Re: Video chat activity (was: Re: C and Sugar/GTK)
On Mar 22, 2012 4:32 PM, Alex Waterman imnotlisten...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Peter, After looking at Empathy and the empathy-gtk library, it would seem that its a dead project as far as an installable libempathy-gtk.so type thing. I asked the telepathy mailing list about this and they said that it is now just statically compiled into Empathy. They recommended proceeding with telepathy and/or folks. With that said, it may be worth making a new version of empathy with a sugar UI or something. Maybe the code in libemapthy-gtk will work in such a way. Definitely worth pursuing, though. It may well be a dead end, it might be a good start and they may accept patches to split out the lib or maybe we could somehow add a sugar ux which could be a subpackage. Ultimately it might be a dead end, a place to start or useful, I suggested it as it does all we'd like and would allow seamless movement between Sugar and GNOME so might have made dev and ongoing maintenance easier Peter Best Regards, Alex -- Alex Waterman - Computer Engineer (215-896-4920) imnotlisten...@gmail.com amw2...@rit.edu Support or create OpenSource ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Video chat activity (was: Re: C and Sugar/GTK)
Hi Peter, After looking at Empathy and the empathy-gtk library, it would seem that its a dead project as far as an installable libempathy-gtk.so type thing. I asked the telepathy mailing list about this and they said that it is now just statically compiled into Empathy. They recommended proceeding with telepathy and/or folks. With that said, it may be worth making a new version of empathy with a sugar UI or something. Maybe the code in libemapthy-gtk will work in such a way. Definitely worth pursuing, though. Best Regards, Alex -- Alex Waterman - Computer Engineer (215-896-4920) imnotlisten...@gmail.com amw2...@rit.edu Support or create OpenSource ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Video chat activity (was: Re: C and Sugar/GTK)
alex wrote: Hi Peter, After looking at Empathy and the empathy-gtk library, it would seem that its a dead project as far as an installable libempathy-gtk.so type thing. I asked the telepathy mailing list about this and they said that it is now just statically compiled into Empathy. They recommended proceeding with telepathy and/or folks. With that said, it may be worth making a new version of empathy with a sugar UI or something. Maybe the code in libemapthy-gtk will work in such a way. Definitely worth pursuing, though. what happens if you simply install and run the gnome version of empathy on an XO? that would seem like the first step. :-) (and i'm interested in hearing how it works!) paul =- paul fox, p...@laptop.org ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Video chat activity (was: Re: C and Sugar/GTK)
Hi Paul, what happens if you simply install and run the gnome version of empathy on an XO? that would seem like the first step. :-) (and i'm interested in hearing how it works!) Good question, I can't think of any reason why it wouldn't work providing the dependencies are also installed. When I get some more free time I will try to compile empathy and deps and let you know what happens. Best Regards, Aex -- Alex Waterman - Computer Engineer (215-896-4920) imnotlisten...@gmail.com amw2...@rit.edu Support or create OpenSource ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Video chat activity (was: Re: C and Sugar/GTK)
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 5:46 PM, Alex Waterman imnotlisten...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Paul, what happens if you simply install and run the gnome version of empathy on an XO? that would seem like the first step. :-) (and i'm interested in hearing how it works!) Good question, I can't think of any reason why it wouldn't work providing the dependencies are also installed. When I get some more free time I will try to compile empathy and deps and let you know what happens. you can install empathy with `sudo yum install empathy`. I bet it is already installed on your XO as it comes default on our images. FYI, gnome-shell's messaging interface is done via a D-Bus connection to empathy running in the background. -Jon ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Video chat activity (was: Re: C and Sugar/GTK)
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Jon Nettleton jon.nettle...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 5:46 PM, Alex Waterman imnotlisten...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Paul, what happens if you simply install and run the gnome version of empathy on an XO? that would seem like the first step. :-) (and i'm interested in hearing how it works!) Good question, I can't think of any reason why it wouldn't work providing the dependencies are also installed. When I get some more free time I will try to compile empathy and deps and let you know what happens. you can install empathy with `sudo yum install empathy`. I bet it is already installed on your XO as it comes default on our images. Ican confirm that empathy is on 883 XO-1 and XO 1.5 and on os31 XO1.75 default builds, and is available on the gnome side via the application/internet menu FYI, gnome-shell's messaging interface is done via a D-Bus connection to empathy running in the background. -Jon ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Video chat activity (was: Re: C and Sugar/GTK)
