RE: Microsoft

2008-05-20 Thread Joshua Seal
] On Behalf Of Jim Gettys Sent: 19 May 2008 15:50 To: Walter Bender Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; OLPC Devel Subject: Re: Microsoft On Mon, 2008-05-19 at 07:55 -0400, Walter Bender wrote: The price often quoted has been $7 for the SD card. Not sure where that number comes from. I recall that a $19 high-speed

Re: Microsoft

2008-05-20 Thread Jim Gettys
We already have the technology in place to automatically update the firmware as part of updating the laptop. We certainly don't what the support headaches of having to support multiple versions. - Jim On Thu, 2008-05-15 at 18:34 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nick

Re: Microsoft

2008-05-19 Thread John Gilmore
So... all the new 200,000 XOs that will come to Peru will come with this new V2 Bios. and the first 45,000 will be updated? Or we have to deal with a mixed enviroment? (no problem... just asking...) Since the V2 firmware is only recently demo-able, not yet product quality, it's too early to

Re: Microsoft

2008-05-19 Thread Walter Bender
The price often quoted has been $7 for the SD card. Not sure where that number comes from. I recall that a $19 high-speed card was used in the original testing; at the time it was asserted that a standard-speed card was necessary. I don't know that this is still the case. -walter On Mon, May

Re: Microsoft

2008-05-19 Thread Richard A. Smith
Walter Bender wrote: The price often quoted has been $7 for the SD card. Not sure where that number comes from. I recall that a $19 high-speed card was used in the original testing; at the time it was asserted that a standard-speed card was necessary. I don't know that this is still the

Re: Microsoft

2008-05-19 Thread Jim Gettys
On Mon, 2008-05-19 at 07:55 -0400, Walter Bender wrote: The price often quoted has been $7 for the SD card. Not sure where that number comes from. I recall that a $19 high-speed card was used in the original testing; at the time it was asserted that a standard-speed card was necessary. 

Re: Microsoft / new firmware

2008-05-16 Thread John Gilmore
[NN] then claimed no OLPC resources would be devoted to the project. I'm left wondering how many of those resources went into this firmware mod. The firmware mod required weeks of a skilled engineer's time. This engineer put in the time, partly or fully paid by OLPC,

Re: Microsoft

2008-05-16 Thread Steve Holton
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 8:57 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kurt H Maier wrote: How is this relevant? When Microsoft sits down and throws its vast resources at making Windows just work on the XO-1, it's going to blow our current FOSS distributions out of the water.

Re: Microsoft

2008-05-16 Thread Jason Galyon
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nick Negroponte has said : Open Firmware V2, the free and open source BIOS, is now capable of running Linux, Microsoft Windows XP and other operating systems, and was developed by Firmworks with support from OLPC. This will enable dual boot of OLPC XO laptops with

Re: Microsoft

2008-05-15 Thread Albert Cahalan
Seth Woodworth writes: So as a fair practice I think it's clear that no special actions can ethically be made to prevent Windows or any other OS from running on the machine. So a Windows port for the XO isn't something that could have been preventative. Wrong. It's called tit-for-tat,

Re: Microsoft

2008-05-15 Thread Seth Woodworth
Wrong. It's called tit-for-tat, otherwise known as fair-is-fair. It's perfectly ethical to defend oneself against an adversary who has no qualms about anything. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. - Ghandi ___ Devel mailing list

Re: Microsoft

2008-05-15 Thread Bernie Innocenti
Nicholas Negroponte wrote: OLPC is substantially increasing its engineering resources and all software development continues entirely on GNU/Linux. We will continue to work to make Sugar on Linux the best possible platform for education and to invest in our expanding Linux deployments in

Firmware change (Re: Microsoft)

2008-05-15 Thread Korakurider
On 5/16/08, Nicholas Negroponte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Open Firmware V2, the free and open source BIOS, is now capable of running Linux, Microsoft Windows XP and other operating systems, and was developed by Firmworks with support from OLPC. This will enable dual boot of OLPC XO laptops with

Re: Firmware change (Re: Microsoft)

2008-05-15 Thread John Watlington
On May 15, 2008, at 10:39 PM, Korakurider wrote: On 5/16/08, Nicholas Negroponte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Open Firmware V2, the free and open source BIOS, is now capable of running Linux, Microsoft Windows XP and other operating systems, and was developed by Firmworks with support from

Re: Microsoft? (was Re: OLPC seeks a CEO -- who was your favorite CEO elsewhere?)

2008-03-11 Thread Todd Cranston-Cuebas
I'm waiting to hear about this one also. On the one hand the OLPC can't be shipped with the Flash plug-in but the whole project is going to go to Microsoft? Talk about moving between extremes. I'm not sure why a more balanced approach couldn't work but then again, I'm more of a supporter (bought

Re: Microsoft? (was Re: OLPC seeks a CEO -- who was your favorite CEO elsewhere?)

2008-03-11 Thread Charles Merriam
Is there *any* suggestion that the entire Microsoft on OLPC story is anything other than: 1. A small group of experimenters at Microsoft playing around in the slack time. 2. FUD stories to downplay OLPC. The OLPC corporate needs to respond with a one liner that we have no plans to now or in the

Re: Microsoft? (was Re: OLPC seeks a CEO -- who was your favorite CEO elsewhere?)

2008-03-11 Thread Jameson Chema Quinn
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 3:59 PM, Charles Merriam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there *any* suggestion that the entire Microsoft on OLPC story is anything other than: 1. A small group of experimenters at Microsoft playing around in the slack time. 2. FUD stories to downplay OLPC. You forgot

Re: Microsoft? (was Re: OLPC seeks a CEO -- who was your favorite CEO elsewhere?)

2008-03-11 Thread Charles Merriam
Um, you guys do know how to use the search function on the Wiki, don't you? Please be civil. Yeah, Nicholas said pretty much the first half of that months ago. The issue is the conflicting Negroponte quotes: Windows on XO has not only been happening with our consent, but (also our)

Re: Microsoft? (was Re: OLPC seeks a CEO -- who was your favorite CEO elsewhere?)

2008-03-11 Thread Ivan Krstić
On Mar 11, 2008, at 10:26 PM, victor wrote: I didn't know Microsoft and Windows were going to be there. So why all the effort if in the end a closed OS is going to be used? There is no change in strategy. For background (and comment furor) on the XP situation, see: