XOs cannot act as WiFi access points

2015-03-20 Thread T Gillett
Some information here on devices we looked at as part of the VT project. http://wiki.villagetelco.org/Using_USB_WiFi_Devices_for_Dual_Radio (scroll to the bottom of the page) There are several Ralink chips used in these devices, but the RT3070 and RT5370 seem to be the most common and work quite

Re: [Server-devel] XOs cannot act as WiFi access points

2015-03-20 Thread Adam Holt
On Mar 20, 2015 4:58 PM, T Gillett tgill...@gmail.com wrote: Some information here on devices we looked at as part of the VT project. http://wiki.villagetelco.org/Using_USB_WiFi_Devices_for_Dual_Radio (scroll to the bottom of the page) There are several Ralink chips used in these devices,

Re: XOs cannot act as WiFi access points

2015-03-20 Thread Adam Holt
On Mar 20, 2015 4:58 PM, T Gillett tgill...@gmail.com wrote: Some information here on devices we looked at as part of the VT project. http://wiki.villagetelco.org/Using_USB_WiFi_Devices_for_Dual_Radio (scroll to the bottom of the page) There are several Ralink chips used in these devices,

Re: Fwd: [UKids] XOs cannot act as WiFi access points

2015-03-19 Thread Adam Holt
Progress Report: unlike most Android devices, Sugar/Gnome can't easily become wifi hotspots (for now) as poor countries' remote offline libraries would like. But Anna/James have some ideas 17 months regardless: http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/server-devel/2013-October/006909.html

Re: [Server-devel] Fwd: [UKids] XOs cannot act as WiFi access points

2015-03-19 Thread Adam Holt
Progress Report: unlike most Android devices, Sugar/Gnome can't easily become wifi hotspots (for now) as poor countries' remote offline libraries would like. But Anna/James have some ideas 17 months regardless: http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/server-devel/2013-October/006909.html

Re: XOs cannot act as WiFi access points

2015-03-17 Thread Martin Abente Lahaye
I remember adding a share-your-3G-connection feature to Sugar/Dextrose a few years ago, but not sure if this is what you are asking for [1]. It worked well in small scale. Refs: 1. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/3G_Support/Share On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 11:06 PM, Adam Holt h...@laptop.org

Re: [Server-devel] [UKids] XOs cannot act as WiFi access points

2015-03-16 Thread James Cameron
The XO laptops can provide library content like this to some extent, and the implementation varies across models, with varying levels of complexity in setting it up. But they aren't a cost-effective tool for the job, because they don't scale. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/

Re: [UKids] XOs cannot act as WiFi access points

2015-03-16 Thread James Cameron
The XO laptops can provide library content like this to some extent, and the implementation varies across models, with varying levels of complexity in setting it up. But they aren't a cost-effective tool for the job, because they don't scale. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/

Re: [Server-devel] [UKids] Re: XOs cannot act as WiFi access points

2015-03-16 Thread James Cameron
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 09:30:30PM -0500, Jerry Vonau wrote: On March 16, 2015 at 9:23 PM James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: There's no need to go as far as configuring as an access point when ad-hoc networking will work, with suitable configuration of the other laptops connecting to

Re: [UKids] Re: XOs cannot act as WiFi access points

2015-03-16 Thread James Cameron
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 09:30:30PM -0500, Jerry Vonau wrote: On March 16, 2015 at 9:23 PM James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: There's no need to go as far as configuring as an access point when ad-hoc networking will work, with suitable configuration of the other laptops connecting to

Re: [Server-devel] [UKids] Re: XOs cannot act as WiFi access points

2015-03-16 Thread Sebastian Silva
Back then, I was dogfooding Sugar 0.94 because I had to deploy it to the children of Peru. Also, you can image, I had various XOs around. In my vision, Sugar should grow to be a useful desktop for a person of any age who likes to learn with simplicity, collaboration and reflection. If it's not

Re: [UKids] Re: XOs cannot act as WiFi access points

2015-03-16 Thread Sebastian Silva
Back then, I was dogfooding Sugar 0.94 because I had to deploy it to the children of Peru. Also, you can image, I had various XOs around. In my vision, Sugar should grow to be a useful desktop for a person of any age who likes to learn with simplicity, collaboration and reflection. If it's not

Re: [Server-devel] [UKids] Re: XOs cannot act as WiFi access points

2015-03-16 Thread Adam Holt
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 10:36 PM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 09:30:30PM -0500, Jerry Vonau wrote: On March 16, 2015 at 9:23 PM James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: There's no need to go as far as configuring as an access point when ad-hoc networking

