Hi NoiseEHC, I agree that the key problem is communication of decisions more than what decisions are being made.
Several people have said that recently (e.g. localization team recently made the same point). I hope we can address this at the high level with an agreed process that include milestones for when and how we communicate release status. Scott suggested (ironically on an internal thread) that we use the Fedora process. I put his comment on the talk page of the process home: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Talk:Release_Process_Home I'll try to flesh out the milestones and key communication steps ASAP. More comments on milestones and communication points welcome. However, that wont address your need for a more granular communication of technical design decisions. People could try to communicate all of those decisions here but that can be a flood of e-mail. The only other thing I can think of is for you to ask for a final call when you need an answer. Is that viable? Any other suggestions? We need to get better at settling threads to a conclusion. Sounds like this thread was discussed but never closed. I encourage people to ask for consensus and then record a decision. The most important aspect is to say what decision has been reached. If people still object strongly you can revise as needed or in the worst case objectors can decide not to participate. Regardless, we need to communicate the current working decisions so everyone is on the same page. HTHs. We could dig deeper in to this specific example if you think that will help teach everyone better communication strategies in the future. You have been a great contributor for many months. We need more people like you in the project so I hope we can keep you happy and show that others like you will be happy participating. Thanks, Greg S Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 09:19:52 +0200 From: NoiseEHC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Inappropriate use of private meetings & lists. To: OLPC Devel <devel@lists.laptop.org> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowecd > > > > There are top-down decisions being made by a few people that drive the > > direction of OLPC. These decisions are not waiting for consensus, and > > they are made by a small number of people. I don't believe this is > > going to change (at least not in the short term). > > I, personally, do not care who makes decisions, as long as he is smart and makes "good" decisions. The problem is that usually I am not notified of such decisions. For example, the move from 32 bit to 16 bit frame buffer just happened silently. One day people debated its merits on this list without reaching any conclusions. Some months later it was 16 bit. Nobody told it. A similar thing is that I am trying to get an answer to the question whether the XO image will be moved to LZO compression or not when we will be rebased to F9. The reason is that I am currently tuning the LZO decompression code and want to know whether this effort is moot or not. Most likely this was already decided by somebody, and frankly I am not qualified enough to debate this decision, I just want to know what it is. Note that I had to reply all to this message and then delete all recipients and then replace CC devel with TO devel. The reason is that this devel list is not set up that the reply-to would be the devel list, and if I do not delete others then the conversation often slips outside devel. See, even the main mailing list is configured wrong. _______________________________________________ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel