An aside to all about mailing list usage : please stay on-topic.
Community-news is for announcements only (despite having a brief discussion
earlier this week), and devel is for code and development. I'm bcc:ing
devel and copying olpc-open and grassroots lists, in the hopes that this is
taken up
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 9:49 PM, Martin Langhoff
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Try contacting [EMAIL PROTECTED] - which is handled by Darah. She
> is the best first point of contact and can get things going.
I don't know. It seems like the brushoff to me.
Darah Tappitake to me
10:50 AM (16 hours
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 06:14:21PM +0200, J.M. Maurer wrote:
> But it did happen, so now people want to be reassured that their *very
> precious spare time* will not be wasted.
Please do not let present doubt stop you from using your power to
advance our mutual cause. If you doubt, seek the reassu
On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 08:05 -0700, Joshua N Pritikin wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 04:31:30PM +0200, J.M. Maurer wrote:
> > On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 14:05 +0200, Bobby Powers wrote:
> > > Maybe we could take a break from
> > > talking about the sky falling until we hear something from Negroponte
>
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 04:31:30PM +0200, J.M. Maurer wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 14:05 +0200, Bobby Powers wrote:
> > Maybe we could take a break from
> > talking about the sky falling until we hear something from Negroponte
> > or someone else at 1CC regarding Windows?
>
> A clear statement o
On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 14:05 +0200, Bobby Powers wrote:
> I'm new around here, but it seems like this whole conversation is
> based on a bunch of what-ifs surrounding that AP article. People
> generally seem on the same page that switching to Windows and non-free
> software would be a Bad Thing. M
On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:05:16 +0200
"Bobby Powers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Maybe we could take a break from talking about the sky falling until
> we hear something from Negroponte or someone else at 1CC regarding Windows?
I think everybody would be glad to hear an official statement and near
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 12:13 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> This lack of transperency is *exactly* the sort of behaviour that kills
> free software and other volunteer projects. People are not going to donate
> their own precious time to a project that may ultimately shaft them.
>
> The comm
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 2:14 AM, Edward Cherlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Illinois, as I said somewhere in this thread, wants to put laptops
> into 300 schools to start.
Just a quick question, probably off-topic, but is Illinois interested in
giving kids *XO's* or *laptops*?
Because if Illinoi
2008/4/23 Martin Edmund Sevior <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I've stayed away from this discussion until now. But for my own part, if the
> OLPC becomes just another laptop running "standard" educational software of
> the kind that inhabits my daughters primary school, I'm no longer interested
> in the pr
TED] on behalf of Stephen John Smoogen
> Sent: Wed 4/23/2008 1:18 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: sugar; devel-list; Walter Bender; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [sugar] [Community-news] where is Walter?
>
> On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:58 AM, Stephen John Smoogen <[EMAIL PR
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:46 PM, Martin Langhoff
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 5:29 PM, Edward Cherlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:13 PM, Martin Langhoff
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 4:54 PM, Edward Cherlin <
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:31 PM, Joshua N Pritikin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:20:22PM -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:10 PM, Joshua N Pritikin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > > Suppose you were to do that. What would you actually chang
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 5:29 PM, Edward Cherlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:13 PM, Martin Langhoff
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 4:54 PM, Edward Cherlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > What's this hostility about? Does it accomplish somet
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:20:22PM -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:10 PM, Joshua N Pritikin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Suppose you were to do that. What would you actually change? I mean, I
> > don't see an imminent threat to Sugar and the constructivist Activity
> >
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:13 PM, Martin Langhoff
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 4:54 PM, Edward Cherlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > What's this hostility about? Does it accomplish something?
>
> Not everyone knows everything about your project - though it's
> interesti
On Tue, 22 Apr 2008, Edward Cherlin wrote:
> 2008/4/22 Martin Edmund Sevior <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>
>> I've stayed away from this discussion until now. But for my own part, if the
>> OLPC becomes just another laptop running "standard" educational software of
>> the kind that inhabits my daughters
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:10 PM, Joshua N Pritikin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 09:58:20PM -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote:
> > 2008/4/22 Martin Edmund Sevior <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > > I really bought into the "new paradigm" of pervasive collaboration and
> > > constructi
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 4:54 PM, Edward Cherlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What's this hostility about? Does it accomplish something?
Not everyone knows everything about your project - though it's
interesting to hear.
Regardless of project size, getting hold of key people at a large
project is
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 09:58:20PM -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote:
> 2008/4/22 Martin Edmund Sevior <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > I really bought into the "new paradigm" of pervasive collaboration and
> > constructionist education. I'm not particularly interested in a cheap laptop
> > clone and in any cas
TECTED] on behalf of Stephen John Smoogen
> Sent: Wed 4/23/2008 1:18 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: sugar; devel-list; Walter Bender; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [sugar] [Community-news] where is Walter?
