Re: Video chat activity (was: Re: C and Sugar/GTK)

2012-03-23 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mar 22, 2012 4:32 PM, Alex Waterman imnotlisten...@gmail.com wrote:


 Hi Peter,

 After looking at Empathy and the empathy-gtk library, it would seem that
its a dead project as far as an installable libempathy-gtk.so type thing. I
asked the telepathy mailing list about this and they said that it is now
just statically compiled into Empathy. They recommended proceeding with
telepathy and/or folks.

 With that said, it may be worth making a new version of empathy with a
sugar UI or something. Maybe the code in libemapthy-gtk will work in  such
a way. Definitely worth pursuing, though.

It may well be a dead end, it might be a good start and they may accept
patches to split out the lib or maybe we could somehow add a sugar ux which
could be a subpackage. Ultimately it might be a dead end, a place to start
or useful, I suggested it as it does all we'd like and would allow seamless
movement between Sugar and GNOME so might have made dev and ongoing
maintenance easier

Peter

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Re: Video chat activity (was: Re: C and Sugar/GTK)

2012-03-22 Thread Alex Waterman
Hi Peter,

After looking at Empathy and the empathy-gtk library, it would seem that
its a dead project as far as an installable libempathy-gtk.so type thing. I
asked the telepathy mailing list about this and they said that it is now
just statically compiled into Empathy. They recommended proceeding with
telepathy and/or folks.

With that said, it may be worth making a new version of empathy with a
sugar UI or something. Maybe the code in libemapthy-gtk will work in  such
a way. Definitely worth pursuing, though.

Best Regards,
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Re: Video chat activity (was: Re: C and Sugar/GTK)

2012-03-22 Thread Paul Fox
alex wrote:
  Hi Peter,
  
  After looking at Empathy and the empathy-gtk library, it would seem that
  its a dead project as far as an installable libempathy-gtk.so type thing. I
  asked the telepathy mailing list about this and they said that it is now
  just statically compiled into Empathy. They recommended proceeding with
  telepathy and/or folks.
  
  With that said, it may be worth making a new version of empathy with a
  sugar UI or something. Maybe the code in libemapthy-gtk will work in  such
  a way. Definitely worth pursuing, though.

what happens if you simply install and run the gnome version of empathy
on an XO?  that would seem like the first step.  :-)  (and i'm interested
in hearing how it works!)

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Re: Video chat activity (was: Re: C and Sugar/GTK)

2012-03-22 Thread Alex Waterman
Hi Paul,


 what happens if you simply install and run the gnome version of empathy
 on an XO?  that would seem like the first step.  :-)  (and i'm interested
 in hearing how it works!)


Good question, I can't think of any reason why it wouldn't work providing
the dependencies are also installed. When I get some more free time I will
try to compile empathy and deps and let you know what happens.

Best Regards,
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Re: Video chat activity (was: Re: C and Sugar/GTK)

2012-03-22 Thread Jon Nettleton
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 5:46 PM, Alex Waterman imnotlisten...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Paul,


 what happens if you simply install and run the gnome version of empathy
 on an XO?  that would seem like the first step.  :-)  (and i'm interested
 in hearing how it works!)


 Good question, I can't think of any reason why it wouldn't work providing
 the dependencies are also installed. When I get some more free time I will
 try to compile empathy and deps and let you know what happens.


you can install empathy with `sudo yum install empathy`.  I bet it is
already installed on your XO as it comes default on our images.

FYI, gnome-shell's messaging interface is done via a D-Bus connection
to empathy running in the background.

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Re: Video chat activity (was: Re: C and Sugar/GTK)

2012-03-22 Thread Kevin Gordon
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Jon Nettleton jon.nettle...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 5:46 PM, Alex Waterman imnotlisten...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Hi Paul,
 
 
  what happens if you simply install and run the gnome version of empathy
  on an XO?  that would seem like the first step.  :-)  (and i'm
 interested
  in hearing how it works!)
 
 
  Good question, I can't think of any reason why it wouldn't work providing
  the dependencies are also installed. When I get some more free time I
 will
  try to compile empathy and deps and let you know what happens.
 

 you can install empathy with `sudo yum install empathy`.  I bet it is
 already installed on your XO as it comes default on our images.


