Re: Monday Ship Mtg update message

2007-10-26 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Oct 25, 2007, at 16:04 , Kim Quirk wrote:

 For individual activities we will always want people to be able to  
 download from a website pretty much at any time, so further  
 development and features to activities, should continue to be  
 planned and released outside of the olpc schedule.

So you mean a downloaded activity in ~/Activities should take  
precedence over the default one in /usr/share/activities? Has this  
been tested?

Also, does installing updated rpms require a developer key?

- Bert -

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Re: [sugar] Monday Ship Mtg update message

2007-10-26 Thread Alexander M. Latham
--- Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:
  For individual activities we will always want people to be able to
  download from a website pretty much at any time, so further
  development and features to activities, should continue to be
  planned and released outside of the olpc schedule.

 So you mean a downloaded activity in ~/Activities should take
 precedence over the default one in /usr/share/activities? Has this
 been tested?

I don't think that works currently. A ticket would be good, I think
it's something we really need to fix for 1.0.

Marco
--- end of quote ---

I believe ticket number 4038 applies to this.

Basically, updating activities doesn't work right now, and how it should be 
handled needs to be decided upon.
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Re: Monday Ship Mtg update message

2007-10-25 Thread Yoshiki Ohshima
  Hi, Kim,

  I waited until somebody else asks this, but seems that I need to
ask^^;

  How serious is the next deadline?

  While Etoys did create a new branch after Trial-3 deadline and
development is going into the branch, not all our team members are
comfortable with the tools enough to follow the joyride hourly builds
and test our latest stuff on the actual B4 (and some of our new stuff
is not in joyride yet for some reason).  And for many developers with
B4s, they probably install new build now and then, or stick to the
stable builds and try other people's stuff now and then.  And as I
gather, there are reallly big changes underway.

  Now, even if the shipment of Trial-3 happens (it has not happened
yet, right?) before the next code freeze date, the new code in the
branch (not just Etoys' but everything else has similar issues I
suppose) will not be tested well by many people, even ourselves, on
B4.  In this circumstance, how should we proceed?  Should we proceed
to push the changes to branch?  Or is it a bad idea and it should be
deferred?

  Thanks!

-- Yoshiki

At Mon, 22 Oct 2007 10:43:46 -0400,
Kim Quirk wrote:
 
 Schedules:
 
 This is the last week of changes to the FRS, or Frist Deployment, code base.
 
 There are 70+ blocking bugs and over 230 high priority bugs. These should be 
 the highest priority for most people who
 are helping out in both development and test. After this week, we will hand 
 pick the bug fixes that will go into the
 build; and start shutting down the code churn.
 
 Please look through your bug list, including any other components that might 
 be related to your bug list (sometimes they
 get put under the wrong component); and figure out what you believe to be the 
 First Deployment show stoppers. Look at
 bugs that are assigned to the FRS milestone as well as those that have not 
 been assigned or those that are untriaged.
 
 This is the code that our first deployment children in Uruguay will 
 experience as well as those who are donating to the
 G1G1 program -- so we'd like to present the best user experience as possible.
 
 Meetings this week (please send me email if you need a call in number and 
 don't have it):
 
 Monday 1pm EDT: Test meeting - where are we on the test sprint objectives; 
 highest priority testing for this week
 Tuesday 12:00 (noon, EDT): Journal/datastore update, saving to the school 
 server
 Tuesday 12:30 EDT: Tubes, presence, new mesh protocol, jabber servers
 Wednesday 11:30 EDT: Sugar UI (This might not be the correct time...Christian 
 or Eben will send out time)
 Wednesday 4:00 pm EDT: Security update (NOTE the change of day)
 
 We may need a meeting on connectivity issues (to continue from where we left 
 off with Marvell and Cozybits last week)
 We may need a meeting dedicated to school server integration
 
 We are coming down to the last few weeks. Thanks for everyone's focus and 
 dedication to these difficult details.
 
 - Kim
 
 
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Re: Monday Ship Mtg update message

2007-10-25 Thread Kim Quirk
Hi Yoshiki,
The reason this has seemed fuzzy for a while is because the issues with the
relatively new G1G1 program has brought up discussions about dates and how
they might change.

I think after today's discussion it has been finalized and unchanged from
the First Deployment dates that have been in the roadmap for a few months
now. https://dev.laptop.org/roadmap

November 2, code freeze
November 16, drop to quanta

For individual activities we will always want people to be able to download
from a website pretty much at any time, so further development and features
to activities, should continue to be planned and released outside of the
olpc schedule. We will stop taking bits for activities that are shipping on
the laptop after November 2 (unless you make arrangements with Jim).

