Re: Sad face

2011-09-11 Thread John Watlington
John, As much as I respect you and your goals, I must point out that "DRM-locked machines" are contractually required by all OLPC deployments (not our choice) above a certain size. If OLPC stopped offering some "DRM" solution, we would simply lose in the marketplace to those (Intel/Android) th

Re: Sad face

2011-09-10 Thread John Gilmore
> > Uruguay replaces the OLPC key with theirs. There is nothing we can > > do. You must talk to Uruguay support. > > Ah, thanks. I'll stop thinking about it then. Don't stop thinking about it. OLPC always has the choice to stop making DRM-locked machines. Your next machine should not offe

Re: Sad face

2011-09-09 Thread James Cameron
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 12:39:47AM -0400, Richard Smith wrote: > Uruguay replaces the OLPC key with theirs. There is nothing we can > do. You must talk to Uruguay support. Ah, thanks. I'll stop thinking about it then. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ __

Re: Sad face

2011-09-09 Thread Richard Smith
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 12:28 AM, James Cameron wrote: > On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 04:15:51AM +, Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn wrote: >> No.. the XO is with "security enabled".. >> And the "developer key" from OLPC not works on Uruguayan XO.. > > Then, without repair skills and equipment, there is no

Re: Sad face

2011-09-09 Thread James Cameron
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 04:15:51AM +, Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn wrote: > No.. the XO is with "security enabled".. > And the "developer key" from OLPC not works on Uruguayan XO.. Then, without repair skills and equipment, there is nothing further you can do. But I'm surprised the developer key

RE: Sad face

2011-09-09 Thread Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn
No.. the XO is with "security enabled".. And the "developer key" from OLPC not works on Uruguayan XO.. > Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 13:18:41 +1000 > From: qu...@laptop.org > To: alan...@hotmail.com > CC: devel@lists.laptop.org > Subject: Re: Sad face > &g

Re: Sad face

2011-09-09 Thread James Cameron
Can you reach the ok prompt? http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Ok -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Sad face

2011-09-09 Thread Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn
Hello! XO shows whether the message that the "time is incorrect" and show a sad face ... There is an easy way to fix it? I'm not have a root permissions.

Re: OFW sad face doesn't say why

2008-07-21 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 9:36 PM, John Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > security wizard at OLPC removed that recommendation from the Wiki > page, thus leading to your current troubles. If Mikus had followed your suggestion, we would not have found this (legitimate) bug. Thank you, Mikus. > It

Re: OFW sad face doesn't say why

2008-07-21 Thread Ivan Krstić
On Jul 21, 2008, at 8:38 AM, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote: > Sorry, but that's untrue, unless your definition of "nothing else" is > "political stuff". My definition of "nothing else" is "nothing else relevant to the claim the poster was making". John was quite aware of the changes to the "pol

Re: OFW sad face doesn't say why

2008-07-21 Thread Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
On 21.07.2008 11:53, Ivan Krstić wrote: > On Jul 19, 2008, at 9:36 PM, John Gilmore wrote: > >> But a certain former >> security wizard at OLPC removed that recommendation from the Wiki >> page, thus leading to your current troubles. >> > > This is untrue; please support your claims with di

Re: OFW sad face doesn't say why

2008-07-21 Thread Ivan Krstić
On Jul 19, 2008, at 9:36 PM, John Gilmore wrote: > But a certain former > security wizard at OLPC removed that recommendation from the Wiki > page, thus leading to your current troubles. This is untrue; please support your claims with diffs. As per:

Re: OFW sad face doesn't say why

2008-07-19 Thread John Gilmore
> >> mystery to me. That is why I use a "permanent" SD card, with my > >> develop.sig on that card -- then if I need to re-flash NAND I don't > >> have to worry about who/how puts a develop.sig file in NAND. Back near Christmas, I put text into the Activation and Developer Keys page recommending

Re: OFW sad face doesn't say why

2008-07-19 Thread John Watlington
While Startup_Diagnosis was the repository for that information in the past, the relevant bits for the vast majority of users/repairpeople have been moved to XO_Troubleshooting_PowerOn and I stopped linking to Startup_Diagnosis (which was left as a developer resource.) Much thanks to the authors

Re: OFW sad face doesn't say why

2008-07-19 Thread Mitch Bradley
C. Scott Ananian wrote: > On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 5:52 AM, Mikus Grinbergs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Yes, I am running a joyride build on that system. This whole >> business of "what indicators need to be placed where" is a complete >> mystery to me. That is why I use a "permanent" SD ca

Re: OFW sad face doesn't say why

2008-07-19 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 5:52 AM, Mikus Grinbergs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, I am running a joyride build on that system. This whole > business of "what indicators need to be placed where" is a complete > mystery to me. That is why I use a "permanent" SD card, with my > develop.sig on that

Re: OFW sad face doesn't say why

2008-07-19 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
Mitch wrote: > If you hold down the check key while booting, the firmware will give > additional information about the boot progress, in both iconic and > textual form. I did not realize that. Now that I went searching for this, saw it mentioned in the wiki on the 'XO_Troubleshooting_PowerOn' pa

Re: OFW sad face doesn't say why

2008-07-19 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
Scott wrote (regarding me booting with the wrong develop.sig on an SD card): > Do you normally use a developer key in order to boot -- ie, are you > running a joyride build on BB? Is the root problem here, perhaps, > that after OFW finds a develop.sig on the SD card which doesn't work, > it doesn

Re: OFW sad face doesn't say why

2008-07-18 Thread Mitch Bradley
about the boot progress, in both > iconic and textual form. > > I put in the sad face because I needed some way to indicate > failure. The published design specified what is supposed to > happen when everything works but didn't give detailed guidance for >

Re: OFW sad face doesn't say why

2008-07-18 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 2:57 PM, Mikus Grinbergs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Happened to put in laptop BB a SD card copied over from laptop AA. > Pushed power-on, laptop BB showed me a sad face and powered down. > > Figured out why -- that SD card had a directory on it called &

Re: OFW sad face doesn't say why

2008-07-18 Thread Eben Eliason
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 4:29 PM, Mitch Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you hold down the check key while booting, the firmware will give > additional information about the boot progress, in both iconic and textual > form. > > I put in the sad face because I needed

Re: OFW sad face doesn't say why

2008-07-18 Thread Mitch Bradley
If you hold down the check key while booting, the firmware will give additional information about the boot progress, in both iconic and textual form. I put in the sad face because I needed some way to indicate failure. The published design specified what is supposed to happen when everything

Re: OFW sad face doesn't say why

2008-07-18 Thread Eben Eliason
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 2:57 PM, Mikus Grinbergs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Happened to put in laptop BB a SD card copied over from laptop AA. > Pushed power-on, laptop BB showed me a sad face and powered down. > > Figured out why -- that SD card had a directory on it called &

OFW sad face doesn't say why

2008-07-18 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
Happened to put in laptop BB a SD card copied over from laptop AA. Pushed power-on, laptop BB showed me a sad face and powered down. Figured out why -- that SD card had a directory on it called /security, and in that directory there was a file called develop.sig. Since this file's conten