Re: [UKids] Re: XOs cannot act as WiFi access points

2015-03-16 Thread Adam Holt
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 10:36 PM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 09:30:30PM -0500, Jerry Vonau wrote: On March 16, 2015 at 9:23 PM James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: There's no need to go as far as configuring as an access point when ad-hoc networking

Re: [UKids] Re: XOs cannot act as WiFi access points

2015-03-16 Thread James Cameron
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 10:42:35PM -0400, Adam Holt wrote: On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 10:36 PM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 09:30:30PM -0500, Jerry Vonau wrote: On March 16, 2015 at 9:23 PM James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: There's no

Re: [Server-devel] [UKids] Re: XOs cannot act as WiFi access points

2015-03-16 Thread James Cameron
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 11:01:17PM -0400, Samuel Greenfeld wrote: If I recall correctly, Android devices cannot connect to Ad-hoc networks out-of-the-box. I agree, the user interface for the feature is missing, although the feature is present in most wireless drivers just fine. There may be

Re: [Server-devel] [UKids] Re: XOs cannot act as WiFi access points

2015-03-16 Thread Sebastian Silva
El 16/03/15 a las 22:31, James Cameron escibiĆ³: Why would Google and the carriers want to have people bypass them? It makes no business sense. ;-) Oh very timely with news about this beauty here: https://github.com/matiasinsaurralde/facebook-tunnel It's a tunnel for Internet traffic thru

Re: [Server-devel] [UKids] Re: XOs cannot act as WiFi access points

2015-03-16 Thread Sebastian Silva
El 16/03/15 a las 22:31, James Cameron escibiĆ³: Why would Google and the carriers want to have people bypass them? It makes no business sense. ;-) Oh very timely with news about this beauty here: https://github.com/matiasinsaurralde/facebook-tunnel It's a tunnel for Internet traffic thru

XOs cannot act as WiFi access points

2015-03-16 Thread Adam Holt
Can someone remind me the reason that XO laptops (if I'm remembering correctly) cannot use their antennae/ears as a self-contained WiFi AP server? (e.g. for tiny community/village libraries in very offline developing countries. A very typical situation being: local librarian wants to use

Re: XOs cannot act as WiFi access points

2015-03-16 Thread Sebastian Silva
Hi Adam, If I remember correctly, the /libertas /driver that is needed (for the xo1 at least), in contrast to its name, actually is not completely free, I don't remember if because of some firmware blobs. Therefore, it was difficult or impossible for a driver programmer to set the device to

Re: [Server-devel] XOs cannot act as WiFi access points

2015-03-16 Thread Sebastian Silva
Hi Adam, If I remember correctly, the /libertas /driver that is needed (for the xo1 at least), in contrast to its name, actually is not completely free, I don't remember if because of some firmware blobs. Therefore, it was difficult or impossible for a driver programmer to set the device to

Re: [Server-devel] XOs cannot act as WiFi access points

2015-03-16 Thread James Cameron
There's no need to go as far as configuring as an access point when ad-hoc networking will work, with suitable configuration of the other laptops connecting to it. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Server-devel mailing list

Re: XOs cannot act as WiFi access points

2015-03-16 Thread James Cameron
There's no need to go as far as configuring as an access point when ad-hoc networking will work, with suitable configuration of the other laptops connecting to it. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list

Re: [Server-devel] XOs cannot act as WiFi access points

2015-03-16 Thread Sebastian Silva
Looking at the page that I linked, I think actually this product would make it feasible, hopefully without too much fuss. I guess the drivers should come preinstalled with the XO, not sure.

Re: XOs cannot act as WiFi access points

2015-03-16 Thread Sebastian Silva
Looking at the page that I linked, I think actually this product would make it feasible, hopefully without too much fuss. I guess the drivers should come preinstalled with the XO, not sure.

Re: [Server-devel] [UKids] Re: XOs cannot act as WiFi access points

2015-03-16 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
If I recall correctly, Android devices cannot connect to Ad-hoc networks out-of-the-box. There may be some third party utilities which allow certain devices to do this with varying levels of success. Instead, either one device is configured as an AP, or a newer-than-Adhoc standard called WiFi

Re: [UKids] Re: XOs cannot act as WiFi access points

2015-03-16 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
If I recall correctly, Android devices cannot connect to Ad-hoc networks out-of-the-box. There may be some third party utilities which allow certain devices to do this with varying levels of success. Instead, either one device is configured as an AP, or a newer-than-Adhoc standard called WiFi