Re: gnome applet can't initialize Clutter
I never used the applet. What I did was install gnome-bluetooth alone, then run blueman-manager, which gave me a complaint about PulseAudio on stderr, which was fixed by doing something with PulseAudio, then maybe starting the systemd bluetooth service, then it worked. It was back in October, so I don't have a good memory of it. I did get good data out of the Nintendo Wii Remote Plus that I was experimenting with, so I know I had it working. I did have to rebuild the kernel with CONFIG_HIDRAW=y CONFIG_HID_WIIMOTE=m CONFIG_HID_WIIMOTE_EXT=y but that was purely because of the Wii. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
gnome applet can't initialize Clutter
Hi! I just got an XO-4 and working to get some things working - bluetooth in this case. I installed the latest OLPC distro to the internal storage as follows from the ok prompt: fs-update u:\32013o4.zd booted to sugar - switched to Gnome Bluetooth applet won't show a screen when you right-click on the icon in upper right and select Bluetooth Settings. So, I killed the existing bluetooth-applet and ran another one from the command line in a terminal: [olpc@xo-d2-7f-9f ~]$ bluetooth-applet # Here I selected Bluetooth Settings in the new icon and got this: (gnome-control-center:1100): GModule-CRITICAL **: g_module_close: assertion `module-ref_count 0' failed (gnome-control-center:1100): Clutter-CRITICAL **: Unable to initialize Clutter: Failed to connected to any renderer due to constraints How do I get this working? Thanks, Scott ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: gnome applet can't initialize Clutter
This affects other gnome commands such as gnome-control-panel as well. On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 12:40 AM, Scott Chapman sc...@mischko.com wrote: Hi! I just got an XO-4 and working to get some things working - bluetooth in this case. I installed the latest OLPC distro to the internal storage as follows from the ok prompt: fs-update u:\32013o4.zd booted to sugar - switched to Gnome Bluetooth applet won't show a screen when you right-click on the icon in upper right and select Bluetooth Settings. So, I killed the existing bluetooth-applet and ran another one from the command line in a terminal: [olpc@xo-d2-7f-9f ~]$ bluetooth-applet # Here I selected Bluetooth Settings in the new icon and got this: (gnome-control-center:1100): GModule-CRITICAL **: g_module_close: assertion `module-ref_count 0' failed (gnome-control-center:1100): Clutter-CRITICAL **: Unable to initialize Clutter: Failed to connected to any renderer due to constraints How do I get this working? Thanks, Scott ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: gnome applet can't initialize Clutter
most of the gnome3 stack won't currently run on any of the XOs Peter On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 7:42 PM, Scott Chapman sc...@mischko.com wrote: This affects other gnome commands such as gnome-control-panel as well. On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 12:40 AM, Scott Chapman sc...@mischko.com wrote: Hi! I just got an XO-4 and working to get some things working - bluetooth in this case. I installed the latest OLPC distro to the internal storage as follows from the ok prompt: fs-update u:\32013o4.zd booted to sugar - switched to Gnome Bluetooth applet won't show a screen when you right-click on the icon in upper right and select Bluetooth Settings. So, I killed the existing bluetooth-applet and ran another one from the command line in a terminal: [olpc@xo-d2-7f-9f ~]$ bluetooth-applet # Here I selected Bluetooth Settings in the new icon and got this: (gnome-control-center:1100): GModule-CRITICAL **: g_module_close: assertion `module-ref_count 0' failed (gnome-control-center:1100): Clutter-CRITICAL **: Unable to initialize Clutter: Failed to connected to any renderer due to constraints How do I get this working? Thanks, Scott ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: gnome applet can't initialize Clutter
That appears to be the version included with the 13.2.0 build? What build should I downgrade to that will run Gnome correctly? Or is there an easy way to get a non-sugar GUI working on one of these? On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 11:48 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.comwrote: most of the gnome3 stack won't currently run on any of the XOs Peter On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 7:42 PM, Scott Chapman sc...@mischko.com wrote: This affects other gnome commands such as gnome-control-panel as well. On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 12:40 AM, Scott Chapman sc...@mischko.com wrote: Hi! I just got an XO-4 and working to get some things working - bluetooth in this case. I installed the latest OLPC distro to the internal storage as follows from the ok prompt: fs-update u:\32013o4.zd booted to sugar - switched to Gnome Bluetooth applet won't show a screen when you right-click on the icon in upper right and select Bluetooth Settings. So, I killed the existing bluetooth-applet and ran another one from the command line in a terminal: [olpc@xo-d2-7f-9f ~]$ bluetooth-applet # Here I selected Bluetooth Settings in the new icon and got this: (gnome-control-center:1100): GModule-CRITICAL **: g_module_close: assertion `module-ref_count 0' failed (gnome-control-center:1100): Clutter-CRITICAL **: Unable to initialize Clutter: Failed to connected to any renderer due to constraints How do I get this working? Thanks, Scott ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: gnome applet can't initialize Clutter
