Re: Touch pads

2008-11-26 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 26.11.2008, at 04:18, Ton van Overbeek wrote: Note that the Embedded Controller firmware version is also important. I suppose there are still very many XOs out in the field with the original firmware. Since Q2E18(?) there was a change causing many more mouse packets to be delivered to the

Re: Touch pads

2008-11-26 Thread pgf
ton van overbeek wrote: Note that the Embedded Controller firmware version is also important. I suppose there are still very many XOs out in the field with the original firmware. Since Q2E18(?) there was a change causing many more original? the firmware gets updated when you update the

Re: Touch pads

2008-11-25 Thread Bryan Berry
From: David Leeming [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Touch pads To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Some feedback on touch pads. I returned to the PNG trials school of Giare last week to do some training, and noticed several of the XO

Re: Touch pads

2008-11-25 Thread quozl
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 02:42:42PM +0545, Bryan Berry wrote: One important point, make sure you hit the Fn key last when you do the 4-finger salute. Agreed. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Four_finger_salute -- James Cameronmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://quozl.netrek.org/

Re: Touch pads

2008-11-25 Thread Richard A. Smith
Bryan Berry wrote: David Leeming Solomon Islands, South Pacific We have consistently had similar problems in Nepal. I think it is a hardware problem. The core of the problem has yet to be identified but it certainly has hardware aspects. Here at 1cc we still don't have many units

Re: Touch pads

2008-11-25 Thread Ties Stuij
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 2:40 AM, Richard A. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bryan Berry wrote: Here at 1cc we still don't have many units that have chronic symptoms to test with. Oh really? I've seen trouble with almost any machine I touched around here in Nepal. Not that it happens every time,

RE: Touch pads

2008-11-25 Thread David Leeming
: Touch pads On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 2:40 AM, Richard A. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bryan Berry wrote: Here at 1cc we still don't have many units that have chronic symptoms to test with. Oh really? I've seen trouble with almost any machine I touched around here in Nepal. Not that it happens

RE: Touch pads

2008-11-25 Thread david
Islands -Original Message- From: Ties Stuij [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 26 November 2008 7:34 a.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Bryan Berry; David Leeming PFnet; OLPC Developer's List Subject: Re: Touch pads On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 2:40 AM, Richard A. Smith [EMAIL

Re: Touch pads

2008-11-25 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 8:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the problem is that if they can't duplicate the problem they can't fix it (they can change things, but they have no way of knowing if it fixes the problem or not) Well, right now I'm in a rather hot and humid location (Buenos Aires,

Re: Touch pads

2008-11-25 Thread Joachim Pedersen
I've seen this as an increasing problem on my personal XO, which gets quite a bit of heavy use, as evidenced by the some what polished area of the touchpad, ringed with brownish dirt. As we've reported before, it also seems to get worse when the machines get dusty, and fat/sweaty fingers don't

Re: Touch pads

2008-11-25 Thread Ben Wiley Sittler
not sure whether this is the same bug/limitation, but i have noticed the touchpad goes haywire when my daughter uses it with a bit of food on her fingers (obviously i try to avoid letting this happen, but sometimes it does anyhow...) i just tried to simulate this. as a test i used an eyedropper

Re: Touch pads

2008-11-25 Thread Richard A. Smith
Ties Stuij wrote: If you do do have laptops that have the problem consistently we might want to try and do some sort of swap. I wouldn't go there... Sorry, not to rub it in,.. but.. yea, well a bit actually. This is a very, VERY big and very known (hardware) bug. And if it's still not

Re: Touch pads

2008-11-25 Thread Deepak Saxena
On Nov 25 2008, at 18:13, Richard A. Smith was caught saying: Touchpad problems are listed in many deployments. Our biggest hurdle to fixing it having reliable way to duplicate the problem. It seems to happen lots out in the wild its very hard to reproduce on demand and its pretty rare

Re: Touch pads

2008-11-25 Thread Richard A. Smith
Ben Wiley Sittler wrote: i just tried to simulate this. as a test i used an eyedropper to put 0.5ml of tapwater onto the touchpad. suddenly the entire vertical strip of trackpad containing Foreign material on all non multi-touch pads causes problems. Drops of liquid break every single

Re: Touch pads

2008-11-25 Thread Richard A. Smith
Deepak Saxena wrote: Can we get some of the new touchpad laptops out to locations that have reported issues due to heat/moisture to see how they respond? It would good to get some data and fix any issues before we roll these out en masse. Perhaps. I'll have to check with wad and see if we

Re: Touch pads

2008-11-25 Thread Daniel Drake
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 9:34 PM, Ties Stuij [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 2:40 AM, Richard A. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bryan Berry wrote: Here at 1cc we still don't have many units that have chronic symptoms to test with. Oh really? I've seen trouble with almost any

Re: Touch pads

2008-11-25 Thread Jameson Chema Quinn
I'm here in Guatemala, and I see it to the point where it is a serious problem. This is an interesting data point, because it is more humid than hot here - average temperature around 21C but average humidity in the 70s or so -

RE: Touch pads

2008-11-25 Thread David Leeming
]; David Leeming PFnet; Bryan Berry; OLPC Developer's List Subject: Re: Touch pads On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 9:34 PM, Ties Stuij [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 2:40 AM, Richard A. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bryan Berry wrote: Here at 1cc we still don't have many units

Re: Touch pads

2008-11-25 Thread Ton van Overbeek
Note that the Embedded Controller firmware version is also important. I suppose there are still very many XOs out in the field with the original firmware. Since Q2E18(?) there was a change causing many more mouse packets to be delivered to the CPU. Also there was a change in mouse mode between

Touch pads

2008-11-24 Thread David Leeming
Some feedback on touch pads. I returned to the PNG trials school of Giare last week to do some training, and noticed several of the XO-1s (received in June 08) and running version 8.2 suffering very badly from the touchpad problem. One boy's laptop was almost unusable. We tried chalk, the 4 finger