Re: Why not use swfdec-mozilla? (was Re: Installing Flash on the OLPC)
>> I'm not sure if it was considered, but as the maintainer of swfdec in >> Fedora I can state that swfdec is very cpu-intensive, and I have my >> doubts whether the performance on the XO would be comparable to gnash's, >> though it might be worth investigating. > > That has been my experience too, but I always thought that the > CPU-intensive stuff was only for complex Flash-9 things, and because > my ATI open source drivers sucked ;p I don't believe its a video driver issue as I've seen it on both nvidia and intel using the default open source drivers included in Fedora. Peter ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Why not use swfdec-mozilla? (was Re: Installing Flash on the OLPC)
On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 9:14 PM, Brian Pepple wrote: > Quick clarification. We discussed making swfdec installed by default > during the development of Fedora 9, but decided against doing so since > we felt it wasn't quite ready for that. > Ah, thanks for the clarification, I don't run Fedora so I wouldn't know :) > I'm not sure if it was considered, but as the maintainer of swfdec in > Fedora I can state that swfdec is very cpu-intensive, and I have my > doubts whether the performance on the XO would be comparable to gnash's, > though it might be worth investigating. That has been my experience too, but I always thought that the CPU-intensive stuff was only for complex Flash-9 things, and because my ATI open source drivers sucked ;p I guess I should compare gnash/swfdec/adobe flash performance-wise too. -- ~Nirbheek Chauhan ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Why not use swfdec-mozilla? (was Re: Installing Flash on the OLPC)
>> swfdec{,-mozilla} use gstreamer, are LGPLed, and support most of the
>> Flash 9 features whereas gnash supports only a few of the Flash 9
>> features. swfdec is also the default Flash player on Fedora, and is
>> the preferred flash player on Ubuntu.
>
> Quick clarification. We discussed making swfdec installed by default
> during the development of Fedora 9, but decided against doing so since
> we felt it wasn't quite ready for that.
>
>> Were there some specific problems with using swfdec? Or was it not
>> under consideration due to some factors?
>
> I'm not sure if it was considered, but as the maintainer of swfdec in
> Fedora I can state that swfdec is very cpu-intensive, and I have my
> doubts whether the performance on the XO would be comparable to gnash's,
> though it might be worth investigating.
I've found it very cpu intensive on Fedora 9 and 10 with a penryn dual
core processor. It basically pins one of the cores to 100% CPU but if
I download the video by saving it from the properties box within the
plugin I don't see that issue using the swfdec-gnome player so there's
probably some low hanging fruit within the actual plugin that might be
able to improve the problem easily for someone that knows where to
look.
Peter
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Re: Why not use swfdec-mozilla? (was Re: Installing Flash on the OLPC)
On Thu, 2009-01-01 at 14:16 +0530, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote:
> swfdec{,-mozilla} use gstreamer, are LGPLed, and support most of the
> Flash 9 features whereas gnash supports only a few of the Flash 9
> features. swfdec is also the default Flash player on Fedora, and is
> the preferred flash player on Ubuntu.
Quick clarification. We discussed making swfdec installed by default
during the development of Fedora 9, but decided against doing so since
we felt it wasn't quite ready for that.
> Were there some specific problems with using swfdec? Or was it not
> under consideration due to some factors?
I'm not sure if it was considered, but as the maintainer of swfdec in
Fedora I can state that swfdec is very cpu-intensive, and I have my
doubts whether the performance on the XO would be comparable to gnash's,
though it might be worth investigating.
Later,
/B
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Why not use swfdec-mozilla? (was Re: Installing Flash on the OLPC)
Hello everyone,
(top-posting due to tangent nature of discussion)
Just a thought here, in my experience, swfdec[1] works far better than
gnash for flash websites; why not use that? There's a Firefox/Gecko
plugin called swfdec-mozilla which works beautifully.
swfdec{,-mozilla} use gstreamer, are LGPLed, and support most of the
Flash 9 features whereas gnash supports only a few of the Flash 9
features. swfdec is also the default Flash player on Fedora, and is
the preferred flash player on Ubuntu.