I don't remember the details of the 13.2.0 build, I seem to remember that it was the last release to include fall back mode. The gnome3 fallback mode had issues in that anything that was linked against clutter fails because of the lack of opengl support in all of the X drivers. Peter On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 7:50 PM, Scott Chapman sc...@mischko.com wrote: That appears to be the version included with the 13.2.0 build? What build should I downgrade to that will run Gnome correctly? Or is there an easy way to get a non-sugar GUI working on one of these? On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 11:48 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: most of the gnome3 stack won't currently run on any of the XOs Peter On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 7:42 PM, Scott Chapman sc...@mischko.com wrote: This affects other gnome commands such as gnome-control-panel as well. On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 12:40 AM, Scott Chapman sc...@mischko.com wrote: Hi! I just got an XO-4 and working to get some things working - bluetooth in this case. I installed the latest OLPC distro to the internal storage as follows from the ok prompt: fs-update u:\32013o4.zd booted to sugar - switched to Gnome Bluetooth applet won't show a screen when you right-click on the icon in upper right and select Bluetooth Settings. So, I killed the existing bluetooth-applet and ran another one from the command line in a terminal: [olpc@xo-d2-7f-9f ~]$ bluetooth-applet # Here I selected Bluetooth Settings in the new icon and got this: (gnome-control-center:1100): GModule-CRITICAL **: g_module_close: assertion `module-ref_count 0' failed (gnome-control-center:1100): Clutter-CRITICAL **: Unable to initialize Clutter: Failed to connected to any renderer due to constraints How do I get this working? Thanks, Scott ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: gnome applet can't initialize Clutter
I'm new to the XO-4. So it appears that nobody is running a GUI besides Sugar on these? We don't have opengl support in the X drivers because of the video type on these? I wonder why OLPC published a build with Gnome if it is this broken? On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 11:53 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.comwrote: I don't remember the details of the 13.2.0 build, I seem to remember that it was the last release to include fall back mode. The gnome3 fallback mode had issues in that anything that was linked against clutter fails because of the lack of opengl support in all of the X drivers. Peter On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 7:50 PM, Scott Chapman sc...@mischko.com wrote: That appears to be the version included with the 13.2.0 build? What build should I downgrade to that will run Gnome correctly? Or is there an easy way to get a non-sugar GUI working on one of these? On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 11:48 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: most of the gnome3 stack won't currently run on any of the XOs Peter On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 7:42 PM, Scott Chapman sc...@mischko.com wrote: This affects other gnome commands such as gnome-control-panel as well. On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 12:40 AM, Scott Chapman sc...@mischko.com wrote: Hi! I just got an XO-4 and working to get some things working - bluetooth in this case. I installed the latest OLPC distro to the internal storage as follows from the ok prompt: fs-update u:\32013o4.zd booted to sugar - switched to Gnome Bluetooth applet won't show a screen when you right-click on the icon in upper right and select Bluetooth Settings. So, I killed the existing bluetooth-applet and ran another one from the command line in a terminal: [olpc@xo-d2-7f-9f ~]$ bluetooth-applet # Here I selected Bluetooth Settings in the new icon and got this: (gnome-control-center:1100): GModule-CRITICAL **: g_module_close: assertion `module-ref_count 0' failed (gnome-control-center:1100): Clutter-CRITICAL **: Unable to initialize Clutter: Failed to connected to any renderer due to constraints How do I get this working? Thanks, Scott ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: gnome applet can't initialize Clutter
On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 7:55 PM, Scott Chapman sc...@mischko.com wrote: I'm new to the XO-4. So it appears that nobody is running a GUI besides Sugar on these? No idea, I have a bunch of XO-4s and other XO devices as I was involved in the bring up of the ARM platforms and devices. We don't have opengl support in the X drivers because of the video type on these? Nope, welcome to closed drivers... The reverse engineered etna_viv driver will one day be usable with luck but it will depend on a newer upstream kernel. I wonder why OLPC published a build with Gnome if it is this broken? It's not completely broken, just some components. Peter On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 11:53 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: I don't remember the details of the 13.2.0 build, I seem to remember that it was the last release to include fall back mode. The gnome3 fallback mode had issues in that anything that was linked against clutter fails because of the lack of opengl support in all of the X drivers. Peter On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 7:50 PM, Scott Chapman sc...@mischko.com wrote: That appears to be the version included with the 13.2.0 build? What build should I downgrade to that will run Gnome correctly? Or is there an easy way to get a non-sugar GUI working on one of these? On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 11:48 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: most of the gnome3 stack won't currently run on any of the XOs Peter On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 7:42 PM, Scott Chapman sc...@mischko.com wrote: This affects other gnome commands such as gnome-control-panel as well. On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 12:40 AM, Scott Chapman sc...@mischko.com wrote: Hi! I just got an XO-4 and working to get some things working - bluetooth in this case. I installed the latest OLPC distro to the internal storage as follows from the ok prompt: fs-update u:\32013o4.zd booted to sugar - switched to Gnome Bluetooth applet won't show a screen when you right-click on the icon in upper right and select Bluetooth Settings. So, I killed the existing bluetooth-applet and ran another one from the command line in a terminal: [olpc@xo-d2-7f-9f ~]$ bluetooth-applet # Here I selected Bluetooth Settings in the new icon and got this: (gnome-control-center:1100): GModule-CRITICAL **: g_module_close: assertion `module-ref_count 0' failed (gnome-control-center:1100): Clutter-CRITICAL **: Unable to initialize Clutter: Failed to connected to any renderer due to constraints How do I get this working? Thanks, Scott ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: gnome applet can't initialize Clutter
I'm not very savvy about video drivers but looking here: http://www.vivantecorp.com/technology/3d.html It shows the GC2000 series (which I find is in the XO-4 here: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XO-4_Touch) supports a bunch of OpenGL API's. /me confused On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.comwrote: On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 7:55 PM, Scott Chapman sc...@mischko.com wrote: I'm new to the XO-4. So it appears that nobody is running a GUI besides Sugar on these? No idea, I have a bunch of XO-4s and other XO devices as I was involved in the bring up of the ARM platforms and devices. We don't have opengl support in the X drivers because of the video type on these? Nope, welcome to closed drivers... The reverse engineered etna_viv driver will one day be usable with luck but it will depend on a newer upstream kernel. I wonder why OLPC published a build with Gnome if it is this broken? It's not completely broken, just some components. Peter On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 11:53 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: I don't remember the details of the 13.2.0 build, I seem to remember that it was the last release to include fall back mode. The gnome3 fallback mode had issues in that anything that was linked against clutter fails because of the lack of opengl support in all of the X drivers. Peter On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 7:50 PM, Scott Chapman sc...@mischko.com wrote: That appears to be the version included with the 13.2.0 build? What build should I downgrade to that will run Gnome correctly? Or is there an easy way to get a non-sugar GUI working on one of these? On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 11:48 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: most of the gnome3 stack won't currently run on any of the XOs Peter On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 7:42 PM, Scott Chapman sc...@mischko.com wrote: This affects other gnome commands such as gnome-control-panel as well. On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 12:40 AM, Scott Chapman sc...@mischko.com wrote: Hi! I just got an XO-4 and working to get some things working - bluetooth in this case. I installed the latest OLPC distro to the internal storage as follows from the ok prompt: fs-update u:\32013o4.zd booted to sugar - switched to Gnome Bluetooth applet won't show a screen when you right-click on the icon in upper right and select Bluetooth Settings. So, I killed the existing bluetooth-applet and ran another one from the command line in a terminal: [olpc@xo-d2-7f-9f ~]$ bluetooth-applet # Here I selected Bluetooth Settings in the new icon and got this: (gnome-control-center:1100): GModule-CRITICAL **: g_module_close: assertion `module-ref_count 0' failed (gnome-control-center:1100): Clutter-CRITICAL **: Unable to initialize Clutter: Failed to connected to any renderer due to constraints How do I get this working? Thanks, Scott ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: gnome applet can't initialize Clutter
On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 8:04 PM, Scott Chapman sc...@mischko.com wrote: I'm not very savvy about video drivers but looking here: http://www.vivantecorp.com/technology/3d.html It shows the GC2000 series (which I find is in the XO-4 here: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XO-4_Touch) supports a bunch of OpenGL API's. It's not the version that's shipped. /me confused On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 7:55 PM, Scott Chapman sc...@mischko.com wrote: I'm new to the XO-4. So it appears that nobody is running a GUI besides Sugar on these? No idea, I have a bunch of XO-4s and other XO devices as I was involved in the bring up of the ARM platforms and devices. We don't have opengl support in the X drivers because of the video type on these? Nope, welcome to closed drivers... The reverse engineered etna_viv driver will one day be usable with luck but it will depend on a newer upstream kernel. I wonder why OLPC published a build with Gnome if it is this broken? It's not completely broken, just some components. Peter On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 11:53 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: I don't remember the details of the 13.2.0 build, I seem to remember that it was the last release to include fall back mode. The gnome3 fallback mode had issues in that anything that was linked against clutter fails because of the lack of opengl support in all of the X drivers. Peter On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 7:50 PM, Scott Chapman sc...@mischko.com wrote: That appears to be the version included with the 13.2.0 build? What build should I downgrade to that will run Gnome correctly? Or is there an easy way to get a non-sugar GUI working on one of these? On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 11:48 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: most of the gnome3 stack won't currently run on any of the XOs Peter On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 7:42 PM, Scott Chapman sc...@mischko.com wrote: This affects other gnome commands such as gnome-control-panel as well. On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 12:40 AM, Scott Chapman sc...@mischko.com wrote: Hi! I just got an XO-4 and working to get some things working - bluetooth in this case. I installed the latest OLPC distro to the internal storage as follows from the ok prompt: fs-update u:\32013o4.zd booted to sugar - switched to Gnome Bluetooth applet won't show a screen when you right-click on the icon in upper right and select Bluetooth Settings. So, I killed the existing bluetooth-applet and ran another one from the command line in a terminal: [olpc@xo-d2-7f-9f ~]$ bluetooth-applet # Here I selected Bluetooth Settings in the new icon and got this: (gnome-control-center:1100): GModule-CRITICAL **: g_module_close: assertion `module-ref_count 0' failed (gnome-control-center:1100): Clutter-CRITICAL **: Unable to initialize Clutter: Failed to connected to any renderer due to constraints How do I get this working? Thanks, Scott ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: gnome applet can't initialize Clutter
How do we find that version? On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 12:06 PM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.comwrote: On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 8:04 PM, Scott Chapman sc...@mischko.com wrote: I'm not very savvy about video drivers but looking here: http://www.vivantecorp.com/technology/3d.html It shows the GC2000 series (which I find is in the XO-4 here: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XO-4_Touch) supports a bunch of OpenGL API's. It's not the version that's shipped. /me confused On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 7:55 PM, Scott Chapman sc...@mischko.com wrote: I'm new to the XO-4. So it appears that nobody is running a GUI besides Sugar on these? No idea, I have a bunch of XO-4s and other XO devices as I was involved in the bring up of the ARM platforms and devices. We don't have opengl support in the X drivers because of the video type on these? Nope, welcome to closed drivers... The reverse engineered etna_viv driver will one day be usable with luck but it will depend on a newer upstream kernel. I wonder why OLPC published a build with Gnome if it is this broken? It's not completely broken, just some components. Peter On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 11:53 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: I don't remember the details of the 13.2.0 build, I seem to remember that it was the last release to include fall back mode. The gnome3 fallback mode had issues in that anything that was linked against clutter fails because of the lack of opengl support in all of the X drivers. Peter On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 7:50 PM, Scott Chapman sc...@mischko.com wrote: That appears to be the version included with the 13.2.0 build? What build should I downgrade to that will run Gnome correctly? Or is there an easy way to get a non-sugar GUI working on one of these? On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 11:48 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: most of the gnome3 stack won't currently run on any of the XOs Peter On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 7:42 PM, Scott Chapman sc...@mischko.com wrote: This affects other gnome commands such as gnome-control-panel as well. On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 12:40 AM, Scott Chapman sc...@mischko.com wrote: Hi! I just got an XO-4 and working to get some things working - bluetooth in this case. I installed the latest OLPC distro to the internal storage as follows from the ok prompt: fs-update u:\32013o4.zd booted to sugar - switched to Gnome Bluetooth applet won't show a screen when you right-click on the icon in upper right and select Bluetooth Settings. So, I killed the existing bluetooth-applet and ran another one from the command line in a terminal: [olpc@xo-d2-7f-9f ~]$ bluetooth-applet # Here I selected Bluetooth Settings in the new icon and got this: (gnome-control-center:1100): GModule-CRITICAL **: g_module_close: assertion `module-ref_count 0' failed (gnome-control-center:1100): Clutter-CRITICAL **: Unable to initialize Clutter: Failed to connected to any renderer due to constraints How do I get this working? Thanks, Scott ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: gnome applet can't initialize Clutter