Hi Sascha, I have looked at one of the previous projects, OVC, and am working with one of the students who helped write it. I was not aware of the other projects so I will definitely take a look at them. I agree, fixing old code would be substantially easier than writing a new one from scratch. Alex -- Alex Waterman - Computer Engineer (215-896-4920) imnotlisten...@gmail.com amw2...@rit.edu Support or create OpenSource ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Video chat activity (was: Re: C and Sugar/GTK)
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 1:51 PM, Alex Waterman imnotlisten...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Sascha, I have looked at one of the previous projects, OVC, and am working with one of the students who helped write it. I was not aware of the other projects so I will definitely take a look at them. I agree, fixing old code would be substantially easier than writing a new one from scratch. Personally I believe the best way to move forward with a Voice/Video Conference Activity is to look at empathy and associated projects. I believe there was plans to produce a libempathy for reuse although I don't know the status of that. By using empathy/cheese and other components it would integrate with our current comms stack and allow sharing of things like account data and contacts as well as being transferable between gnome and sugar. Peter ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Video chat activity (was: Re: C and Sugar/GTK)
Hi Peter, Personally I believe the best way to move forward with a Voice/Video Conference Activity is to look at empathy and associated projects. I believe there was plans to produce a libempathy for reuse although I don't know the status of that. By using empathy/cheese and other components it would integrate with our current comms stack and allow sharing of things like account data and contacts as well as being transferable between gnome and sugar. I will take a look at the latest libempathy. I was looking at the dbus interface for interacting with sugar and it seems as though a video chat app could be written with telepathy as well. I will look at the previous projects sometime today and see what they do/use. I think if the previous projects are using telepathy, then its worth sticking with that, otherwise if they use libempathy, then I could update the code to use the latest empathy as a start. Alex -- Alex Waterman - Computer Engineer (215-896-4920) imnotlisten...@gmail.com amw2...@rit.edu Support or create OpenSource ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Video chat activity (was: Re: C and Sugar/GTK)
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 2:33 PM, Alex Waterman imnotlisten...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Peter, Personally I believe the best way to move forward with a Voice/Video Conference Activity is to look at empathy and associated projects. I believe there was plans to produce a libempathy for reuse although I don't know the status of that. By using empathy/cheese and other components it would integrate with our current comms stack and allow sharing of things like account data and contacts as well as being transferable between gnome and sugar. I will take a look at the latest libempathy. I was looking at the dbus interface for interacting with sugar and it seems as though a video chat app could be written with telepathy as well. I will look at the previous projects sometime today and see what they do/use. I think if the previous projects are using telepathy, then its worth sticking with that, otherwise if they use libempathy, then I could update the code to use the latest empathy as a start. Empathy uses telepathy and it would save you having to deal with the upper levels like glueing telepathy, gstreamer, account/contacts management and various inputs together. Basically libempathy sits on top of all that so you could use the guts of empathy and just implement the Sugar UX for it. Peter ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Video chat activity (was: Re: C and Sugar/GTK)
Hi Peter, Empathy uses telepathy and it would save you having to deal with the upper levels like glueing telepathy, gstreamer, account/contacts management and various inputs together. Basically libempathy sits on top of all that so you could use the guts of empathy and just implement the Sugar UX for it. That would be really nice and convenient. I will definitely look into that since that would save a huge amount of effort, to be sure. How much work is implementing a sugar UX? Alex -- Alex Waterman - Computer Engineer (215-896-4920) imnotlisten...@gmail.com amw2...@rit.edu Support or create OpenSource ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Video chat activity (was: Re: C and Sugar/GTK)
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Alex Waterman imnotlisten...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Peter, Empathy uses telepathy and it would save you having to deal with the upper levels like glueing telepathy, gstreamer, account/contacts management and various inputs together. Basically libempathy sits on top of all that so you could use the guts of empathy and just implement the Sugar UX for it. That would be really nice and convenient. I will definitely look into that since that would save a huge amount of effort, to be sure. How much work is implementing a sugar UX? That part is pretty cookie cutter. You inherit toolbars and a canvas from the Sugar activity class. FWIW, the Collabora guys wrote a video chat for Sugar back in 2007. I demoed it in Buenos Aires, connected to Boston. -walter Alex -- Alex Waterman - Computer Engineer (215-896-4920) imnotlisten...@gmail.com amw2...@rit.edu Support or create OpenSource ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Video chat activity (was: Re: C and Sugar/GTK)
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: FWIW, the Collabora guys wrote a video chat for Sugar back in 2007. I demoed it in Buenos Aires, connected to Boston. Where is that code?! I wanna! :-) cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Video chat activity
Hi, On Wed, Mar 21 2012, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: FWIW, the Collabora guys wrote a video chat for Sugar back in 2007. I demoed it in Buenos Aires, connected to Boston. Where is that code?! I wanna! :-) http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Video_Chat http://dev.laptop.org/git/projects/video-chat-activity It requires a jabber server and working routing between public IP addresses. - Chris. -- Chris Ball c...@laptop.org http://printf.net/ One Laptop Per Child ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Video chat activity (was: Re: C and Sugar/GTK)
Excerpts from Alex Waterman's message of 2012-03-20 17:59:39 +0100: I have been starting some work on a video chat activity for the XO which I would like to use C to develop. Have you looked at the existing Video Chat activity [1,4] already? Writing a video chat activity is (surprisingly?) a non-trivial task; there have been several (announced [2] and real [1,3,4]) prototypes so far, but nothing that can be used by deployments or individual users. It would be much more helpful to fix up the existing code [5] rather than starting yet another prototype that will get abandoned before it's ready for the masses. Is it possible to interface with sugar from C? If so, are there any tutorials describing the process? Others have already pointed out the best available resources. If you need further information, feel free to ask questions on sugar-devel [6]. Sascha [1] http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Video_Chat [2] message-id:8106d44e1002120323x5d110424q5e763aaaed50a...@mail.gmail.com http://www.mail-archive.com/sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org/msg12095.html [3] http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-April/013227.html [4] https://fedorahosted.org/OpenVideoChat/ [5] http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/OpenVideoChat.git [6] https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Mailing_Lists#Developer_Lists -- http://sascha.silbe.org/ http://www.infra-silbe.de/ signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [IAEP] Video Chat, Video Editing and VOIP activities for Sugar
On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 3:33 AM, satyaakam goswami satyaa...@gmail.com wrote: Old one http://cinelerra.org/about.php still , also can look at the distros like ubuntu studio . Cinelerra is a quirky beast, designed for high end hw, with lots of UI complexity, abundant unexplained segfaults and but it works for me developers. May be it can be turned into the opposite of what it's been for the last few years. But it does seem like you have better candidates these days... m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [IAEP] Video Chat, Video Editing and VOIP activities for Sugar
Probably not the best choice, but look into some of the AccessGrid work as well. If nothing else, it may give you ideas... http://www.accessgrid.org/ -- Ubuntu Linux DC LoCo Washington, DC http://dc.ubuntu-us.org/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Video Chat, Video Editing and VOIP activities for Sugar
On 15 Feb 2010, at 13:50, Martin Langhoff wrote: Cinelerra is a quirky beast, designed for high end hw, with lots of UI complexity, abundant unexplained segfaults and but it works for me developers. May be it can be turned into the opposite of what it's been for the last few years. But it does seem like you have better candidates these days... Here's an unlikely option... When I couldn't get cinelerra to work, back in the day, I ended up resorting to: http://lvempeg.sourceforge.net/ Which is pretty much unmaintained for the past 5 years, so far as I can tell, so probably no use here. On the other hand, it worked OK on the low spec hardware I had available at the time (which might be relevant) and the code seemed reasonably understandable... ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [IAEP] Video Chat, Video Editing and VOIP activities for Sugar
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 8:38 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta sayami...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Manusheel Gupta m...@laptop.org wrote: Dear friends, 6 developers working at SEETA will be spearheading the design and development of video chat, video editing and VOIP activities in Sugar starting Feb. 15. We have been trying to arrive at a decision on the approach to be followed - designing the application and writing the code from ground zero vs. porting an existing open source application to Sugar. i would call it cannibalizing from the existing pieces ;-) ,i think that's what you meant by Porting. We have been examining a number of open source applications, and believe that it will be easier to port the following applications to Sugar than reinventing the wheel - 1. Video Chat - Pidgin (http://www.pidgin.im/) 2. Video Editor - PiTiVi (http://www.pitivi.org/) For Video Editor, you may want to take a look at OpenShot (http://www.openshotvideo.com/). I tried it out a couple of weeks back and it seemed to be quite impressive as far a basic video editor goes. Old one http://cinelerra.org/about.php still , also can look at the distros like ubuntu studio . -Satya ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Video Chat, Video Editing and VOIP activities for Sugar
Dear friends, 6 developers working at SEETA http://seeta.in will be spearheading the design and development of video chat, video editing and VOIP activities in Sugar starting Feb. 15. We have been trying to arrive at a decision on the approach to be followed - designing the application and writing the code from ground zero vs. porting an existing open source application to Sugar. We have been examining a number of open source applications, and believe that it will be easier to port the following applications to Sugar than reinventing the wheel - 1. Video Chat - Pidgin (http://www.pidgin.im/) 2. Video Editor - PiTiVi (http://www.pitivi.org/) 3. VOIP activity - Shtoom (http://divmod.org/trac/wiki/ShtoomProject) Wish to have your feedback on issues, implementation strategies and external dependencies that we might have overlooked. Regards, Manu ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Video Chat, Video Editing and VOIP activities for Sugar
Manusheel Gupta wrote: Dear friends, 6 developers working at SEETA http://seeta.in will be spearheading the design and development of video chat, video editing and VOIP activities in Sugar starting Feb. 15. Great! 1. Video Chat - Pidgin (http://www.pidgin.im/) 3. VOIP activity - Shtoom (http://divmod.org/trac/wiki/ShtoomProject) I think you'd be better off starting from Empathy (http://live.gnome.org/Empathy), which already provides both features and is built on the same communications platform (Telepathy) that Sugar already uses. 2. Video Editor - PiTiVi (http://www.pitivi.org/) Yes. PiTiVi is the ideal starting point. Wish to have your feedback on issues, implementation strategies and external dependencies that we might have overlooked. Definitely talk to the Telepathy developers (on their mailing list and #telepathy on freenode). They are very helpful. --Ben signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [IAEP] Video Chat, Video Editing and VOIP activities for Sugar
Hi Manu, We have been examining a number of open source applications, and believe that it will be easier to port the following applications to Sugar than reinventing the wheel. 1. Video Chat - Pidgin This one's surprising, since the Sugar collaboration stack is based on Telepathy, and Pidgin isn't. Empathy would be a better base. Of course, it would also make sense to look at the Video Chat activity, even though it needs work. The Telepathy folks might be able to advise you on what its next steps should be, if you decide to work on it. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Video_Chat http://dev.laptop.org/git/projects/video-chat-activity http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-April/013227.html - Chris. -- Chris Ball c...@laptop.org One Laptop Per Child ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [IAEP] Video Chat, Video Editing and VOIP activities for Sugar
Hi, On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Manusheel Gupta m...@laptop.org wrote: Dear friends, 6 developers working at SEETA will be spearheading the design and development of video chat, video editing and VOIP activities in Sugar starting Feb. 15. We have been trying to arrive at a decision on the approach to be followed - designing the application and writing the code from ground zero vs. porting an existing open source application to Sugar. We have been examining a number of open source applications, and believe that it will be easier to port the following applications to Sugar than reinventing the wheel - 1. Video Chat - Pidgin (http://www.pidgin.im/) 2. Video Editor - PiTiVi (http://www.pitivi.org/) For Video Editor, you may want to take a look at OpenShot (http://www.openshotvideo.com/). I tried it out a couple of weeks back and it seemed to be quite impressive as far a basic video editor goes. Cheers, Sayamindu -- Sayamindu Dasgupta [http://sayamindu.randomink.org/ramblings] ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Video Chat
Ricardo, I do, and I'm going to repeat this test to collect more info. Regards, Joe --- At 11:57 AM 7/16/2008, Ricardo Carrano wrote: Guillaume, On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 11:51 AM, Guillaume Desmottes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le mercredi 16 juillet 2008 à 09:31 -0300, Ricardo Carrano a écrit : I am trying to install the Video Chat activity, in order to check #7511. Following instructions in: http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-April/013227.html Fetching the rpms from: http://people.collabora.co.uk/~cassidy/olpc-video-chat/ All the rpms installs ok but the last which fails on dependency for libtelepathy-glib.so.0. Where can I get this lib? I tried some obvious things, like yum install libtelepathy, but it didn't help. Humm this is weird. Which build are you using? Could you check what rpm -qa | telepathy returns ? It is candidate-708: telepathy-gabble-0.7.1-0.8.olpc2 telepathy-salut-0.2.3-1.olpc2 telepathy-filesystem-0.0.1-2.fc7 telepathy-glib-0.6.1-1.olpc2 This version is too old. telepathy-stream-engine requires at least telepathy-glib 0.7.6. You should try using Joyride. Ok, thanks! Mm, I just don't get how joe (Joe, are you listening to this?) reported that the video-chat activity saturates bandwidth (#7511) on build 708. Have you seen this ticket? Cheers! Ricardo ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Video Chat
Le mardi 15 juillet 2008 à 19:39 -0400, Ricardo Carrano a écrit : Hey! Hi, I am trying to install the Video Chat activity, in order to check #7511. Following instructions in: http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-April/013227.html Fetching the rpms from: http://people.collabora.co.uk/~cassidy/olpc-video-chat/ All the rpms installs ok but the last which fails on dependency for libtelepathy-glib.so.0. Where can I get this lib? I tried some obvious things, like yum install libtelepathy, but it didn't help. Humm this is weird. Which build are you using? Could you check what rpm -qa | telepathy returns ? G. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Video Chat
Le mercredi 16 juillet 2008 à 09:31 -0300, Ricardo Carrano a écrit : I am trying to install the Video Chat activity, in order to check #7511. Following instructions in: http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-April/013227.html Fetching the rpms from: http://people.collabora.co.uk/~cassidy/olpc-video-chat/ All the rpms installs ok but the last which fails on dependency for libtelepathy-glib.so.0. Where can I get this lib? I tried some obvious things, like yum install libtelepathy, but it didn't help. Humm this is weird. Which build are you using? Could you check what rpm -qa | telepathy returns ? It is candidate-708: telepathy-gabble-0.7.1-0.8.olpc2 telepathy-salut-0.2.3-1.olpc2 telepathy-filesystem-0.0.1-2.fc7 telepathy-glib-0.6.1-1.olpc2 This version is too old. telepathy-stream-engine requires at least telepathy-glib 0.7.6. You should try using Joyride. G. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Video Chat
Guillaume, On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 11:51 AM, Guillaume Desmottes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le mercredi 16 juillet 2008 à 09:31 -0300, Ricardo Carrano a écrit : I am trying to install the Video Chat activity, in order to check #7511. Following instructions in: http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-April/013227.html Fetching the rpms from: http://people.collabora.co.uk/~cassidy/olpc-video-chat/ All the rpms installs ok but the last which fails on dependency for libtelepathy-glib.so.0. Where can I get this lib? I tried some obvious things, like yum install libtelepathy, but it didn't help. Humm this is weird. Which build are you using? Could you check what rpm -qa | telepathy returns ? It is candidate-708: telepathy-gabble-0.7.1-0.8.olpc2 telepathy-salut-0.2.3-1.olpc2 telepathy-filesystem-0.0.1-2.fc7 telepathy-glib-0.6.1-1.olpc2 This version is too old. telepathy-stream-engine requires at least telepathy-glib 0.7.6. You should try using Joyride. Ok, thanks! Mm, I just don't get how joe (Joe, are you listening to this?) reported that the video-chat activity saturates bandwidth (#7511) on build 708. Have you seen this ticket? Cheers! Ricardo ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Video Chat
Hey Michael, So, according to http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7511#comment:3, Joe got a build from you to test (which he refers to as 'build 708'). In this build he was able to run the Video-Chat activity, which seems to me to be in early beta stage, and reports his findings (a crash) as a network problem (in the same #7511). Guillaume notes that the video-chat activity is supposed to run in joyride, since it needs a newer version of telepathy-glibs. I am trying to further investigate this, but I am confused on what exactly was used on the test. Would you recall what exactly is the build that Joe is testing? Thank you very much! Cheers! Ricardo On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Ricardo Carrano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Guillaume, On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 11:51 AM, Guillaume Desmottes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le mercredi 16 juillet 2008 à 09:31 -0300, Ricardo Carrano a écrit : I am trying to install the Video Chat activity, in order to check #7511. Following instructions in: http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-April/013227.html Fetching the rpms from: http://people.collabora.co.uk/~cassidy/olpc-video-chat/ All the rpms installs ok but the last which fails on dependency for libtelepathy-glib.so.0. Where can I get this lib? I tried some obvious things, like yum install libtelepathy, but it didn't help. Humm this is weird. Which build are you using? Could you check what rpm -qa | telepathy returns ? It is candidate-708: telepathy-gabble-0.7.1-0.8.olpc2 telepathy-salut-0.2.3-1.olpc2 telepathy-filesystem-0.0.1-2.fc7 telepathy-glib-0.6.1-1.olpc2 This version is too old. telepathy-stream-engine requires at least telepathy-glib 0.7.6. You should try using Joyride. Ok, thanks! Mm, I just don't get how joe (Joe, are you listening to this?) reported that the video-chat activity saturates bandwidth (#7511) on build 708. Have you seen this ticket? Cheers! Ricardo ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Video Chat
Hi Ricardo, BTW, I don't know for sure what element in particular is responsible for results I have observed: networking, fedora, sugar, activity... Regards, Joe At 07:10 PM 7/16/2008, Ricardo Carrano wrote: Hey Michael, So, according to http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7511#comment:3, Joe got a build from you to test (which he refers to as 'build 708'). In this build he was able to run the Video-Chat activity, which seems to me to be in early beta stage, and reports his findings (a crash) as a network problem (in the same #7511). Guillaume notes that the video-chat activity is supposed to run in joyride, since it needs a newer version of telepathy-glibs. I am trying to further investigate this, but I am confused on what exactly was used on the test. Would you recall what exactly is the build that Joe is testing? Thank you very much! Cheers! Ricardo On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Ricardo Carrano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Guillaume, On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 11:51 AM, Guillaume Desmottes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le mercredi 16 juillet 2008 à 09:31 -0300, Ricardo Carrano a écrit : I am trying to install the Video Chat activity, in order to check #7511. Following instructions in: http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-April/013227.html Fetching the rpms from: http://people.collabora.co.uk/~cassidy/olpc-video-chat/ All the rpms installs ok but the last which fails on dependency for libtelepathy-glib.so.0. Where can I get this lib? I tried some obvious things, like yum install libtelepathy, but it didn't help. Humm this is weird. Which build are you using? Could you check what rpm -qa | telepathy returns ? It is candidate-708: telepathy-gabble-0.7.1-0.8.olpc2 telepathy-salut-0.2.3-1.olpc2 telepathy-filesystem-0.0.1-2.fc7 telepathy-glib-0.6.1-1.olpc2 This version is too old. telepathy-stream-engine requires at least telepathy-glib 0.7.6. You should try using Joyride. Ok, thanks! Mm, I just don't get how joe (Joe, are you listening to this?) reported that the video-chat activity saturates bandwidth (#7511) on build 708. Have you seen this ticket? Cheers! Ricardo ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Video Chat
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 07:10:23PM -0400, Ricardo Carrano wrote: I am trying to further investigate this, but I am confused on what exactly was used on the test. Would you recall what exactly is the build that Joe is testing? http://download.laptop.org/xo-1/custom/g1g1/en-708-1/ seems to me to be the most likely candidate. Michael ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Video Chat
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 9:10 PM, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 07:10:23PM -0400, Ricardo Carrano wrote: I am trying to further investigate this, but I am confused on what exactly was used on the test. Would you recall what exactly is the build that Joe is testing? http://download.laptop.org/xo-1/custom/g1g1/en-708-1/ seems to me to be the most likely candidate. Well, that's all we got, so I am going for it. Thank you! Michael ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Video Chat
Hey! I am trying to install the Video Chat activity, in order to check #7511. Following instructions in: http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-April/013227.html Fetching the rpms from: http://people.collabora.co.uk/~cassidy/olpc-video-chat/ All the rpms installs ok but the last which fails on dependency for libtelepathy-glib.so.0. Where can I get this lib? I tried some obvious things, like yum install libtelepathy, but it didn't help. Though the instructions say that this activity should be installed on a joyride build, I am under the impression that we can run this on candidate-708, because of what is reported in #7511. Any ideas? Thanks in advance! Cheers! Ricardo ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Phone-in # for mini-conference; video chat info, too.
On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 4:15 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Phone-in info: From the United States 866-213-2185 From Outside the United States 1-609-454-9914 accesscode: 8069698 I'll try to keep this open during all the talks. We may have to mute the speaker on our end if there's too much background noise. We'll also be on #olpc-devel on irc.oftc.net. If you'd like to make a comment and don't seem to be being heard in-room, a brief msg on #olpc-devel should suffice to ensure you get the floor. Noah's setting up a groovy flash video streaming server thingy, so you shouldn't need anything but a web browser flash to view the real-time video. Will the live stream be Gnash-compatible? But you might want to download VLC tonight just to be safe ( http://www.videolan.org/ ). We'll transcode to Ogg Theora afterwards, of course, and post the files. --scott -- ( http://cscott.net/ ) ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Edward Cherlin End Poverty at a Profit by teaching children business http://www.EarthTreasury.org/ The best way to predict the future is to invent it.--Alan Kay ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel