Re: Sugar in a chroot?
On Tue, 2013-08-06 at 21:37 -0700, Sameer Verma wrote: On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 7:18 PM, Chris Ball ch...@printf.net wrote: Hi, On Wed, Aug 07 2013, Sameer Verma wrote: 2) If we can run Android on the XO-4, then Fedora/Sugar can run in a chroot. That gives us Sugar and Android on the XO-4. Well, if it was that easy, we'd all be running Ubuntu desktops on our Android phones already, right? The graphics system gets in the way -- you can't run X on top of Android, yet Gtk depends on X, and Sugar depends on Gtk. Thanks. I've been running Debian on a Android phone, but I access GNOME over VNC from a different computer. Wonder if a VNC viewer on the Android phone itself would show me the UI. Hi Sameer, There is also: https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdid=au.com.darkside.XServer however I have not tried it and have no idea how complete it is. Cheers, Andrew. -- andrew (AT) morphoss (DOT) com +64 (2) 7233 2426 Reality is just a convenient measure of complexity. -- Alvy Ray Smith signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Sugar in a chroot?
I've been looking closely at Ubuntu on Android (different from the Ubuntu Touch) and other projects that run Linux in a chroot on Android. http://linuxonandroid.org/ 1) Given that the XO-4 is a dual core ARM, how hard would it be to run Android on it? (I sincerely apologize for the cruel Apr 1 joke earlier this year https://bhagmalpur.wordpress.com/2013/04/01/android-on-the-olpc-xo-4-touch/) 2) If we can run Android on the XO-4, then Fedora/Sugar can run in a chroot. That gives us Sugar and Android on the XO-4. I'm fairly certain others have thought of this, but I'd like to know how far we've gotten down this path, if at all. cheers, Sameer ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Sugar in a chroot?
On Tue, 2013-08-06 at 17:58 -0700, Sameer Verma wrote: I've been looking closely at Ubuntu on Android (different from the Ubuntu Touch) and other projects that run Linux in a chroot on Android. http://linuxonandroid.org/ 1) Given that the XO-4 is a dual core ARM, how hard would it be to run Android on it? (I sincerely apologize for the cruel Apr 1 joke earlier this year https://bhagmalpur.wordpress.com/2013/04/01/android-on-the-olpc-xo-4-touch/) 2) If we can run Android on the XO-4, then Fedora/Sugar can run in a chroot. That gives us Sugar and Android on the XO-4. I guess that running *that* in a chroot on a standard XO-4 can be next years April 1st joke :-) I'm fairly certain others have thought of this, but I'd like to know how far we've gotten down this path, if at all. There are definitely investigations going on with regard to running Android on the XO-4. Consequential questions are things like: * Which version of Android? * Which Linux kernel version? Marvell have done some work to support Android 4.0 (ICS) on the MMP3 chip used in the XO-4 using the 3.0 Linux kernel (standard for ICS) but I would rather see a more recent version. Most of the Android customisations to the Linux kernel got merged back in across the 3.3 through 3.8 series', and with 3.10 being declared the new LTS version I would not be surprised to see that used for Key Lime Pie. One big sucky problem is that the multi-core support from Marvell is *only* present in that one 3.0 tree, and it hasn't made it upstream. So yeah: investigation continues... Cheers, Andrew. -- Andrew McMillan, VP Software, One Laptop per Child Association Inc. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Sugar in a chroot?
Hi, On Wed, Aug 07 2013, Sameer Verma wrote: 2) If we can run Android on the XO-4, then Fedora/Sugar can run in a chroot. That gives us Sugar and Android on the XO-4. Well, if it was that easy, we'd all be running Ubuntu desktops on our Android phones already, right? The graphics system gets in the way -- you can't run X on top of Android, yet Gtk depends on X, and Sugar depends on Gtk. - Chris. -- Chris Ball ch...@printf.net http://printf.net/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Sugar in a chroot?
On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 7:18 PM, Chris Ball ch...@printf.net wrote: Hi, On Wed, Aug 07 2013, Sameer Verma wrote: 2) If we can run Android on the XO-4, then Fedora/Sugar can run in a chroot. That gives us Sugar and Android on the XO-4. Well, if it was that easy, we'd all be running Ubuntu desktops on our Android phones already, right? The graphics system gets in the way -- you can't run X on top of Android, yet Gtk depends on X, and Sugar depends on Gtk. Thanks. I've been running Debian on a Android phone, but I access GNOME over VNC from a different computer. Wonder if a VNC viewer on the Android phone itself would show me the UI. cheers, Sameer - Chris. -- Chris Ball ch...@printf.net http://printf.net/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Sugar in a chroot?
On Tue, 2013-08-06 at 21:37 -0700, Sameer Verma wrote: On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 7:18 PM, Chris Ball ch...@printf.net wrote: Hi, On Wed, Aug 07 2013, Sameer Verma wrote: 2) If we can run Android on the XO-4, then Fedora/Sugar can run in a chroot. That gives us Sugar and Android on the XO-4. Well, if it was that easy, we'd all be running Ubuntu desktops on our Android phones already, right? The graphics system gets in the way -- you can't run X on top of Android, yet Gtk depends on X, and Sugar depends on Gtk. Thanks. I've been running Debian on a Android phone, but I access GNOME over VNC from a different computer. Wonder if a VNC viewer on the Android phone itself would show me the UI. Think connecting to the loopback (lo) address should work if the vnc service is bound to that address. Jerry ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
