Screen dimming XO1 vs XO 1.5

2011-06-26 Thread Kevin Gordon
Folks:

On the XO 1 with the osxx builds and 870, with no power setting options
turned on, the screen still dims after a period of inactivity. The unit is
active, but just the screen has dimmed off.  Tapping a key or the trackpad
brings the screen back on, and everything else including wifi is still
active.  This is a really neat 'feature', as it mitigates some issues with
sleep/resume functions on the XO, while still saving an appreciable amount
of battery life.

However, on the XO 1.5, when, as well,  both items in power settings are
unchecked, the screen never dims.  As such, walking away from the machine
for 20 minutes or so is a pretty significant battery usage hit.  Any chance
at getting the 1.5 to behave like the 1.0? Even if this by design because
the power settings behave better on the 1.5, IMO auto dim of the screen
regardless of settings would be nice.

KG
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Re: Screen dimming XO1 vs XO 1.5

2011-06-26 Thread Daniel Drake
On 26 June 2011 14:55, Kevin Gordon kgordon...@gmail.com wrote:
 Folks:

 On the XO 1 with the osxx builds and 870, with no power setting options
 turned on, the screen still dims after a period of inactivity. The unit is
 active, but just the screen has dimmed off.

You might be talking about http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/10856 but I
don't quite understand your description. Are you talking about a
screen dim where the screen remains on and readable but with less
backlight intensity, or where the screen turns off and goes completely
black?

Thanks,
Daniel
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Re: Screen dimming XO1 vs XO 1.5

2011-06-26 Thread Kevin Gordon
Sorry, soon I will learn to use terminology correctly.  In this case, by dim
I meant instant off.  :-)

If I just walk away from an XO1 leaving it up, let's say, on the favourites
wheel, after about 15 mins the screen backlight goes off, not dark, not dim,
it goes completely off. This is with no power saving settings checked on.  I
dont think it's officially sleeping, or idle, since the 'activity' lights
are still flashing, and the unit appears to still be on the WIFI lan.
Tapping on a key brings the screen back on, and it would appear nothing else
is 'resuming', because the rest of the box responds instantly, and to me
still seems to have continued as active.  As, I said, this to me is a
'desired' behaviour.  This is on os23 and 870 on the XO1.

With no power saving setting checked on the XO 1.5 walking away for, o,
let's say, 24 hours,  upon return, the screen is still on at full
brightness.

I'm also now testing simultaneously with 860 on an XO-1  to see if this
screen-off is something 'new'.  20 minutes have already passed with no
'screen off' occurring, but stay tuned.  I'm going to leave it on, and go
out and cut the grass.  I'll then also simultaneously  try the same 4
scenarios in gnome upon return as well.  (XO 1.0/860, XO 1.0/870, XO
1.0/os23, XO1.5/870)

Cheers,


KG



On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote:

 On 26 June 2011 14:55, Kevin Gordon kgordon...@gmail.com wrote:
  Folks:
 
  On the XO 1 with the osxx builds and 870, with no power setting options
  turned on, the screen still dims after a period of inactivity. The unit
 is
  active, but just the screen has dimmed off.

 You might be talking about http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/10856 but I
 don't quite understand your description. Are you talking about a
 screen dim where the screen remains on and readable but with less
 backlight intensity, or where the screen turns off and goes completely
 black?

 Thanks,
 Daniel

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Re: Screen dimming XO1 vs XO 1.5

2011-06-26 Thread Daniel Drake
On 26 June 2011 15:22, Kevin Gordon kgordon...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sorry, soon I will learn to use terminology correctly.  In this case, by dim
 I meant instant off.  :-)

Yep, this is a known issue - but one that we treat only with low priority.

Auto screen poweroff on inactivity has been implemented on XO-1 but
not on XO-1.5.
The XO-1 implementation is a bit questionable, that's why it is not a
trivial task to include it for XO-1.5.

In future this may get easier, when we get our OLPC-specific display
controller driver into the kernel, and when we eventually move our
graphics driver into the kernel (KMS).

So, I wouldn't worry about digging into this. Here is a relevant
ticket you could track: http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9710

Thanks,
Daniel
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Re: Screen dimming XO1 vs XO 1.5

2011-06-26 Thread Paul Fox
daniel wrote:
  On 26 June 2011 15:22, Kevin Gordon kgordon...@gmail.com wrote:
   Sorry, soon I will learn to use terminology correctly.  In this case, by 
   dim
   I meant instant off.  :-)
  
  Yep, this is a known issue - but one that we treat only with low priority.
  
  Auto screen poweroff on inactivity has been implemented on XO-1 but
  not on XO-1.5.

given you referred to #9710, i'm assuming you think kevin is seeing
DPMS.  did we reenable DPMS on XO-1?  i hadn't realized that.  i've
recommended keeping it off for some time, because it fights with powerd,
but maybe you've fixed that.

  The XO-1 implementation is a bit questionable, that's why it is not a
  trivial task to include it for XO-1.5.

equivalent functionality would be trivial, with a new checkbox to
reconfigure powerd to allow dimming/blanking the screen but prevent sleeping.
this would work on both platforms.

paul

  
  In future this may get easier, when we get our OLPC-specific display
  controller driver into the kernel, and when we eventually move our
  graphics driver into the kernel (KMS).
  
  So, I wouldn't worry about digging into this. Here is a relevant
  ticket you could track: http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9710
  
  Thanks,
  Daniel
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