Re: New boot animation for 12.1.0

2012-03-30 Thread Frederick Grose
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 2:20 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Daniel Drake wrote: > > The first frame will have the complete ring, plus the sugar/Fedora > > logos, so this transition is already clear. > > Ah, true. Hmm, maybe it's time to have an OLPC logo in there. >

Re: New boot animation for 12.1.0

2012-03-30 Thread Walter Bender
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 2:20 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Daniel Drake wrote: >> The first frame will have the complete ring, plus the sugar/Fedora >> logos, so this transition is already clear. > > Ah, true. Hmm, maybe it's time to have an OLPC logo in there. +1

Re: New boot animation for 12.1.0

2012-03-29 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Daniel Drake wrote: > The first frame will have the complete ring, plus the sugar/Fedora > logos, so this transition is already clear. Ah, true. Hmm, maybe it's time to have an OLPC logo in there. m --  martin.langh...@gmail.com  mar...@laptop.org -- Software

Re: New boot animation for 12.1.0

2012-03-29 Thread Manuel Quiñones
El día 29 de marzo de 2012 15:03, Martin Langhoff escribió: > 2012/3/29 Daniel Drake : >> Looks great! > > +1 > >> The first frame should have the bottom-center dot in dark-grey to >> match the firmware. (currently you have that in frame 2) > > Maybe that counts as a step, and perhaps can help us

Re: New boot animation for 12.1.0

2012-03-29 Thread Manuel Quiñones
El día 29 de marzo de 2012 14:59, Daniel Drake escribió: > 2012/3/29 Manuel Quiñones : >> Taking into account your considerations (one frame per second >> animation, no time for fancy stuff, and also not needed) I did this >> mockup: >> >> http://dev.laptop.org/~manuq/bootmock.gif >> >> It preserv

Re: New boot animation for 12.1.0

2012-03-29 Thread Daniel Drake
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: >> The first frame should have the bottom-center dot in dark-grey to >> match the firmware. (currently you have that in frame 2) > > Maybe that counts as a step, and perhaps can help us diagnose freeze > in the firmware/linux transition? Th

Re: New boot animation for 12.1.0

2012-03-29 Thread Martin Langhoff
2012/3/29 Daniel Drake : > Looks great! +1 > The first frame should have the bottom-center dot in dark-grey to > match the firmware. (currently you have that in frame 2) Maybe that counts as a step, and perhaps can help us diagnose freeze in the firmware/linux transition? > If people agree with

Re: New boot animation for 12.1.0

2012-03-29 Thread Daniel Drake
2012/3/29 Manuel Quiñones : > Taking into account your considerations (one frame per second > animation, no time for fancy stuff, and also not needed) I did this > mockup: > > http://dev.laptop.org/~manuq/bootmock.gif > > It preserves the ring and makes it a spinner animation of 4 frames. > The fre

Re: New boot animation for 12.1.0

2012-03-29 Thread Manuel Quiñones
Hey Daniel, Great to see the boot time improved and simplified! El día 20 de marzo de 2012 19:09, Daniel Drake escribió: > On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 10:16 PM, Martin Langhoff > wrote: >>  - How easy is it to implement something nice? I see Manuel's already >> been asking you about it, and it'd be

Re: New boot animation for 12.1.0

2012-03-26 Thread Richard Smith
> pps.  Richard - when the "pretty boot" appears to stall, I do not think > booting has gotten very far.  Without both USB devices plugged in, "pretty > boot" eventually activates the camera LED (presumably while initializing the > camera).  But when "pretty boot" stalls (with both USB devices plug

Re: New boot animation for 12.1.0

2012-03-26 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
On 03/26/2012 07:33 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: Hitting escape on at least one of the XO-1/1.5/1.75 worked for me in my testing, I don't remember exactly which one(s) it was but it was certainly working in base testing (ie no modifications, no extra HW). My setup *does* have extra HW. I have an

Re: New boot animation for 12.1.0

2012-03-26 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Richard Smith wrote: >> >> My point was if you hit escape once it stops you can see where the >> boot is stopping so to find out what is causing the problem. > > He reported that doesn't work. > >>> pause at the ok prompt, but BEFORE the boot process stalls. [Once

Re: New boot animation for 12.1.0

2012-03-26 Thread Paul Fox
peter wrote: > On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 10:50 PM, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: > >>> I do not think the two-step progression from one dot to three dots is > >>> very > >>> useful. Particularly since on an XO with 21005xx1 with both an USB hub > >>> and > >>> an USB-ethernet adapter plugged in, "pr

Re: New boot animation for 12.1.0

2012-03-26 Thread Richard Smith
> > My point was if you hit escape once it stops you can see where the > boot is stopping so to find out what is causing the problem. He reported that doesn't work. >> pause at the ok prompt, but BEFORE the boot process stalls. [Once booting >> has paused at the single dot, pressing escape does n

Re: New boot animation for 12.1.0

2012-03-26 Thread Peter Robinson
On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 10:50 PM, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: >>> I do not think the two-step progression from one dot to three dots is >>> very >>> useful.  Particularly since on an XO with 21005xx1 with both an USB hub >>> and >>> an USB-ethernet adapter plugged in, "pretty boot" stalls with the one

Re: New boot animation for 12.1.0

2012-03-25 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
I do not think the two-step progression from one dot to three dots is very useful. Particularly since on an XO with 21005xx1 with both an USB hub and an USB-ethernet adapter plugged in, "pretty boot" stalls with the one dot showing. [No change after 30 minutes; no clue as to what the user shoul

Re: New boot animation for 12.1.0

2012-03-25 Thread Peter Robinson
On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 7:33 PM, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: > I do not think the two-step progression from one dot to three dots is very > useful.  Particularly since on an XO with 21005xx1 with both an USB hub and > an USB-ethernet adapter plugged in, "pretty boot" stalls with the one dot > showing.

Re: New boot animation for 12.1.0

2012-03-25 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
I do not think the two-step progression from one dot to three dots is very useful. Particularly since on an XO with 21005xx1 with both an USB hub and an USB-ethernet adapter plugged in, "pretty boot" stalls with the one dot showing. [No change after 30 minutes; no clue as to what the user sh

Re: New boot animation for 12.1.0

2012-03-23 Thread Frederick Grose
Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Daniel Drake wrote: > On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Gonzalo Odiard > wrote: > > I compared os5 and os883 side by side and os883 is a lot faster to boot. > > I understand is not all plymouth time, but would be good if we can avoid > > increasing boot time. > > M

Re: New boot animation for 12.1.0

2012-03-23 Thread Daniel Drake
On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: > I compared os5 and os883 side by side and os883 is a lot faster to boot. > I understand is not all plymouth time, but would be good if we can avoid > increasing boot time. Make sure you are testing post-first-boot in both cases, with both

Re: New boot animation for 12.1.0

2012-03-23 Thread Peter Robinson
On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: >> >> However, due to the overall boot time decrease, and increase in >> startup parallelization, I'm seeing that we have very little time to >> do anything animated. The initramfs starts the animation and then >> boots the rest of the system,

Re: New boot animation for 12.1.0

2012-03-23 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
> > > However, due to the overall boot time decrease, and increase in > startup parallelization, I'm seeing that we have very little time to > do anything animated. The initramfs starts the animation and then > boots the rest of the system, providing a window of maybe 3-4 seconds > while we animate

Re: New boot animation for 12.1.0

2012-03-20 Thread Daniel Drake
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 10:16 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: >  - How easy is it to implement something nice? I see Manuel's already > been asking you about it, and it'd be great to have something cool ;-) The complexity of the task depends on the complexity of the graphic. But as we really need to b

Re: New boot animation for 12.1.0

2012-03-19 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 4:21 PM, Daniel Drake wrote: > I've just pushed everything needed for a new boot animation for > 12.1.0, it will arrive in the next build. Yay! Eager to see it! > The new animation is based on plymouth, Good to hear Plymouth is a bit better than it used t

Re: New boot animation for 12.1.0

2012-03-19 Thread Hal Murray
> If the indication can track fraction_completed - so much the better - but I > do not expect the user to leave the room if the boot process takes longer > than he expects. Seeing "only 25% to go" is ; the > is knowing "no problems thus far". Watching the number of files in /var/run/*pid an

Re: New boot animation for 12.1.0

2012-03-19 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
What I think is important is for the user to be given visual ASSURANCE that the boot process has not gotten "stuck" (e.g., the line of periods emitted by long-running processes). If the indication can track fraction_completed - so much the better - but I do not expect the user to leave the roo

New boot animation for 12.1.0

2012-03-19 Thread Daniel Drake
Hi, I've just pushed everything needed for a new boot animation for 12.1.0, it will arrive in the next build. The old olpc-bootanim system was barely working in F17, mostly due to the move to systemd. As the init sequence is no longer linear (it includes a lot of parallelization) it wou