Re: OLPC XO 1.75 replace one of the 3 usb port with a mini hdmi

2012-11-08 Thread John Watlington

On Jan 19, 2011, at 6:48 AM, Andrew Puch wrote:

 Is the cost and form factor viable to replace one of the external usb
 ports with a mini hdmi Type C or D port ? 

Yes.   We finally took your suggestion on XO-4.

 When students or teacher give talks it would be nice for them to show to
 the class on the tv what they are doing.

 The type hdmi 1.4 , D connector is 2.8 mm × 6.4 mm, where as the hdmi
 1.3 type C connector is 2.42 mm × 10.42 mm; for comparison, a micro-USB
 connector is 2.94 mm × 7.8 mm and usb a is 11.5 mm × 4.5 mm.
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI#Connectors
 
 Looks like the  ARMADA 610 has support for hdmi 1.3   
 http://www.slashgear.com/marvell-armada-610-app-processor-1080p-hdmi-3d-graphics-more-0567682/

As does it's successor, the PXA2128, used in the XO-4 and XO-4 Touch.

 Also I hope there is a give1get1 one for this machine along with a nice
 touch screen :) 

There is a touchscreen on the XO-4 Touch.   We are thinking of ways to
increase availability of these.

 Maybe a usb header on the motherboard, along with pcie mini card a boy
 can dream. 

There is a spare USB port on the motherboard, although it is accessible
on resistor pads, not a connector.   Sorry about the mini-PCIe --- we
use that connector for the WLAN but it only has SDIO and USB.

Cheers,
wad
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Re: OLPC XO 1.75 replace one of the 3 usb port with a mini hdmi

2011-01-20 Thread John Watlington

On Jan 20, 2011, at 5:12 AM, Peter Robinson wrote:

 On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 7:17 AM, Frantisek Dufka duf...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 19.1.2011 12:48, Andrew Puch wrote:
 Also I hope there is a give1get1 one for this machine along with a nice
 touch screen :)
 
 Even selling just motherboard upgrades to XO-1 G1G1 would be great. BTW,
 does 1.75 board still fit into XO-1 like the 1.5 one does?
 
 Yes, except there's a slight mod required to secure the wifi but
 that's the same mod that's required to mount a 1.5 MB in a 1.0 case
 too. 1.75 in a 1.5 case should be fine. There was a post to the list
 in the last couple of days about a 1.5 MB in a 1.0 case and what minor
 mod was required.

We have a metal bracket designed and in production which makes that
even more trivial.   Unfortunately, doing this also requires adding some
conductive foam/tape in a number of places in order to maintain the same
ESD protection as the XO-1.

Cheers,
wad

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Re: OLPC XO 1.75 replace one of the 3 usb port with a mini hdmi

2011-01-20 Thread John Watlington

On Jan 19, 2011, at 6:48 AM, Andrew Puch wrote:

 Is the cost and form factor viable to replace one of the external usb
 ports with a mini hdmi Type C or D port ? 
 
 When students or teacher give talks it would be nice for them to show to
 the class on the tv what they are doing.
 
 The type hdmi 1.4 , D connector is 2.8 mm × 6.4 mm, where as the hdmi
 1.3 type C connector is 2.42 mm × 10.42 mm; for comparison, a micro-USB
 connector is 2.94 mm × 7.8 mm and usb a is 11.5 mm × 4.5 mm.
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI#Connectors

Hmm.   Most of the schools I've seen with XOs have no TVs, much less
one with HDMI input.

The HDMI pins aren't reused for anything, so this IS theoretically possible.
We didn't budget for HDMI power, however.We'll think about it.

wad

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OLPC XO 1.75 replace one of the 3 usb port with a mini hdmi

2011-01-19 Thread Andrew Puch
Is the cost and form factor viable to replace one of the external usb
ports with a mini hdmi Type C or D port ? 

When students or teacher give talks it would be nice for them to show to
the class on the tv what they are doing.
 
The type hdmi 1.4 , D connector is 2.8 mm × 6.4 mm, where as the hdmi
1.3 type C connector is 2.42 mm × 10.42 mm; for comparison, a micro-USB
connector is 2.94 mm × 7.8 mm and usb a is 11.5 mm × 4.5 mm.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI#Connectors


Looks like the  ARMADA 610 has support for hdmi 1.3   
http://www.slashgear.com/marvell-armada-610-app-processor-1080p-hdmi-3d-graphics-more-0567682/

Also I hope there is a give1get1 one for this machine along with a nice
touch screen :) 

Maybe a usb header on the motherboard, along with pcie mini card a boy
can dream. 



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