Re: Using XO 1.0 battery to feed external circuit board

2011-10-10 Thread Yannis Kaskamanidis
Is there anyone who can make a custom release which will include Greek
language, or there is a tutorial for those who want to make it by their own?

Yannis
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Re: Using XO 1.0 battery to feed external circuit board

2011-10-10 Thread Chris Leonard
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 2:20 AM, Yannis Kaskamanidis kiola...@gmail.comwrote:

 Is there anyone who can make a custom release which will include Greek
 language, or there is a tutorial for those who want to make it by their own?

 Yannis


It is pretty well documented and worth experimenting with to learn more
about it.

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OS_Builder

If you require a signed build, you should probably discuss it with Daniel
Drake.

cjl
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Using XO 1.0 battery to feed external circuit board

2011-10-09 Thread Matías Poloni
Is there any possibility to use the battery of the XO 1.0 to feed an
external circuit with 12V?

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Re: Using XO 1.0 battery to feed external circuit board

2011-10-09 Thread forster
 Is there any possibility to use the battery of the XO 1.0 to feed an
 external circuit with 12V?

You can get 5V from the USB socket, then build a 5V - 12V converter?

Tony
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Re: Using XO 1.0 battery to feed external circuit board

2011-10-09 Thread James Cameron
On Sat, Oct 01, 2011 at 04:25:36PM -0300, Mat?as Poloni wrote:
 Is there any possibility to use the battery of the XO 1.0 to feed an
 external circuit with 12V?

You probably mean an XO-1, which uses the same battery as XO-1.5 and
XO-1.75.  There's no such thing as an XO 1.0.

Yes, the battery can feed an external circuit directly if it is not
feeding the XO, but the battery capacity will begin to diverge from
actual state of charge, and that may cause unexpected shutdown.

Therefore I do not recommend you use the battery to feed an external
circuit directly.

No, the battery cannot provide 12V alone, the battery voltage is too
low, but a DC/DC converter can be added.

No, the XO-1 does not provide 12V output, but does provide 5V output via
the USB ports.

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Re: Using XO 1.0 battery to feed external circuit board

2011-10-09 Thread Yannis Kaskamanidis
How can we include Greek language in every new release. Can someone help me
by describing the process of integration? We use XO's in my classroom, but
without Greek.

Yannis
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Re: Using XO 1.0 battery to feed external circuit board

2011-10-09 Thread Chris Leonard
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 1:04 AM, Yannis Kaskamanidis kiola...@gmail.comwrote:

 How can we include Greek language in every new release. Can someone help me
 by describing the process of integration? We use XO's in my classroom, but
 without Greek.


Dear Yannis,

Per Daniel Drake's e-mail of Feb 4 2011

http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2011-February/031016.html

There is a list of languages included in OLPC builds by default.  (German
was added to that list by request).

That e-mail also points out that other langs can be added by request
(although Daniel would have to make that call).

How big is the Greek deployment?  That might help influence the decision.

In any event, builds supporting additional languages can always be generated
via the OS Builder toolkit chain and even signed by OLPC for deployment on
locked XOs as a point release if there is sufficient justification to do
so.

I am personally supportive of the inclusion of Greek by default, if only
because the Greek L10n team has always demonstrated exemplary diligence in
keeping up with their strings.

However, it is worth remembering that it is essential to make tradeoffs
between the set of included languages in stock builds (generally those
with larger deployments) and the image sizes of the builds.  It is a
testament to the success of the L10n effort that OLPC builds can no longer
afford to include all of the L10n strings that are available.

I believe that the advances made in developing the OS Builder tool chain
makes it far less important whether or not a given language is included in a
stock build, as custom point release builds are much easier to generate,
and often will be far preferable for a given deployment as tehy can be made
to include specific content as well.

cjl
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Re: Using XO 1.0 battery to feed external circuit board

2011-10-09 Thread Chris Leonard
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 1:30 AM, Chris Leonard cjlhomeaddr...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 1:04 AM, Yannis Kaskamanidis 
 kiola...@gmail.comwrote:

 How can we include Greek language in every new release. Can someone help
 me by describing the process of integration? We use XO's in my classroom,
 but without Greek.


 Dear Yannis,

 Per Daniel Drake's e-mail of Feb 4 2011

 http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2011-February/031016.html

 There is a list of languages included in OLPC builds by default.  (German
 was added to that list by request).

 That e-mail also points out that other langs can be added by request
 (although Daniel would have to make that call).

 How big is the Greek deployment?  That might help influence the decision.

 In any event, builds supporting additional languages can always be
 generated via the OS Builder toolkit chain and even signed by OLPC for
 deployment on locked XOs as a point release if there is sufficient
 justification to do so.

 I am personally supportive of the inclusion of Greek by default, if only
 because the Greek L10n team has always demonstrated exemplary diligence in
 keeping up with their strings.

 However, it is worth remembering that it is essential to make tradeoffs
 between the set of included languages in stock builds (generally those
 with larger deployments) and the image sizes of the builds.  It is a
 testament to the success of the L10n effort that OLPC builds can no longer
 afford to include all of the L10n strings that are available.

 I believe that the advances made in developing the OS Builder tool chain
 makes it far less important whether or not a given language is included in a
 stock build, as custom point release builds are much easier to generate,
 and often will be far preferable for a given deployment as tehy can be made
 to include specific content as well.

 cjl


I guess the point I really want to make is that inclusion in the stock
image has been made far less important because OLPC (via the OS Builder tool
chain)  has made a significant technological transition from a
one-size-fits-all build philosophy (be in the stock build or lose out)
to a mass customization approach, where language-specific builds (which
will not include all of those languages you do not need, leaving more free
space) are much simpler to generate.

In some sense the purpose of the stock builds is to give large deployments
a technology baseline to test and consider for adoption, but the actually
deployed build is much more likely to be a somewhat customized OS
Builder-generated point release that is more specifically targeted to a
given deployment's requirements.  The Greek deployment should seek to take
advantage of this relatively newly introduced flexibility rather than being
too concerned about being included in the stock build.

cjl
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