gnome-vfs2 / GConf2 / dbus

2008-07-21 Thread Daniel Drake
On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 19:54 +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:
 In update.1 we shipped the DBus version of gnome-vfs2 (Nokia patches)
 which didn't bring ORBit in. I'm not sure if that's still the case in
 joyride.

I looked at the OLPC-2 gnome-vfs2 spec file and I don't see what you
mean here. The only obvious difference is that we changed the GConf
requires to GConf2-dbus. Did you mean GConf here?

I guess GConf2-dbus provides an equivalent interface to the GConf2
package and hence is a drop-in replacement. Do we want do to the same
for 8.2?

ORBit2 is shipped in update1 and 8.2 as well. Switching to GConf2-dbus
won't cause it to go away since it is needed by gnome-python2-gnomevfs.

Thanks,
Daniel


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Re: gnome-vfs2 / GConf2 / dbus

2008-07-21 Thread Daniel Drake
On Mon, 2008-07-21 at 19:00 +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:
  I guess GConf2-dbus provides an equivalent interface to the GConf2
  package and hence is a drop-in replacement.
 
 Oh ok, that make sense and I guess it's the case here...

So do we want to use GConf2-dbus like we did for update1, or are we ok
to stick with plain old GConf2 in 8.2?


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Re: gnome-vfs2 / GConf2 / dbus

2008-07-21 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 7:03 PM, Daniel Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, 2008-07-21 at 19:00 +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:
  I guess GConf2-dbus provides an equivalent interface to the GConf2
  package and hence is a drop-in replacement.

 Oh ok, that make sense and I guess it's the case here...

 So do we want to use GConf2-dbus like we did for update1, or are we ok
 to stick with plain old GConf2 in 8.2?

I'm not sure. The reason people didn't want plain GConf in the build
was the ORBit dependency. Now I'm not sure if the problem there was
disk space, memory or what else. I guess we should measure... Or we
can ask Jim, I think he was one of the ORBit haters :)

Marco
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Re: gnome-vfs2 / GConf2 / dbus

2008-07-21 Thread Daniel Drake
On Mon, 2008-07-21 at 13:28 -0400, Jim Gettys wrote:
 The bonobo-activation-server likes to chew up 40mb (of RAM), for doing
 almost nothing.

ORBit doesn't appear to depend on any bonobo components. And we've
successfully kicked bonobo out of the build.

Daniel


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Re: gnome-vfs2 / GConf2 / dbus

2008-07-21 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 7:59 PM, Daniel Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, 2008-07-21 at 13:28 -0400, Jim Gettys wrote:
 The bonobo-activation-server likes to chew up 40mb (of RAM), for doing
 almost nothing.

 ORBit doesn't appear to depend on any bonobo components. And we've
 successfully kicked bonobo out of the build.

It's bonobo that depends on ORBit, I guess the fear here is that, as
bonobo, GConf might use a lot of memory because of ORBit. It should
not be hard to measure.

Marco
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Re: gnome-vfs2 / GConf2 / dbus

2008-07-21 Thread Jim Gettys
In general,  gnome is moving away from Bonobo/Orbit toward dbus based
messaging.
 - Jim


On Mon, 2008-07-21 at 20:09 +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:
 On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 7:59 PM, Daniel Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Mon, 2008-07-21 at 13:28 -0400, Jim Gettys wrote:
  The bonobo-activation-server likes to chew up 40mb (of RAM), for doing
  almost nothing.
 
  ORBit doesn't appear to depend on any bonobo components. And we've
  successfully kicked bonobo out of the build.
 
 It's bonobo that depends on ORBit, I guess the fear here is that, as
 bonobo, GConf might use a lot of memory because of ORBit. It should
 not be hard to measure.
 
 Marco
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Jim Gettys [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: gnome-vfs2 / GConf2 / dbus

2008-07-21 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 8:16 PM, Jim Gettys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In general,  gnome is moving away from Bonobo/Orbit toward dbus based
 messaging.

Yeah, there is no plan yet (that I know of) to replace GConf with
something dbus based though :(

Marco
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Re: gnome-vfs2 / GConf2 / dbus

2008-07-21 Thread Jim Gettys
On Mon, 2008-07-21 at 20:25 +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:
 On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 8:16 PM, Jim Gettys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  In general,  gnome is moving away from Bonobo/Orbit toward dbus based
  messaging.
 
 Yeah, there is no plan yet (that I know of) to replace GConf with
 something dbus based though :(

Dunno current plans...

There does seem to be code

http://developer.imendio.com/projects/misc/gconf-dbus
- Jim

 
 Marco
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