Re: price point + sales to individuals

2009-02-18 Thread david
On Wed, 18 Feb 2009, Holt wrote:

> CORRECTION: The Contributors Program is in fact operational, and will be
> undergoing pretty radical enhancement going forward, including local XO
> Projects Pools / Laptop Lending Libraries wherever we find responsible
> stewards worldwide (email if you can help!)
>http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Contributors_program
>
> Submit applications for free XO Laptop(s) here, if you have any Project
> idea that will genuinely contribute to the OLPC/Sugar community:
>http://projectdb.olpc.at  (site may change in future!)
>
> Please specify if you would like a Mentor to help you along -- I and our
> dedicated http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Support_Gang will do our best to
> help you nurture your Project wherever we can,
> --Holt
>
> PS other great avenues for obtaining (and giving) individual XO's are
> listed here:
>  http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Support_FAQ

there is also the issue that statments have been made that the new 2009 
give-many program is due to be scrapped at any second, at which time it 
will be impossible for any originization to get quantities <10,000

that will interfere with a lot of self-directed projects.

the availablility of the XO laptops _is_ an issue, for individuals and 
schools.

David Lang


>
> p...@laptop.org wrote:
>> bert wrote:
>> > On 18.02.2009, at 18:01, John Watlington wrote:
>> >
>> >> We already have a developer program where we give away laptops
>> >> to interested people.
>> >
>> >
>> > This is for people already committed, already part of the community.
>> > It's a great program, I got my XOs from it.
>>
>> it's also only great when it's operational.  i have no knowledge
>> of its current status, but there have been many complaints in the
>> last year or so that the program had stagnated.
>>
>> paul
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Re: price point + sales to individuals

2009-02-18 Thread Holt
CORRECTION: The Contributors Program is in fact operational, and will be 
undergoing pretty radical enhancement going forward, including local XO 
Projects Pools / Laptop Lending Libraries wherever we find responsible 
stewards worldwide (email if you can help!)
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Contributors_program

Submit applications for free XO Laptop(s) here, if you have any Project 
idea that will genuinely contribute to the OLPC/Sugar community:
http://projectdb.olpc.at  (site may change in future!)

Please specify if you would like a Mentor to help you along -- I and our 
dedicated http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Support_Gang will do our best to 
help you nurture your Project wherever we can,
--Holt

PS other great avenues for obtaining (and giving) individual XO's are 
listed here:
  http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Support_FAQ


p...@laptop.org wrote:
> bert wrote:
>  > On 18.02.2009, at 18:01, John Watlington wrote:
>  > 
>  > > We already have a developer program where we give away laptops
>  > > to interested people.
>  > 
>  > 
>  > This is for people already committed, already part of the community.  
>  > It's a great program, I got my XOs from it.
>
> it's also only great when it's operational.  i have no knowledge
> of its current status, but there have been many complaints in the
> last year or so that the program had stagnated.
>
> paul
> =-
>  paul fox, p...@laptop.org
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Re: price point + sales to individuals

2009-02-18 Thread pgf
bert wrote:
 > On 18.02.2009, at 18:01, John Watlington wrote:
 > 
 > > We already have a developer program where we give away laptops
 > > to interested people.
 > 
 > 
 > This is for people already committed, already part of the community.  
 > It's a great program, I got my XOs from it.

it's also only great when it's operational.  i have no knowledge
of its current status, but there have been many complaints in the
last year or so that the program had stagnated.

paul
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Re: price point + sales to individuals

2009-02-18 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 18.02.2009, at 18:01, John Watlington wrote:

> We already have a developer program where we give away laptops
> to interested people.


This is for people already committed, already part of the community.  
It's a great program, I got my XOs from it.

But it does not get new people into the community. Like those who want  
to tinker in private. Do something cool because it's a cool machine.  
They would happily shell out a couple hundred bucks even if you slap a  
"no warranty at all" sticker on the order page. This will not reach as  
many people as g1g1 2007, but having a place to simply order is  
essential (even more so for long term projects like in classrooms).

- Bert -


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Re: price point + sales to individuals

2009-02-18 Thread John Watlington

On Feb 18, 2009, at 8:24 AM, Carlos Nazareno wrote:

>> In summary, you'd like to see a lower price.
>
> No, in summary, I'm thinking maybe this can be a two-birds with one
> stone approach to:
>
> a) Save OLPC financially by selling XO units with a little profit to
> all takers as Yama said. Why not tie up with and physically stock some
> units at computer/electronics stores since there are logistical
> problems with shipping to individuals? (this would also entail some
> marketing and evangelism to show how the XO is different from netbooks
> - I suspect it'd be a hit with the outdoors crowd, much like when GPS
> devices were new)

OK.   So someone has to provide, up front, the money to build the
units for stocking those retail stores.   This same organization would
handle marketing and evangelism.   Guess what ?   You've reinvented
HP/Dell/Lenovo, etc.

> b) Increase the number of software developers, contributors, content
> authors and testers by getting XO units into more peoples' hands. (see
> homebrew scene popularity and success stories: what more with a
> dev-friendly environment like the XO?)

We already have a developer program where we give away laptops
to interested people.

Cheers,
wad
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Re: price point + sales to individuals

2009-02-18 Thread Carlos Nazareno
> In summary, you'd like to see a lower price.

No, in summary, I'm thinking maybe this can be a two-birds with one
stone approach to:

a) Save OLPC financially by selling XO units with a little profit to
all takers as Yama said. Why not tie up with and physically stock some
units at computer/electronics stores since there are logistical
problems with shipping to individuals? (this would also entail some
marketing and evangelism to show how the XO is different from netbooks
- I suspect it'd be a hit with the outdoors crowd, much like when GPS
devices were new)

b) Increase the number of software developers, contributors, content
authors and testers by getting XO units into more peoples' hands. (see
homebrew scene popularity and success stories: what more with a
dev-friendly environment like the XO?)

Best regards,

-Naz

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