Were there some specific problems with using swfdec? Or was it not
under consideration due to some factors?
On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 5:11 AM, S Page wrote:
> Dear genesee, Carlos Nazareno, Everybody,
>
> Many more people are going to read
> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Adobe_Flash page than follow this mailing
> list. Your effect on XO users by only answering problems here is
> limited, you're just making the smart smarter still.
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Re: Installing Flash on the OLPC
Dear =S Page, As the social analog of town drunk on this list, I am flattered as hell to be lumped in with the smart set! ¡Gracias! genesee S Page-2 wrote: > > you're just making the smart smarter still. > -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Installing-Flash-on-the-OLPC-tp2088845p2098061.html Sent from the Software development mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Installing Flash on the OLPC
Dear genesee, Carlos Nazareno, Everybody, Many more people are going to read http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Adobe_Flash page than follow this mailing list. Your effect on XO users by only answering problems here is limited, you're just making the smart smarter still. Just in time for New Year's resolutions: edit the wiki page first. Anyway, why does this wiki page tell you to enter sudo su - when every other page I've seen says su - (or su -l) ? `sudo su -` seems redundant. Cheers, -- =S Page ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Installing Flash on the OLPC
Back in build 656 AF9 did battle with gnash. yum remove gnash did the trick in Terminal. Now with build 767 or 790 AF10 and gnash have been quite civil, none of those stacked duplicate screens or the like. Of course you do, Scott! Some of your best work yet. Very clear and easy to follow. Still, I'm sticking with Browse until Firefox is more Sugar friendly...unless Browse becomes more Firefox like? "Mozilla nature is Buddha nature"-graffitti in the bathroom at work. C. Scott Ananian-3 wrote: > > I recommend using Firefox and following the instructions at > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Firefox, for what it's worth. > --scott > > -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Installing-Flash-on-the-OLPC-tp2088845p2091001.html Sent from the Software development mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Installing Flash on the OLPC
2008/12/29 shivaprasad javali : > Hi, > I am trying to install Adobe Flash Player on my OLPC. I followed the > instructions on this page http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Adobe_Flash#Installation > to install the flash player. According to it, I have to remove the GNASH > plugin which comes with the OLPC before I install Flash. I recommend using Firefox and following the instructions at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Firefox, for what it's worth. --scott -- ( http://cscott.net/ ) ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Installing Flash on the OLPC
Hi Shivaprasad. You don't have to uninstall GNASH. Adobe Flash 10 and GNASH should co-exist with the latest OLPC build, with the Adobe Flash plugin taking over for the browse activity, and GNASH launchable outside the browser in stand-alone mode. Regards, -Naz > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 19:09:01 +0530 > From: "shivaprasad javali" > Subject: Installing Flash on the OLPC > To: "OLPC Devel" > Message-ID: ><116515210812290539u2915289bx5768336a4abd...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi, > I am trying to install Adobe Flash Player on my OLPC. I followed the > instructions on this page > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Adobe_Flash#Installationto install the flash > player. According to it, I have to remove the GNASH > plugin which comes with the OLPC before I install Flash. > > I want to know whether this is necessary. Can I install Flash player > without uninstalling GNASH and which one will be used by the Browser and > other activities on the OLPC if I have both of them on the OLPC. > > Thanks > jbsp72 > -- Carlos Nazareno http://www.object404.com -- interactive media specialist zen graffiti studios http://www.zengraffiti.com -- Philippine Flash ActionScripters http://www.phlashers.com ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Installing Flash on the OLPC
Hi, I am trying to install Adobe Flash Player on my OLPC. I followed the instructions on this page http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Adobe_Flash#Installationto install the flash player. According to it, I have to remove the GNASH plugin which comes with the OLPC before I install Flash. I want to know whether this is necessary. Can I install Flash player without uninstalling GNASH and which one will be used by the Browser and other activities on the OLPC if I have both of them on the OLPC. Thanks jbsp72 ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