On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 8:06 PM, Scott Chapman sc...@mischko.com wrote: How do we find that version? It's not that simple. The GC2000 is a design that's sold and is made up of a number of components (2D, 3D, video decoding etc) which vendors can chose which they pay for. You then have to adjust the drivers to work with the SoC you purchase (Marvell MMP3 in the case of the XO-4, MMP2 in the case of the XO-1.75) and in some cases there is or isn't external video RAM and other things that need to be taken into account too. You then have to taylor the video drivers for the platform configuration and build them and ship them if you're lucky enough to have access to the source or deal with the upstream SoC manufacturer if your not, the code is closed so it's not something anyone can do. From memory we only shipped the 2D drivers, I don't remember the reasoning. You'd have to ask OLPC the reasons or if the 3D components exist. You could possibly do mesa based CPU rendering to make it work but it wouldn't be fast. I know there's work upstream to offload some of the CPU SW based rendering to the NEON extensions for ARMv7 that would work for for the XO-4 but not the 1.75 (it doesn't have a NEON engine) Peter On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 12:06 PM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 8:04 PM, Scott Chapman sc...@mischko.com wrote: I'm not very savvy about video drivers but looking here: http://www.vivantecorp.com/technology/3d.html It shows the GC2000 series (which I find is in the XO-4 here: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XO-4_Touch) supports a bunch of OpenGL API's. It's not the version that's shipped. /me confused On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 7:55 PM, Scott Chapman sc...@mischko.com wrote: I'm new to the XO-4. So it appears that nobody is running a GUI besides Sugar on these? No idea, I have a bunch of XO-4s and other XO devices as I was involved in the bring up of the ARM platforms and devices. We don't have opengl support in the X drivers because of the video type on these? Nope, welcome to closed drivers... The reverse engineered etna_viv driver will one day be usable with luck but it will depend on a newer upstream kernel. I wonder why OLPC published a build with Gnome if it is this broken? It's not completely broken, just some components. Peter On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 11:53 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: I don't remember the details of the 13.2.0 build, I seem to remember that it was the last release to include fall back mode. The gnome3 fallback mode had issues in that anything that was linked against clutter fails because of the lack of opengl support in all of the X drivers. Peter On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 7:50 PM, Scott Chapman sc...@mischko.com wrote: That appears to be the version included with the 13.2.0 build? What build should I downgrade to that will run Gnome correctly? Or is there an easy way to get a non-sugar GUI working on one of these? On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 11:48 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: most of the gnome3 stack won't currently run on any of the XOs Peter On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 7:42 PM, Scott Chapman sc...@mischko.com wrote: This affects other gnome commands such as gnome-control-panel as well. On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 12:40 AM, Scott Chapman sc...@mischko.com wrote: Hi! I just got an XO-4 and working to get some things working - bluetooth in this case. I installed the latest OLPC distro to the internal storage as follows from the ok prompt: fs-update u:\32013o4.zd booted to sugar - switched to Gnome Bluetooth applet won't show a screen when you right-click on the icon in upper right and select Bluetooth Settings. So, I killed the existing bluetooth-applet and ran another one from the command line in a terminal: [olpc@xo-d2-7f-9f ~]$ bluetooth-applet # Here I selected Bluetooth Settings in the new icon and got this: (gnome-control-center:1100): GModule-CRITICAL **: g_module_close: assertion `module-ref_count 0' failed (gnome-control-center:1100): Clutter-CRITICAL **: Unable to initialize Clutter: Failed to connected to any renderer due to constraints How do I get this working? Thanks, Scott ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org
Re: gnome applet can't initialize Clutter
Hi Scott, On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Scott Chapman sc...@mischko.com wrote: We don't have opengl support in the X drivers because of the video type on these? There is indeed a GPU capable of 3D graphics in the hardware, but we never completed the engineering effort required to make OpenGL/OpenGLES work in our software offering. We did try, but it was hard and the closed-source nature of the drivers made our lives unreasonably difficult, it was not our top priority, and we did not get it working right. Sorry about that. I wonder why OLPC published a build with Gnome if it is this broken? Any complex desktop product is going to have software bugs, and sadly it seems like you ran into one. However, outside of this limitation, I think you'll find that our minimal GNOME environment mostly works. Bluetooth is indeed a bit unexplored on this platform. During XO-4 development we did the necessary hardware and driver work, but did not have many resources to devote to offering a bluetooth user experience - this was planned to be addressed in a future software development cycle, and/or by OLPC's customers who were requesting bluetooth at a hardware level. Daniel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: gnome applet can't initialize Clutter
scott wrote: I'm new to the XO-4. So it appears that nobody is running a GUI besides Sugar on these? We don't have opengl support in the X drivers because of the video type on these? I wonder why OLPC published a build with Gnome if it is this broken? i think it's fine if you don't try to install new gnome things. i.e., what we shipped is self-consistent. we were aware of the bluetooth issues -- bluetooth wasn't needed by any of our deployments, so it was a low priority. i think we tested with the bluez stack. paul On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 11:53 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.comwrote: I don't remember the details of the 13.2.0 build, I seem to remember that it was the last release to include fall back mode. The gnome3 fallback mode had issues in that anything that was linked against clutter fails because of the lack of opengl support in all of the X drivers. Peter On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 7:50 PM, Scott Chapman sc...@mischko.com wrote: That appears to be the version included with the 13.2.0 build? What build should I downgrade to that will run Gnome correctly? Or is there an easy way to get a non-sugar GUI working on one of these? On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 11:48 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: most of the gnome3 stack won't currently run on any of the XOs Peter On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 7:42 PM, Scott Chapman sc...@mischko.com wrote: This affects other gnome commands such as gnome-control-panel as well. On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 12:40 AM, Scott Chapman sc...@mischko.com wrote: Hi! I just got an XO-4 and working to get some things working - bluetooth in this case. I installed the latest OLPC distro to the internal storage as follows from the ok prompt: fs-update u:\32013o4.zd booted to sugar - switched to Gnome Bluetooth applet won't show a screen when you right-click on the icon in upper right and select Bluetooth Settings. So, I killed the existing bluetooth-applet and ran another one from the command line in a terminal: [olpc@xo-d2-7f-9f ~]$ bluetooth-applet # Here I selected Bluetooth Settings in the new icon and got this: (gnome-control-center:1100): GModule-CRITICAL **: g_module_close: assertion `module-ref_count 0' failed (gnome-control-center:1100): Clutter-CRITICAL **: Unable to initialize Clutter: Failed to connected to any renderer due to constraints How do I get this working? Thanks, Scott ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel =- paul fox, p...@laptop.org ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: gnome applet can't initialize Clutter
Paul, The Gnome Control Panel is not present in the build. Am I missing something or is it left out also? How do you edit the menu system in Gnome without it, etc? On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Paul Fox p...@laptop.org wrote: scott wrote: I'm new to the XO-4. So it appears that nobody is running a GUI besides Sugar on these? We don't have opengl support in the X drivers because of the video type on these? I wonder why OLPC published a build with Gnome if it is this broken? i think it's fine if you don't try to install new gnome things. i.e., what we shipped is self-consistent. we were aware of the bluetooth issues -- bluetooth wasn't needed by any of our deployments, so it was a low priority. i think we tested with the bluez stack. paul On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 11:53 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: I don't remember the details of the 13.2.0 build, I seem to remember that it was the last release to include fall back mode. The gnome3 fallback mode had issues in that anything that was linked against clutter fails because of the lack of opengl support in all of the X drivers. Peter On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 7:50 PM, Scott Chapman sc...@mischko.com wrote: That appears to be the version included with the 13.2.0 build? What build should I downgrade to that will run Gnome correctly? Or is there an easy way to get a non-sugar GUI working on one of these? On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 11:48 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: most of the gnome3 stack won't currently run on any of the XOs Peter On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 7:42 PM, Scott Chapman sc...@mischko.com wrote: This affects other gnome commands such as gnome-control-panel as well. On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 12:40 AM, Scott Chapman sc...