Re: ip4-address buddy property - still needed?

2007-11-17 Thread Giannis Galanis
The feature, although not usable by the activities, it has other benefits. By observing the buddy list, you acquire instant information of the network connection go the users: when connected to channel 1 for example: 169.254.x.x address are in link-local 172.18.x.x are connected to schoolserver w

Re: ip4-address buddy property - still needed?

2007-11-02 Thread Ivan Krstić
On Nov 2, 2007, at 9:17 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: > Also I think integrating and properly supporting Pascal's log > collector would go a long way in facilitating testing. Working on this bit. -- Ivan Krstić <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | http://radian.org

Re: ip4-address buddy property - still needed?

2007-11-02 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On 11/3/07, Walter Bender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Did this ticket every get opened? I think a lot of problems would be solved > if you could open the various consoles on someone else's XO... I haven't seen tickets yet. Opening Log and Analyze remotely should be relatively easy. Also I think i

Re: ip4-address buddy property - still needed?

2007-11-02 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On 10/30/07, Michail Bletsas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, we need a relatively user-friendly way to query for that information. > I don't reall care what it is called as long as I can instruct somebody to > bring it up with a minimum number of clicks. I think key bindings for both Log and Ana

Re: ip4-address buddy property - still needed?

2007-11-02 Thread Walter Bender
Did this ticket every get opened? I think a lot of problems would be solved if you could open the various consoles on someone else's XO... -walter On 10/30/07, Marco Pesenti Gritti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 10/30/07, Erik Blankinship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > While I welcome the new

Re: ip4-address buddy property - still needed?

2007-10-30 Thread Michail Bletsas
Yes, we need a relatively user-friendly way to query for that information. I don't reall care what it is called as long as I can instruct somebody to bring it up with a minimum number of clicks. M. Sjoerd Simons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 10/30/2007 08:59:36 AM: > On Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 0

Re: ip4-address buddy property - still needed?

2007-10-30 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On 10/30/07, Erik Blankinship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > While I welcome the new activities and think it is great to integrate them > into sugar, can we reconsider completely doing away with the dev console? > It is /very/ useful to have the console open on an xo while the activity you > are debu

Re: ip4-address buddy property - still needed?

2007-10-30 Thread Erik Blankinship
While I welcome the new activities and think it is great to integrate them into sugar, can we reconsider completely doing away with the dev console? It is /very/ useful to have the console open on an xo while the activity you are debugging is running behind it. Can't you have both the old console

Re: ip4-address buddy property - still needed?

2007-10-30 Thread Eduardo Silva
Please check: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Developer_Environment On 10/30/07, Marco Pesenti Gritti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 10/30/07, Sjoerd Simons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 01:18:17PM -0400, Michail Bletsas wrote: > > > At this point in time, having as much debug

Re: ip4-address buddy property - still needed?

2007-10-30 Thread Eduardo Silva
> > At this point in time, having as much debug info available in the > > developer console without having to remember which command-line tool > > provides what, is crucial for collecting problem reports from non-expert > > users and I would request that the IPv4 information remains where it is. I

Re: ip4-address buddy property - still needed?

2007-10-30 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On 10/30/07, Sjoerd Simons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 01:18:17PM -0400, Michail Bletsas wrote: > > At this point in time, having as much debug info available in the > > developer console without having to remember which command-line tool > > provides what, is crucial for c

Re: ip4-address buddy property - still needed?

2007-10-30 Thread Sjoerd Simons
On Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 01:18:17PM -0400, Michail Bletsas wrote: > At this point in time, having as much debug info available in the > developer console without having to remember which command-line tool > provides what, is crucial for collecting problem reports from non-expert > users and I wou

Re: ip4-address buddy property - still needed?

2007-10-26 Thread Michail Bletsas
At this point in time, having as much debug info available in the developer console without having to remember which command-line tool provides what, is crucial for collecting problem reports from non-expert users and I would request that the IPv4 information remains where it is. Michail __

Re: ip4-address buddy property - still needed?

2007-10-26 Thread Giannis Galanis
Several parts for your replies refer to issues we have discussed before. The tickets 4463,4405,4404,4403 include the new requirements and enhancements for the presence service, in benefit of user+developer To summarize 1. User+devel should be able to switch between gabble to salut manually using

Re: ip4-address buddy property - still needed?

2007-10-26 Thread Sjoerd Simons
On Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 12:20:01AM -0400, Giannis Galanis wrote: > The feature, although not usable by the activities, it has other benefits. > > By observing the buddy list, you acquire instant information of the network > connection go the users: > when connected to channel 1 for example: > 169.

Re: ip4-address buddy property - still needed?

2007-10-26 Thread Simon McVittie
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 at 00:20:01 -0400, Giannis Galanis wrote: > The feature, although not usable by the activities, it has other benefits. > > By observing the buddy list, you acquire instant information of the network > connection go the users: > whe

Re: ip4-address buddy property - still needed?

2007-10-25 Thread Giannis Galanis
The feature, although not usable by the activities, it has other benefits. By observing the buddy list, you acquire instant information of the network connection go the users: when connected to channel 1 for example: 169.254.x.x address are in link-local 172.18.x.x are connected to schoolserver w

Re: ip4-address buddy property - still needed?

2007-10-25 Thread Jim Gettys
It seems, from your discussion like unless someone grumbles today, this should be removed immediately. And it removed within a week, even if someone grumbles... - Jim On Thu, 2007-10-25 at 10:15 +0100, Simon McVittie wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash

Re: ip4-address buddy property - still needed?

2007-10-25 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Erik Blankinship wrote: > Record uses ip4-address, but we've just about completed Record Tubes > (and it is working great). Should Activity developers assume that stream tubes will be available in both Gabble and Salut by OLPC 1.0? - --Ben -BEGIN

Re: ip4-address buddy property - still needed?

2007-10-25 Thread Erik Blankinship
> We still have one set of OLPC-specific patches to Salut (the link- > local > collaboration backend) that has been rejected upstream, which is > the one > that adds support for the deprecated ip4-address buddy property. > > Is anyone still using this property? If not, can we kill it? It was > adde

Re: ip4-address buddy property - still needed?

2007-10-25 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Oct 25, 2007, at 5:15 , Simon McVittie wrote: > We still have one set of OLPC-specific patches to Salut (the link- > local > collaboration backend) that has been rejected upstream, which is > the one > that adds support for the deprecated ip4-address buddy property. > > Is anyone still using

Re: ip4-address buddy property - still needed?

2007-10-25 Thread Dan Williams
On Thu, 2007-10-25 at 10:15 +0100, Simon McVittie wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > We still have one set of OLPC-specific patches to Salut (the link-local > collaboration backend) that has been rejected upstream, which is the one > that adds support for the deprecated i

ip4-address buddy property - still needed?

2007-10-25 Thread Simon McVittie
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 We still have one set of OLPC-specific patches to Salut (the link-local collaboration backend) that has been rejected upstream, which is the one that adds support for the deprecated ip4-address buddy property. This was used during a transitional period