Hope that helps.
Kim


On 10/25/07, Yoshiki Ohshima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Hi, Kim,

   I waited until somebody else asks this, but seems that I need to
 ask^^;

   How serious is the next deadline?

   While Etoys did create a new branch after Trial-3 deadline and
 development is going into the branch, not all our team members are
 comfortable with the tools enough to follow the joyride hourly builds
 and test our latest stuff on the actual B4 (and some of our new stuff
 is not in joyride yet for some reason).  And for many developers with
 B4s, they probably install new build now and then, or stick to the
 stable builds and try other people's stuff now and then.  And as I
 gather, there are reallly big changes underway.

   Now, even if the shipment of Trial-3 happens (it has not happened
 yet, right?) before the next code freeze date, the new code in the
 branch (not just Etoys' but everything else has similar issues I
 suppose) will not be tested well by many people, even ourselves, on
 B4.  In this circumstance, how should we proceed?  Should we proceed
 to push the changes to branch?  Or is it a bad idea and it should be
 deferred?

   Thanks!

 -- Yoshiki

 At Mon, 22 Oct 2007 10:43:46 -0400,
 Kim Quirk wrote:
 
  Schedules:
 
  This is the last week of changes to the FRS, or Frist Deployment, code
 base.
 
  There are 70+ blocking bugs and over 230 high priority bugs. These
 should be the highest priority for most people who
  are helping out in both development and test. After this week, we will
 hand pick the bug fixes that will go into the
  build; and start shutting down the code churn.
 
  Please look through your bug list, including any other components that
 might be related to your bug list (sometimes they
  get put under the wrong component); and figure out what you believe to
 be the First Deployment show stoppers. Look at
  bugs that are assigned to the FRS milestone as well as those that have
 not been assigned or those that are untriaged.
 
  This is the code that our first deployment children in Uruguay will
 experience as well as those who are donating to the
  G1G1 program -- so we'd like to present the best user experience as
 possible.
 
  Meetings this week (please send me email if you need a call in number
 and don't have it):
 
  Monday 1pm EDT: Test meeting - where are we on the test sprint
 objectives; highest priority testing for this week
  Tuesday 12:00 (noon, EDT): Journal/datastore update, saving to the
 school server
  Tuesday 12:30 EDT: Tubes, presence, new mesh protocol, jabber servers
  Wednesday 11:30 EDT: Sugar UI (This might not be the correct
 time...Christian or Eben will send out time)
  Wednesday 4:00 pm EDT: Security update (NOTE the change of day)
 
  We may need a meeting on connectivity issues (to continue from where we
 left off with Marvell and Cozybits last week)
  We may need a meeting dedicated to school server integration
 
  We are coming down to the last few weeks. Thanks for everyone's focus
 and dedication to these difficult details.
 
  - Kim
 
 

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Monday Ship Mtg update message

2007-10-22 Thread Kim Quirk
Schedules:

This is the last week of changes to the FRS, or Frist Deployment, code base.


There are 70+ blocking bugs and over 230 high priority bugs. These should be
the highest priority for most people who are helping out in both development
and test. After this week, we will hand pick the bug fixes that will go into
the build; and start shutting down the code churn.

Please look through your bug list, including any other components that might
be related to your bug list (sometimes they get put under the wrong
component); and figure out what you believe to be the First Deployment show
stoppers. Look at bugs that are assigned to the FRS milestone as well as
those that have not been assigned or those that are untriaged.

This is the code that our first deployment children in Uruguay will
experience as well as those who are donating to the G1G1 program -- so we'd
like to present the best user experience as possible.


Meetings this week (please send me email if you need a call in number and
don't have it):

Monday 1pm EDT: Test meeting - where are we on the test sprint objectives;
highest priority testing for this week
Tuesday 12:00 (noon, EDT): Journal/datastore update, saving to the school
server
Tuesday 12:30 EDT: Tubes, presence, new mesh protocol, jabber servers
Wednesday 11:30 EDT: Sugar UI (This might not be the correct
time...Christian or Eben will send out time)
Wednesday 4:00 pm EDT: Security update (NOTE the change of day)

We may need a meeting on connectivity issues (to continue from where we left
off with Marvell and Cozybits last week)
We may need a meeting dedicated to school server integration

We are coming down to the last few weeks. Thanks for everyone's focus and
dedication to these difficult details.

- Kim
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