>
> On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:58 AM, Stephen John Smooge
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 12:10 PM, Wes Kussmaul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Edward Cherlin wrote:
>
> > I recently wrote to Nicholas about Illinois HB5000, the Children's
> > Low-Cost Laptop Act, and received no reply.
>
> Yeah, I know the feeling. I recently wrote to the CEO of General Motors
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 7:10 AM, Wes Kussmaul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Edward Cherlin wrote:
>
> > I recently wrote to Nicholas about Illinois HB5000, the Children's
> > Low-Cost Laptop Act, and received no reply.
>
> Yeah, I know the feeling. I recently wrote to the CEO of General Motors
>
the new vision or not. If it is the new vision
I can stop wasting my time here.
Martin Sevior
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Stephen John Smoogen
Sent: Wed 4/23/2008 1:18 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: sugar; devel-list; Walter Bender; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re
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> Subject: [Community-news] where is Walter?
>
> After more than two years without a break at One Laptop per Child, I
> have decided to take some time to reflect on how I can best contribute
> going forward to the goal of giving children around the world
> opportunities for
Edward Cherlin wrote:
> I recently wrote to Nicholas about Illinois HB5000, the Children's
> Low-Cost Laptop Act, and received no reply.
Yeah, I know the feeling. I recently wrote to the CEO of General Motors about
customizing my minivan for my work and
didn't hear back either...
OLPC now has
Hoi,
the most imporant thing is that we are left with a sense of gratitude of all
the great things the leaders that have left have done. In this way we know
the history of the project. We also remember that the people who left did
good.. and we cherish them for it. We still need to move on and make
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:58 AM, Stephen John Smoogen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Chris Preimesberger
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Walter, you have been a shining light of good information for all this
> > time, and it's sad to see you pull away from the
On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 8:38 PM, Drew Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 5:15 PM, Kim Quirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > OLPC has increased funding and resources in 2008 toward a continued
> > commitment to helping kids in the least developed countries through
> > deploy
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Chris Preimesberger
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Walter, you have been a shining light of good information for all this
> time, and it's sad to see you pull away from the project. Sad to see
> the project melting away, too -- at least that's my impression.
>
On
Edward Cherlin wrote:
> Basically, the impression that outsiders get is of imperial rule
> by Nicholas Negroponte, with no sense that the workers or the public
> deserve to be informed of anything until after the decisions have all
> been made, and made wrongly.
>
What's so imperial about the Un
On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 5:13 PM, Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 05:54:13PM -0500, Joe Barr wrote:
> > It really sucks to see OLPC shriveling up and dying.
>
> Joe,
>
> It's good for people who have been unable to reconcile their differences
> with one another
2008/4/21 Kim Quirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> OLPC has increased funding and resources in 2008 toward a continued
> commitment to helping kids in the least developed countries through
> deployment of XOs and Sugar. I don't think there is any shriveling or dying
> going on here.
Like many people who l
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 1:34 PM, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 22.04.2008 02:13, Michael Stone wrote:
> > What in this description of events leads you to the conclusion that OLPC
> > is "shriveling up and dying"?
> Perhaps not shriveling up, but quite a few contributors
On Apr 21, 2008, at 9:34 PM, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote:
> The general climate is much less friendly to criticism, and I see the
> recent USENIX paper debate as a prime example. That paper has been
> criticised and ridiculed on various grounds instead of addressing the
> issues it brought up.
Th
On 22.04.2008 02:13, Michael Stone wrote:
> What in this description of events leads you to the conclusion that OLPC
> is "shriveling up and dying"?
>
Perhaps not shriveling up, but quite a few contributors/participants
from the early days (pre-A-Test till B2-Test) have left and the
perceived g
On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 5:15 PM, Kim Quirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> OLPC has increased funding and resources in 2008 toward a continued
> commitment to helping kids in the least developed countries through
> deployment of XOs and Sugar. I don't think there is any shriveling or dying
> going on
We are all grateful to have had Walter's leadership and inspiration to get
us to this point. It should be inspiring to see OLPC branching out,
expanding and increasing support for children in many different ways.
OLPC has increased funding and resources in 2008 toward a continued
commitment to hel
On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 05:54:13PM -0500, Joe Barr wrote:
> It really sucks to see OLPC shriveling up and dying.
Joe,
It's good for people who have been unable to reconcile their differences
with one another to separate themselves, to recuperate, and eventually,
to re-engage one another with fres
On Mon, 2008-04-21 at 18:22 -0400, Walter Bender wrote:
>
> Thank you for all of your support over the past two years and for all
> the feedback and encouragement you have given me.
>
> regards.
>
> -walter
It really sucks to see OLPC shriveling up and dying.
--
Resistance is not futil
After more than two years without a break at One Laptop per Child, I
have decided to take some time to reflect on how I can best contribute
going forward to the goal of giving children around the world
opportunities for a quality learning experience. The OLPC Association
is making headway getting l
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