Re: Release 8.2.0 -- pls add critical features (Greg Smith)
Bryan Berry wrote: URI's are what we use to link to different resources. ... We may end up hacking Browse esp. to allow this because of the immense demand. It's still unclear whether you want kids to start an activity from scratch or download a starter object for a particular activity. If you just want the kids to start an activity from scratch, and the lesson plan web page says Start Etoys [icon for Etoys] can children really not follow the instruction? Starting an activity is basic, and if their XO is already running the activity they probably shouldn't start another instance. Anyway, if kids can't figure this out, in Mozilla it should be possible to register a new protocol handler for activity://foo or etoys://bar that starts an external application. In about:config set network.protocol-handler.app.activity=/usr/bin/mystartactivity , where /usr/bin/mystartactivity starts the activity (using /usr/bin/sugar-activity ?). If it worked, this script could evolve into the sugar launching service that Eben Eliason described earlier in the thread. FWIW I tried this in build 708 and couldn't get it to work, I either get a failure to load a garbled local URL or a PyXPCOM LoadURI error in the log. If by link to a different resource you mean download a starter object, then as bemasc commented in your bug http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/6958 , just link to a file with the right mimetype for that activity. (A small file would even act as a simple activator). FWIW I tried this for an Etoys application/x-squeak-project mime type and it didn't work. Realize that every time the kid clicks the link to the starter file, Browse downloads another copy of it into the Journal (viz. e-mail thread downloaded files and the Journal), which isn't ideal for a big object. So the lesson plan web page might say something like: Open your Journal and find the 'Science Acoustics Lab 2' Etoys activity and run this (in Etoys). If you haven't already downloaded 'Science Acoustics Lab 2', _click here_. If you want to play along, my notes and links for both failed approaches are at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Talk:Browse#Launching_activities_from_Browse , anyone please update. I would think any Web-based learning plan that involves launching apps and downloading files has similar issues jumping out of the web page. I wonder how they solve them. Respectfully yours, -- =S Page ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Release 8.2.0 -- pls add critical features (Greg Smith)
Am 06.07.2008 um 09:00 schrieb S Page: If by link to a different resource you mean download a starter object, then as bemasc commented in your bug http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/ 6958 , just link to a file with the right mimetype for that activity. (A small file would even act as a simple activator). FWIW I tried this for an Etoys application/x-squeak-project mime type and it didn't work. Works for me in 708. It's still awkward to use, and fills up the Journal with useless files. Why does the Journal have to be involved anyway? Why can't there be a less intrusive way to open another activity? What actual harm could there be in instructing Sugar to launch an already installed activity as if we had clicked the activity icon? - Bert - ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Release 8.2.0 -- pls add critical features (Greg Smith)
Greg wrote: Thanks for keeping us apprised of your needs! My pleasure. I'm also not aware of any feasible design proposal which might address your request. You need a precedent or engineering level suggestion to move this forward. Is this possible in Firefox at all? Probably not. We had two evaluators spend a week at both of our pilot schools and the consistent feedback they came back w/ was 1) The teachers want lesson plans integrated w/ the activities 2) The parents don't see the learning activities as anything more than games. This was constructive feedback they gave us. I am happy to report that the kids, teachers, and parents were overwhelmingly positive about this project. We need a way to seamlessly integrate supporting materials such as readings, lesson plans, together with activities. HTML is the way to do this and the browser is what we use to display html. URI's are what we use to link to different resources. We may end up hacking Browse esp. to allow this because of the immense demand. We need to make it dead simple for teachers to use activities like EToys, E-Paath, Measure in the classroom. The easiest way to do this is to make the transition from lesson plan to activity as easy as possible. I think that having a URL launch a local application will be a fatal security hole. I don't know of any examples of that off the top of my head. I don't know squat about security but this is a very important application. My guess is that you need to re-think your Moodle - activity model and work flow. If can solve the problem from there using the currently available functionality that will be the shortest path to a solution. I have rethought it and I believe more firmly that the moodle - activity workflow is the way to go. On your second point, I think the thread has been productive. I marked the bug a blocker for 8.2.0. I think we will close it by including the remove via Journal solution unless Eben can be convinced of a better implementation. as long as we can remove activities installed w/ the customization key or by other means. BTW I stored your other request sent on the process thread in my requirement gathering folder. thank you for your attention to these important matters. You should come out to Nepal one of these days. As I told one of the developers recently: Get Thee to a Pilot site! Any Pilot site! Bryan Kathmandu ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Release 8.2.0 -- pls add critical features (Greg Smith)
On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 9:35 AM, Bryan Berry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greg wrote: Thanks for keeping us apprised of your needs! My pleasure. From what I can see v8.2.0 is at a late stage - we are discussing what it takes to ship the features we have in Joyride end-of-business Monday. Having said that... We had two evaluators spend a week at both of our pilot schools and the consistent feedback they came back w/ was 1) The teachers want lesson plans integrated w/ the activities 2) The parents don't see the learning activities as anything more than games. That's interesting feedback - though I have to say that perceptions are easier to shape in the social space than in the software space. Any effort on the sw side will always have to be supported/shaped in the social side anyway :-) We need a way to seamlessly integrate supporting materials such as readings, lesson plans, together with activities. HTML is the way to do this and the browser is what we use to display html. URI's are what we use to link to different resources. As Tomeu indicates, we can do some of that from within the XS, with Moodle, by serving an empty or skeleton activity document. The simplest way: create a barebones new moodle module that resembles a simple version of the resource module. Instead of requiring that a file is uploaded, it should know how to create and serve an skeleton Journal Entry Bundle (as per http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Journal_entry_bundles ). I am right now writing code for the restore part of ds-backup that creates a JEB on the fly. We may end up hacking Browse esp. to allow this because of the immense demand. Browse is already 'hacked' to auto-trigger JEBs :-) cheers, m -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Security for launching from URL (was Re: Release 8.2.0 -- pls add critical features (Greg Smith))
On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 6:35 AM, Bryan Berry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greg wrote: Thanks for keeping us apprised of your needs! My pleasure. I'm also not aware of any feasible design proposal which might address your request. You need a precedent or engineering level suggestion to move this forward. Is this possible in Firefox at all? Probably not. ... We need a way to seamlessly integrate supporting materials such as readings, lesson plans, together with activities. HTML is the way to do this and the browser is what we use to display html. URI's are what we use to link to different resources. We may end up hacking Browse esp. to allow this because of the immense demand. We need to make it dead simple for teachers to use activities like EToys, E-Paath, Measure in the classroom. The easiest way to do this is to make the transition from lesson plan to activity as easy as possible. I think that having a URL launch a local application will be a fatal security hole. I don't know of any examples of that off the top of my head. I don't know squat about security but this is a very important application. This is Ivan's domain. My guess is that there is a way to secure the process, but it might require some extra effort beyond a software fix, like teachers whitelisting URLs for lessons. Or perhaps just whitelisting our Moodle instances. Signed lesson plans? At any rate, _not_ allowing random outside URLs to launch local activities and give them scripts to run. My guess is that you need to re-think your Moodle - activity model and work flow. If can solve the problem from there using the currently available functionality that will be the shortest path to a solution. I have rethought it and I believe more firmly that the moodle - activity workflow is the way to go. ... thank you for your attention to these important matters. You should come out to Nepal one of these days. As I told one of the developers recently: Get Thee to a Pilot site! Any Pilot site! Bryan Kathmandu ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Edward Cherlin End Poverty at a Profit by teaching children business http://www.EarthTreasury.org/ The best way to predict the future is to invent it.--Alan Kay ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Release 8.2.0 -- pls add critical features
Hi Bryan, Thanks for keeping us apprised of your needs! However, I don't see any way that we can deliver on your first request in 8.2.0. The main challenge is that the release is already well defined and this is not part of it as it stands today. I'm also not aware of any feasible design proposal which might address your request. You need a precedent or engineering level suggestion to move this forward. Is this possible in Firefox at all? I know that IE tries to open certain types of documents within the browser. It ties in a set of editing capabilities without exiting the browser, but its not the same as opening the document in the application. I don't know the technology behind it (maybe Mime Types?). If that is what you are looking for it will require a lot of work which I believe needs to come from Firefox. If you want to click on a link and then have the activity open an instance and the focus switch to that task, that's different but still challenging. I think that having a URL launch a local application will be a fatal security hole. I don't know of any examples of that off the top of my head. Come up with a design, precedent, or specific solution and we can think about it some more. My guess is that you need to re-think your Moodle - activity model and work flow. If can solve the problem from there using the currently available functionality that will be the shortest path to a solution. On your second point, I think the thread has been productive. I marked the bug a blocker for 8.2.0. I think we will close it by including the remove via Journal solution unless Eben can be convinced of a better implementation. BTW I stored your other request sent on the process thread in my requirement gathering folder. I need to get 8.2.0 queued up and on its way. Then I'll circle back for 9.1.0 and see where in the priority pile we can fit your requests. Thanks, Greg S ** Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 07:08:40 +0545 From: Bryan Berry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Release 8.2.0 -- pls add critical features To: OLPC Developer's List devel@lists.laptop.org Cc: Gregsmitholpc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain I know that Nepal is a small potato compared to Peru and Uruguay but there are two features that we really need. Furthermore, I think these features would immensely benefit the bigger deployments. 1. Need to be able to launch activities such as Scratch, EToys, Pippy, etc. by clicking on a hyperlink in browse. The activity wouldn't run in the browser. We need this functionality in order to effectively use Moodle in our schools. Here's the ticket I opened on the http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/6958 2. Need to be able to remove activities via the GUI, including installed activities, to make room for new ones. We are working on Offline Moodle activity bundles for courses. Each course will be subdivided into weekly modules. these modules will quickly fill up the ssd. kids will need a way to remove activities themselves to make room for new ones. http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7071 Our development team in Nepal is moving from developing just activities to developing entire courses that include activities, lesson plans for the teachers, and supplementary materials. This in response to feedback from the teachers at the pilots and department of education. Bryan Berry ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Release 8.2.0 -- pls add critical features
On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 8:07 AM, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On your second point, I think the thread has been productive. I marked the bug a blocker for 8.2.0. I think we will close it by including the remove via Journal solution unless Eben can be convinced of a better implementation. Actually, the solution proposed is specifically the opposite, since the nature of the request is to be able to remove activities which /do not/ appear in the Journal (as well as those that do). The design specified requires adding the ability to remove activities to the list view of Home, which provides a neat filterable list of all activities on the laptop. - Eben ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Release 8.2.0 -- pls add critical features
Hi Eben, OK. I thought you were saying that the journal can do it now or could be extended easily to remove all activities. Sounds like its a new feature which requires significant work which means its may not merit blocker status. Is there an easy way to read all activities that are present and put an item in the journal which allows you to remove them? If there's no quick fix and we're out of time then we may need to defer this one. Thanks, Greg S Eben Eliason wrote: On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 8:07 AM, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On your second point, I think the thread has been productive. I marked the bug a blocker for 8.2.0. I think we will close it by including the remove via Journal solution unless Eben can be convinced of a better implementation. Actually, the solution proposed is specifically the opposite, since the nature of the request is to be able to remove activities which /do not/ appear in the Journal (as well as those that do). The design specified requires adding the ability to remove activities to the list view of Home, which provides a neat filterable list of all activities on the laptop. - Eben ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Release 8.2.0 -- pls add critical features
Well, a Sugar dev can comment on the feasibility, but I don't think that the specification will actually be that difficult to add. I'm just calling for an additional option in the palette for an activity which uninstalls/deletes it. It may be as trivial as adding the menu item and calling an already existing function in its handler. - Eben On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 11:47 AM, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Eben, OK. I thought you were saying that the journal can do it now or could be extended easily to remove all activities. Sounds like its a new feature which requires significant work which means its may not merit blocker status. Is there an easy way to read all activities that are present and put an item in the journal which allows you to remove them? If there's no quick fix and we're out of time then we may need to defer this one. Thanks, Greg S Eben Eliason wrote: On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 8:07 AM, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On your second point, I think the thread has been productive. I marked the bug a blocker for 8.2.0. I think we will close it by including the remove via Journal solution unless Eben can be convinced of a better implementation. Actually, the solution proposed is specifically the opposite, since the nature of the request is to be able to remove activities which /do not/ appear in the Journal (as well as those that do). The design specified requires adding the ability to remove activities to the list view of Home, which provides a neat filterable list of all activities on the laptop. - Eben ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Release 8.2.0 -- pls add critical features
Yeah, may be quite easy, please send patches ;) Tomeu On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 5:59 PM, Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, a Sugar dev can comment on the feasibility, but I don't think that the specification will actually be that difficult to add. I'm just calling for an additional option in the palette for an activity which uninstalls/deletes it. It may be as trivial as adding the menu item and calling an already existing function in its handler. - Eben On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 11:47 AM, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Eben, OK. I thought you were saying that the journal can do it now or could be extended easily to remove all activities. Sounds like its a new feature which requires significant work which means its may not merit blocker status. Is there an easy way to read all activities that are present and put an item in the journal which allows you to remove them? If there's no quick fix and we're out of time then we may need to defer this one. Thanks, Greg S Eben Eliason wrote: On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 8:07 AM, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On your second point, I think the thread has been productive. I marked the bug a blocker for 8.2.0. I think we will close it by including the remove via Journal solution unless Eben can be convinced of a better implementation. Actually, the solution proposed is specifically the opposite, since the nature of the request is to be able to remove activities which /do not/ appear in the Journal (as well as those that do). The design specified requires adding the ability to remove activities to the list view of Home, which provides a neat filterable list of all activities on the laptop. - Eben ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Release 8.2.0 -- pls add critical features
Greg Smith wrote: I'm also not aware of any feasible design proposal which might address your request. You need a precedent or engineering level suggestion to move this forward. Is this possible in Firefox at all? I know that IE tries to open certain types of documents within the browser. It ties in a set of editing capabilities without exiting the browser, but its not the same as opening the document in the application. I don't know the technology behind it (maybe Mime Types?). If that is what you are looking for it will require a lot of work which I believe needs to come from Firefox. This part is actually quite easy. We don't use firefox, but we use the same engine, embedded into a sugar app. It's easy for the parent application to intercept URL requests before the engine goes off and processes them, so it's easy to invent a URL scheme such as activity://pippy The hard part is dealing with Rainbow, because Browse runs under the constraints of rainbow which probably prevents us from making one activity directly launch another in any sane way. Daniel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Release 8.2.0 -- pls add critical features
On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 19:30, Daniel Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greg Smith wrote: I'm also not aware of any feasible design proposal which might address your request. You need a precedent or engineering level suggestion to move this forward. Is this possible in Firefox at all? I know that IE tries to open certain types of documents within the browser. It ties in a set of editing capabilities without exiting the browser, but its not the same as opening the document in the application. I don't know the technology behind it (maybe Mime Types?). If that is what you are looking for it will require a lot of work which I believe needs to come from Firefox. This part is actually quite easy. We don't use firefox, but we use the same engine, embedded into a sugar app. It's easy for the parent application to intercept URL requests before the engine goes off and processes them, so it's easy to invent a URL scheme such as activity://pippy The hard part is dealing with Rainbow, because Browse runs under the constraints of rainbow which probably prevents us from making one activity directly launch another in any sane way. What we have now is show_object_in_journal, which activities can use to ask Rainbow to show a journal object. The activity creates a journal object, and then calls that resulting in Journal displaying that object. You can then resume / instantiate it. This is how Chat opens URLs in Browse. I imagine that it could be used to create a journal object corresponding to the activity type you want to open. However, where a specific mime type can be opened with multiple activities, you could choose to resume any one of them. So this doesn't guarantee a specific activity will be launched. Regards Morgan ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Release 8.2.0 -- pls add critical features
On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 1:39 PM, Morgan Collett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 19:30, Daniel Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greg Smith wrote: I'm also not aware of any feasible design proposal which might address your request. You need a precedent or engineering level suggestion to move this forward. Is this possible in Firefox at all? I know that IE tries to open certain types of documents within the browser. It ties in a set of editing capabilities without exiting the browser, but its not the same as opening the document in the application. I don't know the technology behind it (maybe Mime Types?). If that is what you are looking for it will require a lot of work which I believe needs to come from Firefox. This part is actually quite easy. We don't use firefox, but we use the same engine, embedded into a sugar app. It's easy for the parent application to intercept URL requests before the engine goes off and processes them, so it's easy to invent a URL scheme such as activity://pippy The hard part is dealing with Rainbow, because Browse runs under the constraints of rainbow which probably prevents us from making one activity directly launch another in any sane way. What we have now is show_object_in_journal, which activities can use to ask Rainbow to show a journal object. The activity creates a journal object, and then calls that resulting in Journal displaying that object. You can then resume / instantiate it. This is how Chat opens URLs in Browse. I imagine that it could be used to create a journal object corresponding to the activity type you want to open. However, where a specific mime type can be opened with multiple activities, you could choose to resume any one of them. So this doesn't guarantee a specific activity will be launched. The default association can be set though, I believe. In any case, this is quite similar to the behavior which I'd rather support, which is a Sugar launching service of sorts through which an activity can pass a URL (or file handle? or object id? or bundle id?) to Sugar, which will display a modal alert asking the user to choose what to do with it (if it is an activity, launch would likely be the only option; if it were an object, the option to act on it with any number of activities might be present.) The net result is quite similar, but the action can happen in context and thus feel much more direct. It can also be canceled. In all cases, Sugar is responsible for the dialog and the resulting action, so Rainbow isn't in the way. In a partial sense, this also solves the default handler issue, since the option is always presented to choose any supporting activity to, for instance, open a URL clicked on in Chat. Further thought could go into such a service in the future to create powerful flows of data among activities. Perhaps in the future this type of system can be used to pass the result of a spawned activity back to the spawner, such as to allow modification of an SVG icon in a future Draw activity, from within a Develop project. This goes one step further than the manual use of the clipboard in providing inter-activity explorations. - Eben ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Release 8.2.0 -- pls add critical features
Bryan, I believe that 'xo-get' can uninstall activities. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Xo-get I know that the terminal/console interface works great ! I haven't tested the latest GUI version, not sure what the current status. -iXo On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 18:23, Bryan Berry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know that Nepal is a small potato compared to Peru and Uruguay but there are two features that we really need. Furthermore, I think these features would immensely benefit the bigger deployments. 1. Need to be able to launch activities such as Scratch, EToys, Pippy, etc. by clicking on a hyperlink in browse. The activity wouldn't run in the browser. We need this functionality in order to effectively use Moodle in our schools. Here's the ticket I opened on the http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/6958 2. Need to be able to remove activities via the GUI, including installed activities, to make room for new ones. We are working on Offline Moodle activity bundles for courses. Each course will be subdivided into weekly modules. these modules will quickly fill up the ssd. kids will need a way to remove activities themselves to make room for new ones. http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7071 Our development team in Nepal is moving from developing just activities to developing entire courses that include activities, lesson plans for the teachers, and supplementary materials. This in response to feedback from the teachers at the pilots and department of education. Bryan Berry ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Release 8.2.0 -- pls add critical features
I know that Nepal is a small potato compared to Peru and Uruguay but there are two features that we really need. Furthermore, I think these features would immensely benefit the bigger deployments. 1. Need to be able to launch activities such as Scratch, EToys, Pippy, etc. by clicking on a hyperlink in browse. The activity wouldn't run in the browser. We need this functionality in order to effectively use Moodle in our schools. Here's the ticket I opened on the http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/6958 2. Need to be able to remove activities via the GUI, including installed activities, to make room for new ones. We are working on Offline Moodle activity bundles for courses. Each course will be subdivided into weekly modules. these modules will quickly fill up the ssd. kids will need a way to remove activities themselves to make room for new ones. http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7071 Our development team in Nepal is moving from developing just activities to developing entire courses that include activities, lesson plans for the teachers, and supplementary materials. This in response to feedback from the teachers at the pilots and department of education. Bryan Berry ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Release 8.2.0 -- pls add critical features
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 3:23 AM, Bryan Berry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2. Need to be able to remove activities via the GUI, including installed activities, to make room for new ones. We are working on Offline Moodle activity bundles for courses. Each course will be subdivided into weekly modules. these modules will quickly fill up the ssd. kids will need a way to remove activities themselves to make room for new ones. http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7071 You can delete those from the Journal. Is that insufficient for some reason? Marco ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Release 8.2.0 -- pls add critical features
You can delete those from the Journal. Is that insufficient for some reason? yeah, if the activity comes pre-installed you can't remove it. We include a lot of activities in our custom build as I imagine Peru and Uruguay do ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Release 8.2.0 -- pls add critical features
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 3:34 AM, Bryan Berry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can delete those from the Journal. Is that insufficient for some reason? yeah, if the activity comes pre-installed you can't remove it. We include a lot of activities in our custom build as I imagine Peru and Uruguay do Where/how are these activities installed? I thought customization keys was putting them in ~/Activities like user installed activities. Marco ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Release 8.2.0 -- pls add critical features
the activities are in ~/Activities . I spoke w/ Bernie about this and he told me that you couldn't remove activities unless they had been originally installed by the user. I may have misunderstood him and be wasting your time w/ a moot issue. I will test it myself when I get into the office this morning. If I am mistaken I will apologize profusely. for the last rollout to the schools I used the customization key to build a custom image which I copy-nand'ed to the XO's. For the refresh of Sugar I will probably try to use something like Puritan to build a custom image that includes Nepal's E-Paath activities and additional rpms for gnuchess and flash player -Original Message- From: Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Bryan Berry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: OLPC Developer's List devel@lists.laptop.org, Gregsmitholpc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Release 8.2.0 -- pls add critical features Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 03:36:16 +0200 On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 3:34 AM, Bryan Berry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can delete those from the Journal. Is that insufficient for some reason? yeah, if the activity comes pre-installed you can't remove it. We include a lot of activities in our custom build as I imagine Peru and Uruguay do Where/how are these activities installed? I thought customization keys was putting them in ~/Activities like user installed activities. Marco ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Release 8.2.0 -- pls add critical features
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 3:45 AM, Bryan Berry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the activities are in ~/Activities . I spoke w/ Bernie about this and he told me that you couldn't remove activities unless they had been originally installed by the user. I may have misunderstood him and be wasting your time w/ a moot issue. I will test it myself when I get into the office this morning. If I am mistaken I will apologize profusely. No, I think you are right actually. Now I see what you mean. Marco ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
