Re: MicroSD Card performance variance on XO-1.5

2010-08-18 Thread John Watlington
Buy a C6 card and test it out! Applications load faster, boot time is reduced, any file I/O completes faster, and your pictures are more colorful! (Just kidding about the last one.) At the same time, outside of recording higher resolution video a laptop with a C2 card is fully functional. Ch

Re: MicroSD Card performance variance on XO-1.5

2010-08-18 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
I am trying to determine whether it is worth us spending this additional $2-3USD. Has anyone tested what the practical difference is when using a C6 card over a C2? Being able to record at high-res is a good start. What about general speed and latency for normal use? I took a look at the SD and U

Re: MicroSD Card performance variance on XO-1.5

2010-08-07 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 18:11, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > [cc += sugar-devel, tch] > > El Sat, 07-08-2010 a las 11:27 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso escribió: > >> Btw, have read that some notifications about available memory have >> landed in cgroups in recent kernels. The Sugar shell could listen to >> those

Re: MicroSD Card performance variance on XO-1.5

2010-08-07 Thread Bernie Innocenti
[cc += sugar-devel, tch] El Sat, 07-08-2010 a las 11:27 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso escribió: > Btw, have read that some notifications about available memory have > landed in cgroups in recent kernels. The Sugar shell could listen to > those and give a chance to background activities to save their state

Re: MicroSD Card performance variance on XO-1.5

2010-08-07 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 02:52, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > El Fri, 06-08-2010 a las 18:50 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso escribió: >> > I also think our vm.dirty_* settings are wrong and likely causing our >> > current fill-buffer-and-stutter behaviour. We are using the defaults >> > and those are for spinning

Re: MicroSD Card performance variance on XO-1.5

2010-08-06 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Fri, 06-08-2010 a las 18:50 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso escribió: > > I also think our vm.dirty_* settings are wrong and likely causing our > > current fill-buffer-and-stutter behaviour. We are using the defaults > > and those are for spinning harddrives, with a significant cost to > > spinning up the d

Re: MicroSD Card performance variance on XO-1.5

2010-08-06 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 18:43, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Richard A. Smith wrote: >> Whats the qualifications on that?  I assume its raw RGB video? > > No, it's compressed vid + uncompressed audio to be stitched later. > > I have a confession to make: Many years ago

Re: MicroSD Card performance variance on XO-1.5

2010-08-06 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Richard A. Smith wrote: > Whats the qualifications on that?  I assume its raw RGB video? No, it's compressed vid + uncompressed audio to be stitched later. I have a confession to make: Many years ago I worked in video mixing with mid-range gear (avid and media100

Re: MicroSD Card performance variance on XO-1.5

2010-08-06 Thread Richard A. Smith
On 08/05/2010 07:55 PM, John Watlington wrote: > BTW, the REAL definition of C2 versus C6 is the resolution > of video that can be streamed onto the card. So our higher > resolution video encoding problems using C2 cards shouldn't > be surprising... Whats the qualifications on that? I assume i

Re: MicroSD Card performance variance on XO-1.5

2010-08-05 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
> we definitely need to understand what SD card is behind each "works" > or "doesn't" report re Record and other write-intensive tasks. Results from motherboard-unmodified B2 XO-1.5 (SHC9370111D): [I bought these SD cards myself; both are 8G, labeled class 6] int:0 Mfg 0x1b OEM 0x534d Micro

Re: MicroSD Card performance variance on XO-1.5

2010-08-05 Thread James Cameron
On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 07:55:11PM -0400, John Watlington wrote: > BTW, the REAL definition of C2 versus C6 is the resolution > of video that can be streamed onto the card. So our higher > resolution video encoding problems using C2 cards shouldn't > be surprising... Agreed, it may have some bea

Re: MicroSD Card performance variance on XO-1.5

2010-08-05 Thread John Watlington
Early prototypes are built using a wide range of SD cards: I believe we used at least six models in B/C test machines. While individual developers usually only have one or two, we do make sure that all SKUs are distributed to some software developers and testers. Both Quanta and the hardware tea

Re: MicroSD Card performance variance on XO-1.5

2010-08-05 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, > This probably explains the scattered results of testing Record > audio/video sync -- with lots of 'works for me' vs "definitely > doesn't work". The slower SD cards are significantly slower. It did explain some of the first Record problems, but then we switched to recording into /t

MicroSD Card performance variance on XO-1.5

2010-08-05 Thread Martin Langhoff
We recently saw that (at least some) XO-1.5 developer machines (C1, "ramp" units, etc) have SD cards that are significantly faster than what is being shipped to end users. This was a surprise to me (and probably to a few more of us) -- we assumed that most dev machines had a similarly spec'ed SD c