Ican confirm that empathy is on 883 XO-1 and XO 1.5 and on os31 XO1.75
default builds, and is available on the gnome side via the
application/internet menu


 FYI, gnome-shell's messaging interface is done via a D-Bus connection
 to empathy running in the background.

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Re: Video chat activity (was: Re: C and Sugar/GTK)

2012-03-21 Thread Alex Waterman
Hi Sascha,

I have looked at one of the previous projects, OVC, and am working with one
of the students who helped write it. I was not aware of the other projects
so I will definitely take a look at them. I agree, fixing old code would be
substantially easier than writing a new one from scratch.

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Re: Video chat activity (was: Re: C and Sugar/GTK)

2012-03-21 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 1:51 PM, Alex Waterman imnotlisten...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Sascha,

 I have looked at one of the previous projects, OVC, and am working with one
 of the students who helped write it. I was not aware of the other projects
 so I will definitely take a look at them. I agree, fixing old code would be
 substantially easier than writing a new one from scratch.

Personally I believe the best way to move forward with a Voice/Video
Conference Activity is to look at empathy and associated projects. I
believe there was plans to produce a libempathy for reuse although I
don't know the status of that. By using empathy/cheese and other
components it would integrate with our current comms stack and allow
sharing of things like account data and contacts as well as being
transferable between gnome and sugar.

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Re: Video chat activity (was: Re: C and Sugar/GTK)

2012-03-21 Thread Alex Waterman
Hi Peter,

Personally I believe the best way to move forward with a Voice/Video
 Conference Activity is to look at empathy and associated projects. I
 believe there was plans to produce a libempathy for reuse although I
 don't know the status of that. By using empathy/cheese and other
 components it would integrate with our current comms stack and allow
 sharing of things like account data and contacts as well as being
 transferable between gnome and sugar.


I will take a look at the latest libempathy. I was looking at the dbus
interface for interacting with sugar and it seems as though a video chat
app could be written with telepathy as well. I will look at the previous
projects sometime today and see what they do/use. I think if the previous
projects are using telepathy, then its worth sticking with that, otherwise
if they use libempathy, then I could update the code to use the latest
empathy as a start.

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Re: Video chat activity (was: Re: C and Sugar/GTK)

2012-03-21 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 2:33 PM, Alex Waterman imnotlisten...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Peter,

 Personally I believe the best way to move forward with a Voice/Video
 Conference Activity is to look at empathy and associated projects. I
 believe there was plans to produce a libempathy for reuse although I
 don't know the status of that. By using empathy/cheese and other
 components it would integrate with our current comms stack and allow
 sharing of things like account data and contacts as well as being
 transferable between gnome and sugar.


 I will take a look at the latest libempathy. I was looking at the dbus
 interface for interacting with sugar and it seems as though a video chat app
 could be written with telepathy as well. I will look at the previous
 projects sometime today and see what they do/use. I think if the previous
 projects are using telepathy, then its worth sticking with that, otherwise
 if they use libempathy, then I could update the code to use the latest
 empathy as a start.

Empathy uses telepathy and it would save you having to deal with the
upper levels like glueing telepathy, gstreamer, account/contacts
management and various inputs together. Basically libempathy sits on
top of all that so you could use the guts of empathy and just
implement the Sugar UX for it.

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Re: Video chat activity (was: Re: C and Sugar/GTK)

2012-03-21 Thread Alex Waterman
Hi Peter,

Empathy uses telepathy and it would save you having to deal with the
 upper levels like glueing telepathy, gstreamer, account/contacts
 management and various inputs together. Basically libempathy sits on
 top of all that so you could use the guts of empathy and just
 implement the Sugar UX for it.


That would be really nice and convenient. I will definitely look into that
since that would save a huge amount of effort, to be sure.

How much work is implementing a sugar UX?

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Re: Video chat activity (was: Re: C and Sugar/GTK)

2012-03-21 Thread Walter Bender
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Alex Waterman
imnotlisten...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Peter,

 Empathy uses telepathy and it would save you having to deal with the
 upper levels like glueing telepathy, gstreamer, account/contacts
 management and various inputs together. Basically libempathy sits on
 top of all that so you could use the guts of empathy and just
 implement the Sugar UX for it.


 That would be really nice and convenient. I will definitely look into that
 since that would save a huge amount of effort, to be sure.

 How much work is implementing a sugar UX?

That part is pretty cookie cutter. You inherit toolbars and a canvas
from the Sugar activity class.

FWIW, the Collabora guys wrote a video chat for Sugar back in 2007. I
demoed it in Buenos Aires, connected to Boston.

-walter


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Re: Video chat activity (was: Re: C and Sugar/GTK)

2012-03-21 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote:
 FWIW, the Collabora guys wrote a video chat for Sugar back in 2007. I
 demoed it in Buenos Aires, connected to Boston.

Where is that code?! I wanna! :-)

cheers,



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Re: Video chat activity

2012-03-21 Thread Chris Ball
Hi,

On Wed, Mar 21 2012, Martin Langhoff wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 FWIW, the Collabora guys wrote a video chat for Sugar back in 2007. I
 demoed it in Buenos Aires, connected to Boston.

 Where is that code?! I wanna! :-)

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Video_Chat
http://dev.laptop.org/git/projects/video-chat-activity

It requires a jabber server and working routing between public IP addresses.

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Video chat activity (was: Re: C and Sugar/GTK)

2012-03-20 Thread Sascha Silbe
Excerpts from Alex Waterman's message of 2012-03-20 17:59:39 +0100:

 I have been starting some work on a video chat activity for the XO which I
 would like to use C to develop.

Have you looked at the existing Video Chat activity [1,4] already?
Writing a video chat activity is (surprisingly?) a non-trivial task;
there have been several (announced [2] and real [1,3,4]) prototypes so
far, but nothing that can be used by deployments or individual
users. It would be much more helpful to fix up the existing code [5]
rather than starting yet another prototype that will get abandoned
before it's ready for the masses.

 Is it possible to interface with sugar from C? If so, are there any
 tutorials describing the process?

Others have already pointed out the best available resources. If you
need further information, feel free to ask questions on
sugar-devel [6].

Sascha

[1] http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Video_Chat
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http://www.mail-archive.com/sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org/msg12095.html
[3] http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-April/013227.html
[4] https://fedorahosted.org/OpenVideoChat/
[5] http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/OpenVideoChat.git
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Re: [IAEP] Video Chat, Video Editing and VOIP activities for Sugar

2010-02-15 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 3:33 AM, satyaakam goswami satyaa...@gmail.com wrote:
 Old one http://cinelerra.org/about.php still , also can look at the
 distros like ubuntu studio .

Cinelerra is a quirky beast, designed for high end hw, with lots of UI
complexity, abundant unexplained segfaults and but it works for me
developers.

May be it can be turned into the opposite of what it's been for the
last few years. But it does seem like you have better candidates these
days...



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Re: [IAEP] Video Chat, Video Editing and VOIP activities for Sugar

2010-02-15 Thread Kevin Cole
Probably not the best choice, but look into some of the AccessGrid
work as well. If nothing else, it may give you ideas...

http://www.accessgrid.org/

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Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Video Chat, Video Editing and VOIP activities for Sugar

2010-02-15 Thread imm

On 15 Feb 2010, at 13:50, Martin Langhoff wrote:

 Cinelerra is a quirky beast, designed for high end hw, with lots of UI
 complexity, abundant unexplained segfaults and but it works for me
 developers.

 May be it can be turned into the opposite of what it's been for the
 last few years. But it does seem like you have better candidates these
 days...

Here's an unlikely option...

When I couldn't get cinelerra to work, back in the day, I ended up  
resorting to:

http://lvempeg.sourceforge.net/

Which is pretty much unmaintained for the past 5 years, so far as I  
can tell, so probably no use here.
On the other hand, it worked OK on the low spec hardware I had  
available at the time (which might be relevant) and the code seemed  
reasonably understandable...



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Re: [IAEP] Video Chat, Video Editing and VOIP activities for Sugar

2010-02-13 Thread satyaakam goswami
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 8:38 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta sayami...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Manusheel Gupta m...@laptop.org wrote:
 Dear friends,

 6 developers working at SEETA will be spearheading the design and
 development of video chat, video editing and VOIP activities in Sugar
 starting Feb. 15. We have been trying to arrive at a decision on the
 approach to be followed -  designing the application and writing the code
 from ground zero vs. porting an existing open source application to Sugar.

i would call it cannibalizing from  the existing pieces  ;-)  ,i think
that's what you meant by Porting.

 We have been examining a number of open source applications, and believe
 that it will be easier to port the following applications to Sugar than
 reinventing the wheel  -

 1. Video Chat - Pidgin  (http://www.pidgin.im/)
 2. Video Editor - PiTiVi  (http://www.pitivi.org/)

 For Video Editor, you may want to take a look at OpenShot
 (http://www.openshotvideo.com/). I tried it out a couple of weeks back
 and it seemed to be quite impressive as far a basic video editor goes.

Old one http://cinelerra.org/about.php still , also can look at the
distros like ubuntu studio .


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Video Chat, Video Editing and VOIP activities for Sugar

2010-02-12 Thread Manusheel Gupta
Dear friends,

6 developers working at SEETA http://seeta.in will be spearheading the
design and development of video chat, video editing and VOIP activities in
Sugar starting Feb. 15. We have been trying to arrive at a decision on the
approach to be followed -  designing the application and writing the code
from ground zero vs. porting an existing open source application to Sugar.

We have been examining a number of open source applications, and believe
that it will be easier to port the following applications to Sugar than
reinventing the wheel  -

1. Video Chat - Pidgin  (http://www.pidgin.im/)
2. Video Editor - PiTiVi  (http://www.pitivi.org/)
3. VOIP activity - Shtoom (http://divmod.org/trac/wiki/ShtoomProject)

Wish to have your feedback on issues, implementation strategies and external
dependencies that we might have overlooked.

Regards,

Manu
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Re: Video Chat, Video Editing and VOIP activities for Sugar

2010-02-12 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
Manusheel Gupta wrote:
 Dear friends,
 
 6 developers working at SEETA http://seeta.in will be spearheading the
 design and development of video chat, video editing and VOIP activities in
 Sugar starting Feb. 15.

Great!

 1. Video Chat - Pidgin  (http://www.pidgin.im/)
 3. VOIP activity - Shtoom (http://divmod.org/trac/wiki/ShtoomProject)

I think you'd be better off starting from Empathy
(http://live.gnome.org/Empathy), which already provides both features and
is built on the same communications platform (Telepathy) that Sugar
already uses.

 2. Video Editor - PiTiVi  (http://www.pitivi.org/)

Yes. PiTiVi is the ideal starting point.

 Wish to have your feedback on issues, implementation strategies and external
 dependencies that we might have overlooked.

Definitely talk to the Telepathy developers (on their mailing list and
#telepathy on freenode).  They are very helpful.

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Re: [IAEP] Video Chat, Video Editing and VOIP activities for Sugar

2010-02-12 Thread Chris Ball
Hi Manu,

We have been examining a number of open source applications, and
believe that it will be easier to port the following applications
to Sugar than reinventing the wheel.

1. Video Chat - Pidgin

This one's surprising, since the Sugar collaboration stack is based on
Telepathy, and Pidgin isn't.  Empathy would be a better base.

Of course, it would also make sense to look at the Video Chat activity,
even though it needs work.  The Telepathy folks might be able to advise
you on what its next steps should be, if you decide to work on it.

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Video_Chat
http://dev.laptop.org/git/projects/video-chat-activity
http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-April/013227.html

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Re: [IAEP] Video Chat, Video Editing and VOIP activities for Sugar

2010-02-12 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
Hi,

On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Manusheel Gupta m...@laptop.org wrote:
 Dear friends,

 6 developers working at SEETA will be spearheading the design and
 development of video chat, video editing and VOIP activities in Sugar
 starting Feb. 15. We have been trying to arrive at a decision on the
 approach to be followed -  designing the application and writing the code
 from ground zero vs. porting an existing open source application to Sugar.

 We have been examining a number of open source applications, and believe
 that it will be easier to port the following applications to Sugar than
 reinventing the wheel  -

 1. Video Chat - Pidgin  (http://www.pidgin.im/)
 2. Video Editor - PiTiVi  (http://www.pitivi.org/)

For Video Editor, you may want to take a look at OpenShot
(http://www.openshotvideo.com/). I tried it out a couple of weeks back
and it seemed to be quite impressive as far a basic video editor goes.

Cheers,
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Re: Video Chat

2008-07-17 Thread Joseph A. Feinstein
Ricardo,

I do, and I'm going to repeat this test to collect more info.

Regards,

Joe
---
At 11:57 AM 7/16/2008, Ricardo Carrano wrote:
Guillaume,



On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 11:51 AM, Guillaume Desmottes
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Le mercredi 16 juillet 2008 à 09:31 -0300, Ricardo Carrano a écrit :
   I am trying to install the Video Chat 
 activity, in order to check #7511.
  
   Following instructions in:
   http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-April/013227.html
  
   Fetching the rpms from:
   http://people.collabora.co.uk/~cassidy/olpc-video-chat/
  
   All the rpms installs ok but the last which fails on dependency for
   libtelepathy-glib.so.0.
   Where can I get this lib? I tried some obvious things, like yum
   install libtelepathy, but it didn't help.
  
  
   Humm this is weird. Which build are you using? Could you check what rpm
   -qa | telepathy returns ?
  
 
  It is candidate-708:
 
  telepathy-gabble-0.7.1-0.8.olpc2
  telepathy-salut-0.2.3-1.olpc2
  telepathy-filesystem-0.0.1-2.fc7
  telepathy-glib-0.6.1-1.olpc2
 
 
  This version is too old. telepathy-stream-engine requires at least
  telepathy-glib 0.7.6.
  You should try using Joyride.


Ok, thanks!

Mm, I just don't get how joe (Joe, are you listening to this?)
reported that the video-chat activity saturates bandwidth (#7511) on
build 708. Have you seen this ticket?

Cheers!
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Re: Video Chat

2008-07-16 Thread Guillaume Desmottes
Le mardi 15 juillet 2008 à 19:39 -0400, Ricardo Carrano a écrit :
 Hey!


Hi,


 I am trying to install the Video Chat activity, in order to check #7511.
 
 Following instructions in:
 http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-April/013227.html
 
 Fetching the rpms from:
 http://people.collabora.co.uk/~cassidy/olpc-video-chat/
 
 All the rpms installs ok but the last which fails on dependency for
 libtelepathy-glib.so.0.
 Where can I get this lib? I tried some obvious things, like yum
 install libtelepathy, but it didn't help.


Humm this is weird. Which build are you using? Could you check what rpm
-qa | telepathy returns ?



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Re: Video Chat

2008-07-16 Thread Guillaume Desmottes
Le mercredi 16 juillet 2008 à 09:31 -0300, Ricardo Carrano a écrit :
  I am trying to install the Video Chat activity, in order to check #7511.
 
  Following instructions in:
  http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-April/013227.html
 
  Fetching the rpms from:
  http://people.collabora.co.uk/~cassidy/olpc-video-chat/
 
  All the rpms installs ok but the last which fails on dependency for
  libtelepathy-glib.so.0.
  Where can I get this lib? I tried some obvious things, like yum
  install libtelepathy, but it didn't help.
 
 
  Humm this is weird. Which build are you using? Could you check what rpm
  -qa | telepathy returns ?
 
 
 It is candidate-708:
 
 telepathy-gabble-0.7.1-0.8.olpc2
 telepathy-salut-0.2.3-1.olpc2
 telepathy-filesystem-0.0.1-2.fc7
 telepathy-glib-0.6.1-1.olpc2


This version is too old. telepathy-stream-engine requires at least
telepathy-glib 0.7.6.
You should try using Joyride.


G.

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Re: Video Chat

2008-07-16 Thread Ricardo Carrano
Guillaume,



On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 11:51 AM, Guillaume Desmottes
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Le mercredi 16 juillet 2008 à 09:31 -0300, Ricardo Carrano a écrit :
  I am trying to install the Video Chat activity, in order to check #7511.
 
  Following instructions in:
  http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-April/013227.html
 
  Fetching the rpms from:
  http://people.collabora.co.uk/~cassidy/olpc-video-chat/
 
  All the rpms installs ok but the last which fails on dependency for
  libtelepathy-glib.so.0.
  Where can I get this lib? I tried some obvious things, like yum
  install libtelepathy, but it didn't help.
 
 
  Humm this is weird. Which build are you using? Could you check what rpm
  -qa | telepathy returns ?
 

 It is candidate-708:

 telepathy-gabble-0.7.1-0.8.olpc2
 telepathy-salut-0.2.3-1.olpc2
 telepathy-filesystem-0.0.1-2.fc7
 telepathy-glib-0.6.1-1.olpc2


 This version is too old. telepathy-stream-engine requires at least
 telepathy-glib 0.7.6.
 You should try using Joyride.


Ok, thanks!

Mm, I just don't get how joe (Joe, are you listening to this?)
reported that the video-chat activity saturates bandwidth (#7511) on
build 708. Have you seen this ticket?

Cheers!
Ricardo
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Re: Video Chat

2008-07-16 Thread Ricardo Carrano
Hey Michael,

So, according to http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7511#comment:3, Joe got
a build from you to test (which he refers to as 'build 708').  In this
build he was able to run the Video-Chat activity, which seems to me to
be in early beta stage, and reports his findings (a crash) as a
network problem (in the same #7511).

Guillaume notes that the video-chat activity is supposed to run in
joyride, since it needs a newer version of telepathy-glibs.

I am trying to further investigate this, but I am confused on what
exactly was used on the test. Would you recall what exactly is the
build that Joe is testing?

Thank you very much!

Cheers!
Ricardo

On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Ricardo Carrano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Guillaume,



 On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 11:51 AM, Guillaume Desmottes
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Le mercredi 16 juillet 2008 à 09:31 -0300, Ricardo Carrano a écrit :
  I am trying to install the Video Chat activity, in order to check #7511.
 
  Following instructions in:
  http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-April/013227.html
 
  Fetching the rpms from:
  http://people.collabora.co.uk/~cassidy/olpc-video-chat/
 
  All the rpms installs ok but the last which fails on dependency for
  libtelepathy-glib.so.0.
  Where can I get this lib? I tried some obvious things, like yum
  install libtelepathy, but it didn't help.
 
 
  Humm this is weird. Which build are you using? Could you check what rpm
  -qa | telepathy returns ?
 

 It is candidate-708:

 telepathy-gabble-0.7.1-0.8.olpc2
 telepathy-salut-0.2.3-1.olpc2
 telepathy-filesystem-0.0.1-2.fc7
 telepathy-glib-0.6.1-1.olpc2


 This version is too old. telepathy-stream-engine requires at least
 telepathy-glib 0.7.6.
 You should try using Joyride.


 Ok, thanks!

 Mm, I just don't get how joe (Joe, are you listening to this?)
 reported that the video-chat activity saturates bandwidth (#7511) on
 build 708. Have you seen this ticket?

 Cheers!
 Ricardo

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Re: Video Chat

2008-07-16 Thread Joseph A. Feinstein
Hi Ricardo,

BTW, I don't know for sure what element in 
particular is responsible for results I have 
observed: networking, fedora, sugar, activity...

Regards,

Joe

At 07:10 PM 7/16/2008, Ricardo Carrano wrote:
Hey Michael,

So, according to http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7511#comment:3, Joe got
a build from you to test (which he refers to as 'build 708').  In this
build he was able to run the Video-Chat activity, which seems to me to
be in early beta stage, and reports his findings (a crash) as a
network problem (in the same #7511).

Guillaume notes that the video-chat activity is supposed to run in
joyride, since it needs a newer version of telepathy-glibs.

I am trying to further investigate this, but I am confused on what
exactly was used on the test. Would you recall what exactly is the
build that Joe is testing?

Thank you very much!

Cheers!
Ricardo

On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Ricardo Carrano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Guillaume,
 
 
 
  On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 11:51 AM, Guillaume Desmottes
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Le mercredi 16 juillet 2008 à 09:31 -0300, Ricardo Carrano a écrit :
   I am trying to install the Video Chat 
 activity, in order to check #7511.
  
   Following instructions in:
   http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-April/013227.html
  
   Fetching the rpms from:
   http://people.collabora.co.uk/~cassidy/olpc-video-chat/
  
   All the rpms installs ok but the last which fails on dependency for
   libtelepathy-glib.so.0.
   Where can I get this lib? I tried some obvious things, like yum
   install libtelepathy, but it didn't help.
  
  
   Humm this is weird. Which build are you 
 using? Could you check what rpm
   -qa | telepathy returns ?
  
 
  It is candidate-708:
 
  telepathy-gabble-0.7.1-0.8.olpc2
  telepathy-salut-0.2.3-1.olpc2
  telepathy-filesystem-0.0.1-2.fc7
  telepathy-glib-0.6.1-1.olpc2
 
 
  This version is too old. telepathy-stream-engine requires at least
  telepathy-glib 0.7.6.
  You should try using Joyride.
 
 
  Ok, thanks!
 
  Mm, I just don't get how joe (Joe, are you listening to this?)
  reported that the video-chat activity saturates bandwidth (#7511) on
  build 708. Have you seen this ticket?
 
  Cheers!
  Ricardo
 
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Re: Video Chat

2008-07-16 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 07:10:23PM -0400, Ricardo Carrano wrote:
I am trying to further investigate this, but I am confused on what
exactly was used on the test. Would you recall what exactly is the
build that Joe is testing?

http://download.laptop.org/xo-1/custom/g1g1/en-708-1/

seems to me to be the most likely candidate.

Michael
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Re: Video Chat

2008-07-16 Thread Ricardo Carrano
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 9:10 PM, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 07:10:23PM -0400, Ricardo Carrano wrote:

 I am trying to further investigate this, but I am confused on what
 exactly was used on the test. Would you recall what exactly is the
 build that Joe is testing?

 http://download.laptop.org/xo-1/custom/g1g1/en-708-1/

 seems to me to be the most likely candidate.

Well, that's all we got, so I am going for it.
Thank you!



 Michael

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Video Chat

2008-07-15 Thread Ricardo Carrano
Hey!

I am trying to install the Video Chat activity, in order to check #7511.

Following instructions in:
http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-April/013227.html

Fetching the rpms from:
http://people.collabora.co.uk/~cassidy/olpc-video-chat/

All the rpms installs ok but the last which fails on dependency for
libtelepathy-glib.so.0.
Where can I get this lib? I tried some obvious things, like yum
install libtelepathy, but it didn't help.

Though the instructions say that this activity should be installed on
a joyride build, I am under the impression that we can run this on
candidate-708, because of what is reported in #7511.

Any ideas? Thanks in advance!

Cheers!
Ricardo
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Re: Phone-in # for mini-conference; video chat info, too.

2008-04-04 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 4:15 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Phone-in info:
  From the United States
  866-213-2185
   From Outside the United States
  1-609-454-9914
   accesscode: 8069698

 I'll try to keep this open during all the talks.  We may have to mute
 the speaker  on our end if there's too much background noise. We'll
 also be on #olpc-devel on irc.oftc.net.  If you'd like to make a
 comment and don't seem to be being heard in-room, a brief msg on
 #olpc-devel should suffice to ensure you get the floor.

 Noah's setting up a groovy flash video streaming server thingy, so you
 shouldn't need anything but a web browser  flash to view the
 real-time video.

Will the live stream be Gnash-compatible?

 But you might want to download VLC  tonight just to
 be safe ( http://www.videolan.org/ ).  We'll transcode to Ogg Theora
 afterwards, of course, and post the files.
  --scott

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