@mischko.com wrote: Hi! I just got an XO-4 and working to get some things working - bluetooth in this case. I installed the latest OLPC distro to the internal storage as follows from the ok prompt: fs-update u:\32013o4.zd booted to sugar - switched to Gnome Bluetooth applet won't show a screen when you right-click on the icon in upper right and select Bluetooth Settings. So, I killed the existing bluetooth-applet and ran another one from the command line in a terminal: [olpc@xo-d2-7f-9f ~]$ bluetooth-applet # Here I selected Bluetooth Settings in the new icon and got this: (gnome-control-center:1100): GModule-CRITICAL **: g_module_close: assertion `module-ref_count 0' failed (gnome-control-center:1100): Clutter-CRITICAL **: Unable to initialize Clutter: Failed to connected to any renderer due to constraints How do I get this working? Thanks, Scott ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel =- paul fox, p...@laptop.org ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: gnome applet can't initialize Clutter
scott wrote: Paul, The Gnome Control Panel is not present in the build. Am I missing something or is it left out also? How do you edit the menu system in Gnome without it, etc? i think you need to think about this differently: this isn't a gnome laptop. this is a sugar laptop, with the ability to do some gnome stuff if you need to. we didn't used to include gnome at all -- gnome was added because at some point the laptops got faster and had enough storage, and because one of our deployments wanted to be able to run some applications that weren't sugar-compatible. but when things got difficult (e.g., gnome3), we had to choose between getting a release out the door or not. paul On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Paul Fox p...@laptop.org wrote: scott wrote: I'm new to the XO-4. So it appears that nobody is running a GUI besides Sugar on these? We don't have opengl support in the X drivers because of the video type on these? I wonder why OLPC published a build with Gnome if it is this broken? i think it's fine if you don't try to install new gnome things. i.e., what we shipped is self-consistent. we were aware of the bluetooth issues -- bluetooth wasn't needed by any of our deployments, so it was a low priority. i think we tested with the bluez stack. paul On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 11:53 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: I don't remember the details of the 13.2.0 build, I seem to remember that it was the last release to include fall back mode. The gnome3 fallback mode had issues in that anything that was linked against clutter fails because of the lack of opengl support in all of the X drivers. Peter On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 7:50 PM, Scott Chapman sc...@mischko.com wrote: That appears to be the version included with the 13.2.0 build? What build should I downgrade to that will run Gnome correctly? Or is there an easy way to get a non-sugar GUI working on one of these? On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 11:48 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: most of the gnome3 stack won't currently run on any of the XOs Peter On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 7:42 PM, Scott Chapman sc...@mischko.com wrote: This affects other gnome commands such as gnome-control-panel as well. On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 12:40 AM, Scott Chapman sc...@mischko.com wrote: Hi! I just got an XO-4 and working to get some things working - bluetooth in this case. I installed the latest OLPC distro to the internal storage as follows from the ok prompt: fs-update u:\32013o4.zd booted to sugar - switched to Gnome Bluetooth applet won't show a screen when you right-click on the icon in upper right and select Bluetooth Settings. So, I killed the existing bluetooth-applet and ran another one from the command line in a terminal: [olpc@xo-d2-7f-9f ~]$ bluetooth-applet # Here I selected Bluetooth Settings in the new icon and got this: (gnome-control-center:1100): GModule-CRITICAL **: g_module_close: assertion `module-ref_count 0' failed (gnome-control-center:1100): Clutter-CRITICAL **: Unable to initialize Clutter: Failed to connected to any renderer due to constraints How do I get this working? Thanks, Scott ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel =- paul fox, p...@laptop.org =- paul fox, p...@laptop.org ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: gnome applet can't initialize Clutter
On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 12:40 PM, Scott Chapman sc...@mischko.com wrote: Paul, The Gnome Control Panel is not present in the build. Am I missing something or is it left out also? You aren't missing anything - based on feedback from OLPC's deployments we always tried to ship a minimal GNOME environment without too much configuration. You are welcome to make your own changes to add more bits, but unfortunately the control center will not work for the same reason as the bluetooth applet, mentioned at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/13.2.0#GNOME How do you edit the menu system in Gnome without it, etc? Looking at the gnome control center on my non-XO laptop I don't really see any menu configuration options there. Really the menu contents are defined automatically by the apps that are installed. But GNOME does indeed have some underlying configuration which can affect the appearance. If you clarify exactly what you're trying to do, maybe someone will check if it is possible and if so, look up the exact gconf/gsettings command invocation for you. Daniel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
