C Gilliard wrote: The Control Panel/Software Updates worked and updated 3 activities. So the activities weren't as shipped, right? This was the original set of activities. There is a separate column on the spreadsheet for the updates (3) which also worked. I wanted a benchmark of what is shipped stock. The XO-1.5 arrived yesterday Note: I tested all of the activities listed in sequence in the F3 list view. This almost borked the XO-1.5. the memory became almost full and responses became very lethargic. I had to go to the journal and delete each entry, one at a time. A very slow process. Perhaps you left the activities open, rather than closing them? I don't think having journal entries should slow down Sugar that much. No. I closed each one after testing. switched to f3 list view and started the next one. Did this all the way down list. Then did update from control panel and tested them. The Download of Darwin's Origin of the species.pdf and one picture, video (10sec) and sound recording from record may have also added to the load in the journal. But this is not unusual usage for someone exploring a new Computer. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Initial tests of Activities, as shipped, on a New XO-1.5
Hi Thomas, depending on various logistics, the laptop you received may havebeen manufactured a while ago (and have an old OS image on it). So I just received it is a good picture of the emotional state, but not of the software state... you gotta tell us what OS build is in it :-) cheers, m On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Thomas C Gilliard satel...@bendbroadband.com wrote: Attached is an OpenOffice.org Calc spreadsheet of my initial testing of activities on a new XO-1.5 All activities started and functioned well. The Only exception being Maze where I could not get the ball to move. (May be my lack of understanding of the application) I used a wireless connection to an apple airport extreme (type 2) ( Alphabetical Wep connection) The Control Panel/Software Updates worked and updated 3 activities. Jabber.sugarlabs.org was not responding so I could not test these functions Note: I tested all of the activities listed in sequence in the F3 list view. This almost borked the XO-1.5. the memory became almost full and responses became very lethargic. I had to go to the journal and delete each entry, one at a time. A very slow process. There needs to be a way to select by group checking the stars in the journal to allow group deletions from the journal. There was also no warning of the impending lockup. I believe some of these issues have been addressed in the software I will be testing on this Loaned XO-1.5 [1] No collaboration testing has been done in this initial set of tests. I plan to test against my XO-1 (G1G1) currently running os439dg and My Collection of Netbooks running sugar native and as Virtual Box Appliances. Tom Gilliard satellit on freenode IRC Bend Oregon [1] http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects/Dextrose2_testing_with_a_loaned_XO-1.5 ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Initial tests of Activities, as shipped, on a New XO-1.5
On 2 Mar 2011, at 13:34, Thomas C Gilliard satel...@bendbroadband.com wrote: Attached is an OpenOffice.org Calc spreadsheet of my initial testing of activities on a new XO-1.5 All activities started and functioned well. The Only exception being Maze where I could not get the ball to move. (May be my lack of understanding of the application) I used a wireless connection to an apple airport extreme (type 2) ( Alphabetical Wep connection) The Control Panel/Software Updates worked and updated 3 activities. Jabber.sugarlabs.org was not responding so I could not test these functions Note: I tested all of the activities listed in sequence in the F3 list view. This almost borked the XO-1.5. the memory became almost full and responses became very lethargic. I had to go to the journal and delete each entry, one at a time. Could you confirm low storage space was the issue? Perhaps some activity is being mischievous on exit and not freeing up resources? It sounds more like low ram, or a hung process eating CPU. If some activity is indeed creating massive Journal entries, eating large chunks storage space it should be reported as a bug otherwise it'll likely trigger many maintenance issues. One other possibility is a ram leak in Sugar, we did have one just prior to a release a year or so back, but that was discovered and fixed just in time for the GM (each activity launch consumed some memory that it didn't release). You could test for this by repeatedly resuming and stopping a simple Activity (I usually used Moon), while keeping an eye on top running in Terminal. A very slow process. There needs to be a way to select by group checking the stars in the journal to allow group deletions from the journal. The stars are for marking favourites (currently used for quick filtering from the Journal toolbar). There are a number of design mockup for a Journal with multi select support, using a column of check boxes and showing a new group operation toolbar seems to have most support last time it was discussed. It's a fairly invasive chunk of Journal work and last time this came up there were not enough resources to tackle it. Regards, --Gary There was also no warning of the impending lockup. I believe some of these issues have been addressed in the software I will be testing on this Loaned XO-1.5 [1] No collaboration testing has been done in this initial set of tests. I plan to test against my XO-1 (G1G1) currently running os439dg and My Collection of Netbooks running sugar native and as Virtual Box Appliances. Tom Gilliard satellit on freenode IRC Bend Oregon [1] http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects/Dextrose2_testing_with_a_loaned_XO-1.5 XO-1.5-Activity Tests.ods ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Initial tests of Activities, as shipped, on a New XO-1.5
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 2:50 PM, Gary Martin garycmar...@googlemail.com wrote: One other possibility is a ram leak in Sugar, We believe there is one in current Sugar (0.84~0.92), likely related to neighbourhood view. http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/10386 Very slow leak -- but there. If you boot an XO-1 in a location where it can see many APs, and leave it overnight, the system is unusably slow, OOM kills activities, etc. Present on 1.5 but takes longer to be end-user-visible... cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Initial tests of Activities, as shipped, on a New XO-1.5
H Tom. On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Thomas C Gilliard satel...@bendbroadband.com wrote: Attached is an OpenOffice.org Calc spreadsheet of my initial testing of activities on a new XO-1.5 All activities started and functioned well. The Only exception being Maze where I could not get the ball to move. (May be my lack of understanding of the application) Regarding Maze what version are you testing? ..the ball should move with the arrow keys. I used a wireless connection to an apple airport extreme (type 2) ( Alphabetical Wep connection) The Control Panel/Software Updates worked and updated 3 activities. Jabber.sugarlabs.org was not responding so I could not test these functions Note: I tested all of the activities listed in sequence in the F3 list view. This almost borked the XO-1.5. the memory became almost full and responses became very lethargic. I had to go to the journal and delete each entry, one at a time. A very slow process. There needs to be a way to select by group checking the stars in the journal to allow group deletions from the journal. There was also no warning of the impending lockup. I believe some of these issues have been addressed in the software I will be testing on this Loaned XO-1.5 [1] No collaboration testing has been done in this initial set of tests. I plan to test against my XO-1 (G1G1) currently running os439dg and My Collection of Netbooks running sugar native and as Virtual Box Appliances. Tom Gilliard satellit on freenode IRC Bend Oregon [1] http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects/Dextrose2_testing_with_a_loaned_XO-1.5 ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Initial tests of Activities, as shipped, on a New XO-1.5
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Rafael Ortiz raf...@activitycentral.comwrote: H Tom. On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Thomas C Gilliard satel...@bendbroadband.com wrote: Attached is an OpenOffice.org Calc spreadsheet of my initial testing of activities on a new XO-1.5 All activities started and functioned well. The Only exception being Maze where I could not get the ball to move. (May be my lack of understanding of the application) Regarding Maze what version are you testing? ..the ball should move with the arrow keys. Ah ok..I see it in the .calc. :P. please Test with latest version (8) I used a wireless connection to an apple airport extreme (type 2) ( Alphabetical Wep connection) The Control Panel/Software Updates worked and updated 3 activities. Jabber.sugarlabs.org was not responding so I could not test these functions Note: I tested all of the activities listed in sequence in the F3 list view. This almost borked the XO-1.5. the memory became almost full and responses became very lethargic. I had to go to the journal and delete each entry, one at a time. A very slow process. There needs to be a way to select by group checking the stars in the journal to allow group deletions from the journal. There was also no warning of the impending lockup. I believe some of these issues have been addressed in the software I will be testing on this Loaned XO-1.5 [1] No collaboration testing has been done in this initial set of tests. I plan to test against my XO-1 (G1G1) currently running os439dg and My Collection of Netbooks running sugar native and as Virtual Box Appliances. Tom Gilliard satellit on freenode IRC Bend Oregon [1] http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects/Dextrose2_testing_with_a_loaned_XO-1.5 ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Initial tests of Activities, as shipped, on a New XO-1.5
Martin Langhoff wrote: Hi Thomas, depending on various logistics, the laptop you received may havebeen manufactured a while ago (and have an old OS image on it). So I just received it is a good picture of the emotional state, but not of the software state... you gotta tell us what OS build is in it :-) It is on the attached .ods spreadsheet : ) Build 852 Firmware Q3A58 Sugar 0.84.16 Wireless;9.70.7p0 Cheers cheers, m On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Thomas C Gilliard satel...@bendbroadband.com wrote: Attached is an OpenOffice.org Calc spreadsheet of my initial testing of activities on a new XO-1.5 All activities started and functioned well. The Only exception being Maze where I could not get the ball to move. (May be my lack of understanding of the application) I used a wireless connection to an apple airport extreme (type 2) ( Alphabetical Wep connection) The Control Panel/Software Updates worked and updated 3 activities. Jabber.sugarlabs.org was not responding so I could not test these functions Note: I tested all of the activities listed in sequence in the F3 list view. This almost borked the XO-1.5. the memory became almost full and responses became very lethargic. I had to go to the journal and delete each entry, one at a time. A very slow process. There needs to be a way to select by group checking the stars in the journal to allow group deletions from the journal. There was also no warning of the impending lockup. I believe some of these issues have been addressed in the software I will be testing on this Loaned XO-1.5 [1] No collaboration testing has been done in this initial set of tests. I plan to test against my XO-1 (G1G1) currently running os439dg and My Collection of Netbooks running sugar native and as Virtual Box Appliances. Tom Gilliard satellit on freenode IRC Bend Oregon [1] http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects/Dextrose2_testing_with_a_loaned_XO-1.5 ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
