RE: Upgrade G1G1 using autoreinstallation method
Hi John, Sorry for silence, I am just back from a trial deployment in East Sepik (wiki will be updated later today) See feedback from OLPC Australia: (note that setting up an XS is not a short term option in our trials in PNG, as there is no permanent power supply a the school) >>> Just wanted to give everyone an update. I bought a DLink DWL-2100AP which is what David and Ian are trying to implement for their XO rollouts. We found that we could not get DHCP working on the AP at all for either an XO or for an IBM laptop running Ubuntu. We tried several different firmware versions (although the AP is seemingly locked to European firmware and we can't use the US ones) and the only way we could use it was as an AP that forwards DHCP requests to the network. >>> We've spent about 4 hours today trying to troubleshoot the issues and I am unfortunately going to have to recommend that the APs be plugged into a network which plugs into an XS server for DHCP to get the XOs connected. David, where you can't have an XS server you could always buy a different AP or other DHCP allocation device per site for DHCP resolution as these APs seem to be inappropriate for the job (at least the Australian ones). >>> As per my email to the devel list, we purchased an identical AP and mostly duplicated the problem you're seeing, but were unable to find a fix. >>> We tested different firmware versions and different settings. Googling for the issue was interesting as most people simply gave up and used these APs as wireless bridges. Ultimately the clients will associate with the AP fine, but they simply will not get a DHCP address and there are a lot of messy log messages that don't help at all. >>> I think setting up XS server at the sites (where possible) and turning DHCP off on the AP is the most sensible way forward. I know this contrasts slightly with David's experience but this is what we found. Let me know if you find anything else. >>> If you want me to source APs that do work both for the future and perhaps to act as the DHCP servers for your existing sites, please let me know. A disappointing outcome but with a bit more notice we'd be happy to help recommend and source better hardware in the future. We literally knew about Ian's trip through Australia and the purchase of the APs the day before he arrived. >>> it seems these APs are not highly regarded and apparently in particular have issues in high temperature conditions, so you may have worse issues ahead of you :/ Please let us know what we can do to help. -Original Message- From: John Watlington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 17 June 2008 5:58 a.m. To: David Leeming Cc: John Watlington; 'Bert Freudenberg'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Upgrade G1G1 using autoreinstallation method On Jun 14, 2008, at 6:09 AM, David Leeming wrote: > Hi John, > > To see if we could duplicate our problem, we tried with another AP: > We have > a VSAT set up near the village where we are deploying a trial with 50 > children in PNG. It has a reliable wireless AP and you can > associate both > "grown up" laptops and XOs no problems. The XOs will then see the > Internet > and also other XOs and the activities will share OK. This AP has a > DHCP > server on the wireless side. In fact, there is no other as the AP > connects > straight to the VSAT modem, which does not have DHCP set up, via a > switch. > If one pulls the cable out on the LAN side of the AP the XOs cease > to share > and quickly drop out and look for the mesh. So, this duplicated the > problem > I described. More and more interesting. Have you been able to follow up on what Pia Waugh found ? Does it seem relevant ? > I am now told that a jabber service is needed to keep the XOs > interested and > reliably collaborating, that maybe is the cause? Do you concur? You absolutely don't need a jabber server for laptops to associate with an access point. Something else is wrong here. >> Not knowing more about what you've done, I have >> to ask a lot of v. simple questions. >> >> When you say "move on", you have manually associated each >> laptop with the AP once, right ? And the ESSID hasn't changed ? >> >> How realiable is the failure ? Do all XOs "move on" to mesh >> mode, or is this only a problem with a (random) few ? ? >> How many XOs on each channel ? ? As JG mentions, if you have too many laptops per AP, this is a known problem. How many are you trying ? >> You could be seeing a failure of DHCP to actually occur. >> Have you checked /var/log/messages on a failing laptop ? John ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Upgrade G1G1 using autoreinstallation method
Hi all, > I'm glad you found a solution. Can you provide more information (such as > exactly what model of AP are you using ? Which versions of firmware > worked/didn't work.) Just wanted to give everyone an update. I bought a DLink DWL-2100AP which is what David and Ian are trying to implement for their XO rollouts. We found that we could not get DHCP working on the AP at all for either an XO or for an IBM laptop running Ubuntu. We tried several different firmware versions (although the AP is seemingly locked to European firmware and we can't use the US ones) and the only way we could use it was as an AP that forwards DHCP requests to the network. We've spent about 4 hours today trying to troubleshoot the issues and I am unfortunately going to have to recommend that the APs be plugged into a network which plugs into an XS server for DHCP to get the XOs connected. David, where you can't have an XS server you could always buy a different AP or other DHCP allocation device per site for DHCP resolution as these APs seem to be inappropriate for the job (at least the Australian ones). Cheers, Pia -- OLPC Australia http://olpc.org.au/ Linux Australia http://linux.org.au/ Open Source Industry Australia http://osia.net.au/ Software Freedom Day http://softwarefreedomday.org/ "I dig your vibe." - Rove McManus to Ice T ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Upgrade G1G1 using autoreinstallation method
Hi all, > > If one pulls the cable out on the LAN side of the AP the XOs cease to > > share and quickly drop out and look for the mesh. So, this duplicated > > the problem I described. > > More and more interesting. > > Have you been able to follow up on what Pia Waugh found ? Does it seem > relevant ? I am purchasing one of the exact same APs today to figure it out and will post to the list what I find and whether the fix I found works. Cheers, Pia -- OLPC Australia http://olpc.org.au/ Linux Australia http://linux.org.au/ Open Source Industry Australia http://osia.net.au/ Software Freedom Day http://softwarefreedomday.org/ "If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world." - J. R. R. Tolkien ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Upgrade G1G1 using autoreinstallation method
On Jun 14, 2008, at 6:09 AM, David Leeming wrote: > Hi John, > > To see if we could duplicate our problem, we tried with another AP: > We have > a VSAT set up near the village where we are deploying a trial with 50 > children in PNG. It has a reliable wireless AP and you can > associate both > "grown up" laptops and XOs no problems. The XOs will then see the > Internet > and also other XOs and the activities will share OK. This AP has a > DHCP > server on the wireless side. In fact, there is no other as the AP > connects > straight to the VSAT modem, which does not have DHCP set up, via a > switch. > If one pulls the cable out on the LAN side of the AP the XOs cease > to share > and quickly drop out and look for the mesh. So, this duplicated the > problem > I described. More and more interesting. Have you been able to follow up on what Pia Waugh found ? Does it seem relevant ? > I am now told that a jabber service is needed to keep the XOs > interested and > reliably collaborating, that maybe is the cause? Do you concur? You absolutely don't need a jabber server for laptops to associate with an access point. Something else is wrong here. >> Not knowing more about what you've done, I have >> to ask a lot of v. simple questions. >> >> When you say "move on", you have manually associated each >> laptop with the AP once, right ? And the ESSID hasn't changed ? >> >> How realiable is the failure ? Do all XOs "move on" to mesh >> mode, or is this only a problem with a (random) few ? ? >> How many XOs on each channel ? ? As JG mentions, if you have too many laptops per AP, this is a known problem. How many are you trying ? >> You could be seeing a failure of DHCP to actually occur. >> Have you checked /var/log/messages on a failing laptop ? John ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Upgrade G1G1 using autoreinstallation method
I'm glad you found a solution. Can you provide more information (such as exactly what model of AP are you using ? Which versions of firmware worked/didn't work.) I can't follow the link you provided, it returns: "No Thread specified. If you followed a valid link, please notify the administrator" Thanks, John On Jun 14, 2008, at 4:29 PM, Pia Waugh wrote: > Hi, > > > >> I just found this which might help. Similar problem with that AP. >> Might >> help. >> >> http://forums.speedguide.net/showthread.php?t=223860 > > "t works!!! I took a risk and went backwards in the firmware. > First I > tried 2.10, which appeared to be just about the same as the > mysterious > shipping firmware (2.11) that is not on their website." > > It is a slightly different use case but sounds like something to try. > > Cheers, > Pia > > -- > OLPC Australia http:// > olpc.org.au/ > Linux Australia http:// > linux.org.au/ > Open Source Industry Australia http:// > osia.net.au/ > Software Freedom Day http:// > softwarefreedomday.org/ > > "There is no darkness but ignorance." - William Shakespeare > ___ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Upgrade G1G1 using autoreinstallation method
Hi, > I just found this which might help. Similar problem with that AP. Might > help. > > http://forums.speedguide.net/showthread.php?t=223860 "t works!!! I took a risk and went backwards in the firmware. First I tried 2.10, which appeared to be just about the same as the mysterious shipping firmware (2.11) that is not on their website." It is a slightly different use case but sounds like something to try. Cheers, Pia -- OLPC Australia http://olpc.org.au/ Linux Australia http://linux.org.au/ Open Source Industry Australia http://osia.net.au/ Software Freedom Day http://softwarefreedomday.org/ "There is no darkness but ignorance." - William Shakespeare ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Upgrade G1G1 using autoreinstallation method
Hi David, > To see if we could duplicate our problem, we tried with another AP: We have > a VSAT set up near the village where we are deploying a trial with 50 > children in PNG. It has a reliable wireless AP and you can associate both > "grown up" laptops and XOs no problems. The XOs will then see the Internet > and also other XOs and the activities will share OK. This AP has a DHCP > server on the wireless side. In fact, there is no other as the AP connects > straight to the VSAT modem, which does not have DHCP set up, via a switch. > If one pulls the cable out on the LAN side of the AP the XOs cease to share > and quickly drop out and look for the mesh. So, this duplicated the problem > I described. I just found this which might help. Similar problem with that AP. Might help. http://forums.speedguide.net/showthread.php?t=223860 > I am now told that a jabber service is needed to keep the XOs interested and > reliably collaborating, that maybe is the cause? Do you concur? That shouldn't impact them getting a DHCP address though, I'm not sure. Cheers, Pia -- OLPC Australia http://olpc.org.au/ Linux Australia http://linux.org.au/ Open Source Industry Australia http://osia.net.au/ Software Freedom Day http://softwarefreedomday.org/ "Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves. Here's Tom with the weather." - Bill Hicks ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
RE: Upgrade G1G1 using autoreinstallation method
Hi John, To see if we could duplicate our problem, we tried with another AP: We have a VSAT set up near the village where we are deploying a trial with 50 children in PNG. It has a reliable wireless AP and you can associate both "grown up" laptops and XOs no problems. The XOs will then see the Internet and also other XOs and the activities will share OK. This AP has a DHCP server on the wireless side. In fact, there is no other as the AP connects straight to the VSAT modem, which does not have DHCP set up, via a switch. If one pulls the cable out on the LAN side of the AP the XOs cease to share and quickly drop out and look for the mesh. So, this duplicated the problem I described. I am now told that a jabber service is needed to keep the XOs interested and reliably collaborating, that maybe is the cause? Do you concur? I do appreciate your help... David Leeming Cc: John Watlington; 'Bert Freudenberg'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Upgrade G1G1 using autoreinstallation method Not knowing more about what you've done, I have to ask a lot of v. simple questions. When you say "move on", you have manually associated each laptop with the AP once, right ? And the ESSID hasn't changed ? How realiable is the failure ? Do all XOs "move on" to mesh mode, or is this only a problem with a (random) few ? How many XOs on each channel ? You could be seeing a failure of DHCP to actually occur. Have you checked /var/log/messages on a failing laptop ? Cheers, wad On Jun 13, 2008, at 5:45 PM, David Leeming wrote: > Thanks John, but I did realise that simple fact. The APs do have > DHCP server > set up. They still move on. > > David Leeming > Technical Advisor, People First Network > Tel: +677 76396(m) 24419(h) 26358 (w) > www.leeming-consulting.com > > -Original Message- > From: John Watlington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, 14 June 2008 12:44 a.m. > To: David Leeming > Cc: John Watlington; 'Bert Freudenberg'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Upgrade G1G1 using autoreinstallation method > > > On Jun 12, 2008, at 5:10 PM, David Leeming wrote: > >> Thanks - solved. It's all there on the wiki, yes (blush). We have a >> lot of >> time pressures imposed by the political realities here, with 20+ >> countries >> each with their own government and process to go through, etc. I do >> appreciate your help! >> >> Do you also know about access points, it was stressed at the >> Countries >> meeting in Boston that 30+ XOs in one classroom do not collaborate >> very >> efficiently and the preferred method is to use an AP to enable >> collaboration/sharing in the classroom, even if there is no >> Internet access. >> We have had some D-Link DWL2100 APs sent to us for this purpose and >> what >> happens is that if there is no Internet connection the XOs do not >> associate >> themselves persistently with the APs but "hang up" and go looking >> for the >> mesh. Do you know anything about that? > > Yes. If there is no school server, and no other connection to the > Internet, > then you will have to let one of the APs provide DHCP service. If > the laptops > connect to an AP, but aren't issued an address via DHCP, they move > on... > >> David Leeming >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Bert Freudenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Thursday, 12 June 2008 7:28 p.m. >> To: David Leeming >> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: Re: Upgrade G1G1 using autoreinstallation method >> >> >> On 12.06.2008, at 05:53, David Leeming wrote: >> >>> How can I upgrade G1G1 XO-1s using the auto-reinstallation method >>> with a flash drive? We have 100 to update here in PNG and it is >>> impossible to use olpc-update as the connectivity is so poor. We >>> have a flash drive with the new image 703 on it, and I successfully >>> updated a B4. But when I try a G1G1 laptop, even with pressing the >>> game keys it just boots normally without updating. I know I have >>> some gaps in my knowledge regarding the keys and security for the >>> G1G1 laptops, but unfortunately I need a quick answer. Much >>> appreciate any help. >> >> Make sure it is the signed build (called "703" not "update.1-703"), >> and remember you need an activity pack, too. See here: >> >> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Secure_Upgrade >> >> - Bert - >> >> >> ___ >> Devel mailing list >> Devel@lists.laptop.org >> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Upgrade G1G1 using autoreinstallation method
On Jun 13, 2008, at 5:45 PM, David Leeming wrote: > Thanks John, but I did realise that simple fact. The APs do have > DHCP server > set up. They still move on. BTW, not so simple. I've done tests with APs and without a DHCP server. I didn't see the problem you are referring to... wad ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Upgrade G1G1 using autoreinstallation method
Not knowing more about what you've done, I have to ask a lot of v. simple questions. When you say "move on", you have manually associated each laptop with the AP once, right ? And the ESSID hasn't changed ? How realiable is the failure ? Do all XOs "move on" to mesh mode, or is this only a problem with a (random) few ? How many XOs on each channel ? You could be seeing a failure of DHCP to actually occur. Have you checked /var/log/messages on a failing laptop ? Cheers, wad On Jun 13, 2008, at 5:45 PM, David Leeming wrote: > Thanks John, but I did realise that simple fact. The APs do have > DHCP server > set up. They still move on. > > David Leeming > Technical Advisor, People First Network > Tel: +677 76396(m) 24419(h) 26358 (w) > www.leeming-consulting.com > > -Original Message- > From: John Watlington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, 14 June 2008 12:44 a.m. > To: David Leeming > Cc: John Watlington; 'Bert Freudenberg'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Upgrade G1G1 using autoreinstallation method > > > On Jun 12, 2008, at 5:10 PM, David Leeming wrote: > >> Thanks - solved. It's all there on the wiki, yes (blush). We have a >> lot of >> time pressures imposed by the political realities here, with 20+ >> countries >> each with their own government and process to go through, etc. I do >> appreciate your help! >> >> Do you also know about access points, it was stressed at the >> Countries >> meeting in Boston that 30+ XOs in one classroom do not collaborate >> very >> efficiently and the preferred method is to use an AP to enable >> collaboration/sharing in the classroom, even if there is no >> Internet access. >> We have had some D-Link DWL2100 APs sent to us for this purpose and >> what >> happens is that if there is no Internet connection the XOs do not >> associate >> themselves persistently with the APs but "hang up" and go looking >> for the >> mesh. Do you know anything about that? > > Yes. If there is no school server, and no other connection to the > Internet, > then you will have to let one of the APs provide DHCP service. If > the laptops > connect to an AP, but aren't issued an address via DHCP, they move > on... > >> David Leeming >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Bert Freudenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Thursday, 12 June 2008 7:28 p.m. >> To: David Leeming >> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: Re: Upgrade G1G1 using autoreinstallation method >> >> >> On 12.06.2008, at 05:53, David Leeming wrote: >> >>> How can I upgrade G1G1 XO-1s using the auto-reinstallation method >>> with a flash drive? We have 100 to update here in PNG and it is >>> impossible to use olpc-update as the connectivity is so poor. We >>> have a flash drive with the new image 703 on it, and I successfully >>> updated a B4. But when I try a G1G1 laptop, even with pressing the >>> game keys it just boots normally without updating. I know I have >>> some gaps in my knowledge regarding the keys and security for the >>> G1G1 laptops, but unfortunately I need a quick answer. Much >>> appreciate any help. >> >> Make sure it is the signed build (called "703" not "update.1-703"), >> and remember you need an activity pack, too. See here: >> >> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Secure_Upgrade >> >> - Bert - >> >> >> ___ >> Devel mailing list >> Devel@lists.laptop.org >> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
RE: Upgrade G1G1 using autoreinstallation method
Thanks John, but I did realise that simple fact. The APs do have DHCP server set up. They still move on. David Leeming Technical Advisor, People First Network Tel: +677 76396(m) 24419(h) 26358 (w) www.leeming-consulting.com -Original Message- From: John Watlington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 14 June 2008 12:44 a.m. To: David Leeming Cc: John Watlington; 'Bert Freudenberg'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Upgrade G1G1 using autoreinstallation method On Jun 12, 2008, at 5:10 PM, David Leeming wrote: > Thanks - solved. It's all there on the wiki, yes (blush). We have a > lot of > time pressures imposed by the political realities here, with 20+ > countries > each with their own government and process to go through, etc. I do > appreciate your help! > > Do you also know about access points, it was stressed at the Countries > meeting in Boston that 30+ XOs in one classroom do not collaborate > very > efficiently and the preferred method is to use an AP to enable > collaboration/sharing in the classroom, even if there is no > Internet access. > We have had some D-Link DWL2100 APs sent to us for this purpose and > what > happens is that if there is no Internet connection the XOs do not > associate > themselves persistently with the APs but "hang up" and go looking > for the > mesh. Do you know anything about that? Yes. If there is no school server, and no other connection to the Internet, then you will have to let one of the APs provide DHCP service. If the laptops connect to an AP, but aren't issued an address via DHCP, they move on... > David Leeming > > -Original Message- > From: Bert Freudenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, 12 June 2008 7:28 p.m. > To: David Leeming > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Upgrade G1G1 using autoreinstallation method > > > On 12.06.2008, at 05:53, David Leeming wrote: > >> How can I upgrade G1G1 XO-1s using the auto-reinstallation method >> with a flash drive? We have 100 to update here in PNG and it is >> impossible to use olpc-update as the connectivity is so poor. We >> have a flash drive with the new image 703 on it, and I successfully >> updated a B4. But when I try a G1G1 laptop, even with pressing the >> game keys it just boots normally without updating. I know I have >> some gaps in my knowledge regarding the keys and security for the >> G1G1 laptops, but unfortunately I need a quick answer. Much >> appreciate any help. > > Make sure it is the signed build (called "703" not "update.1-703"), > and remember you need an activity pack, too. See here: > > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Secure_Upgrade > > - Bert - > > > ___ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Upgrade G1G1 using autoreinstallation method
On Jun 12, 2008, at 5:10 PM, David Leeming wrote: > Thanks - solved. It's all there on the wiki, yes (blush). We have a > lot of > time pressures imposed by the political realities here, with 20+ > countries > each with their own government and process to go through, etc. I do > appreciate your help! > > Do you also know about access points, it was stressed at the Countries > meeting in Boston that 30+ XOs in one classroom do not collaborate > very > efficiently and the preferred method is to use an AP to enable > collaboration/sharing in the classroom, even if there is no > Internet access. > We have had some D-Link DWL2100 APs sent to us for this purpose and > what > happens is that if there is no Internet connection the XOs do not > associate > themselves persistently with the APs but "hang up" and go looking > for the > mesh. Do you know anything about that? Yes. If there is no school server, and no other connection to the Internet, then you will have to let one of the APs provide DHCP service. If the laptops connect to an AP, but aren't issued an address via DHCP, they move on... > David Leeming > > -Original Message- > From: Bert Freudenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, 12 June 2008 7:28 p.m. > To: David Leeming > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Upgrade G1G1 using autoreinstallation method > > > On 12.06.2008, at 05:53, David Leeming wrote: > >> How can I upgrade G1G1 XO-1s using the auto-reinstallation method >> with a flash drive? We have 100 to update here in PNG and it is >> impossible to use olpc-update as the connectivity is so poor. We >> have a flash drive with the new image 703 on it, and I successfully >> updated a B4. But when I try a G1G1 laptop, even with pressing the >> game keys it just boots normally without updating. I know I have >> some gaps in my knowledge regarding the keys and security for the >> G1G1 laptops, but unfortunately I need a quick answer. Much >> appreciate any help. > > Make sure it is the signed build (called "703" not "update.1-703"), > and remember you need an activity pack, too. See here: > > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Secure_Upgrade > > - Bert - > > > ___ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
RE: Upgrade G1G1 using autoreinstallation method
One of the AP's (or some other machine), will have to be configured to dchp. - Jim On Fri, 2008-06-13 at 07:10 +1000, David Leeming wrote: > Thanks - solved. It's all there on the wiki, yes (blush). We have a lot of > time pressures imposed by the political realities here, with 20+ countries > each with their own government and process to go through, etc. I do > appreciate your help! > > Do you also know about access points, it was stressed at the Countries > meeting in Boston that 30+ XOs in one classroom do not collaborate very > efficiently and the preferred method is to use an AP to enable > collaboration/sharing in the classroom, even if there is no Internet access. > We have had some D-Link DWL2100 APs sent to us for this purpose and what > happens is that if there is no Internet connection the XOs do not associate > themselves persistently with the APs but "hang up" and go looking for the > mesh. Do you know anything about that? > > David Leeming > > -Original Message- > From: Bert Freudenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, 12 June 2008 7:28 p.m. > To: David Leeming > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Upgrade G1G1 using autoreinstallation method > > > On 12.06.2008, at 05:53, David Leeming wrote: > > > How can I upgrade G1G1 XO-1s using the auto-reinstallation method > > with a flash drive? We have 100 to update here in PNG and it is > > impossible to use olpc-update as the connectivity is so poor. We > > have a flash drive with the new image 703 on it, and I successfully > > updated a B4. But when I try a G1G1 laptop, even with pressing the > > game keys it just boots normally without updating. I know I have > > some gaps in my knowledge regarding the keys and security for the > > G1G1 laptops, but unfortunately I need a quick answer. Much > > appreciate any help. > > Make sure it is the signed build (called "703" not "update.1-703"), > and remember you need an activity pack, too. See here: > > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Secure_Upgrade > > - Bert - > > > ___ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Jim Gettys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> One Laptop Per Child ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
RE: Upgrade G1G1 using autoreinstallation method
Thanks - solved. It's all there on the wiki, yes (blush). We have a lot of time pressures imposed by the political realities here, with 20+ countries each with their own government and process to go through, etc. I do appreciate your help! Do you also know about access points, it was stressed at the Countries meeting in Boston that 30+ XOs in one classroom do not collaborate very efficiently and the preferred method is to use an AP to enable collaboration/sharing in the classroom, even if there is no Internet access. We have had some D-Link DWL2100 APs sent to us for this purpose and what happens is that if there is no Internet connection the XOs do not associate themselves persistently with the APs but "hang up" and go looking for the mesh. Do you know anything about that? David Leeming -Original Message- From: Bert Freudenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 12 June 2008 7:28 p.m. To: David Leeming Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Upgrade G1G1 using autoreinstallation method On 12.06.2008, at 05:53, David Leeming wrote: > How can I upgrade G1G1 XO-1s using the auto-reinstallation method > with a flash drive? We have 100 to update here in PNG and it is > impossible to use olpc-update as the connectivity is so poor. We > have a flash drive with the new image 703 on it, and I successfully > updated a B4. But when I try a G1G1 laptop, even with pressing the > game keys it just boots normally without updating. I know I have > some gaps in my knowledge regarding the keys and security for the > G1G1 laptops, but unfortunately I need a quick answer. Much > appreciate any help. Make sure it is the signed build (called "703" not "update.1-703"), and remember you need an activity pack, too. See here: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Secure_Upgrade - Bert - ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Upgrade G1G1 using autoreinstallation method
On 12.06.2008, at 05:53, David Leeming wrote: > How can I upgrade G1G1 XO-1s using the auto-reinstallation method > with a flash drive? We have 100 to update here in PNG and it is > impossible to use olpc-update as the connectivity is so poor. We > have a flash drive with the new image 703 on it, and I successfully > updated a B4. But when I try a G1G1 laptop, even with pressing the > game keys it just boots normally without updating. I know I have > some gaps in my knowledge regarding the keys and security for the > G1G1 laptops, but unfortunately I need a quick answer. Much > appreciate any help. Make sure it is the signed build (called "703" not "update.1-703"), and remember you need an activity pack, too. See here: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Secure_Upgrade - Bert - ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel