Re: resurrected XO-1.5, died again

2013-07-03 Thread John Watlington
I'm tired of revisiting an issue that thankfully only affected less than a thousand production units (repaired under a catastrophic failure clause). Unfortunately, the effect on our developer community was disastrous, as they only received affected units. I'm willing to send an XO-4 to replace a

Re: resurrected XO-1.5, died again

2013-07-02 Thread Ian MacArthur
On 2 Jul 2013, at 08:58, Yioryos Asprobounitis wrote: > Back to the original question. Should I conclude at this point that there is > no information/experience on the effect of repetition on the effectiveness > of the soldering reflow process? (ie try and see what happens ;) No OLPC informati

Re: resurrected XO-1.5, died again

2013-07-02 Thread James Cameron
On Tue, Jul 02, 2013 at 12:58:17AM -0700, Yioryos Asprobounitis wrote: > Back to the original question. Should I conclude at this point that > there is no information/experience  on the effect of repetition on > the effectiveness of the soldering reflow process? (ie try and see > what happens ;) B

Re: resurrected XO-1.5, died again

2013-07-02 Thread Yioryos Asprobounitis
>> I agree.  I've found laptops with looser-than-i-would-like hinge and >> motherboard screws after children have been using them.  The hinge >> screws that are uncovered by disassembly were the most interesting. > > There was a problem with the manufacturing process which > resulted in some o

Re: resurrected XO-1.5, died again

2013-07-01 Thread John Watlington
On Jul 1, 2013, at 6:24 PM, James Cameron wrote: > I agree. I've found laptops with looser-than-i-would-like hinge and > motherboard screws after children have been using them. The hinge > screws that are uncovered by disassembly were the most interesting. There was a problem with the manufact

Re: resurrected XO-1.5, died again

2013-07-01 Thread James Cameron
On Mon, Jul 01, 2013 at 11:16:29AM -0400, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 6:51 AM, Yioryos Asprobounitis > wrote: > >> Yes. ;-) > >> > > Oh, good. That clears it then. > > Thanks for the insight :-P > > Perhaps repeated torsion on the board is one of the factors at play. > You ma

Re: resurrected XO-1.5, died again

2013-07-01 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 6:51 AM, Yioryos Asprobounitis wrote: >> Yes. ;-) >> > Oh, good. That clears it then. > Thanks for the insight :-P Perhaps repeated torsion on the board is one of the factors at play. You may get a longer life out of it by ensuring that the unit is tightly assembled (speci

Re: resurrected XO-1.5, died again

2013-07-01 Thread Yioryos Asprobounitis
- Original Message - > From: James Cameron > To: Yioryos Asprobounitis > Cc: OLPC Devel > Sent: Monday, July 1, 2013 1:42 PM > Subject: Re: resurrected XO-1.5, died again > > On Mon, Jul 01, 2013 at 02:19:07AM -0700, Yioryos Asprobounitis wrote: >> I gu

Re: resurrected XO-1.5, died again

2013-07-01 Thread James Cameron
On Mon, Jul 01, 2013 at 02:19:07AM -0700, Yioryos Asprobounitis wrote: > I guess what I'm asking is that the original board was good for more > than 2 years. After the reflow, lasted 8 months. > Is a second reflow likely to last 8 months or 8 days (if at all)? Yes. ;-) -- James Cameron http://q

Re: resurrected XO-1.5, died again

2013-07-01 Thread Yioryos Asprobounitis
- Original Message - > From: James Cameron > To: Yioryos Asprobounitis > Cc: OLPC Devel > Sent: Monday, July 1, 2013 11:02 AM > Subject: Re: resurrected XO-1.5, died again > > On Mon, Jul 01, 2013 at 12:53:47AM -0700, Yioryos Asprobounitis wrote: >> I d

Re: resurrected XO-1.5, died again

2013-07-01 Thread James Cameron
On Mon, Jul 01, 2013 at 12:53:47AM -0700, Yioryos Asprobounitis wrote: > I do not know for how long the "toasted" [1] XO-1.5 boards worked > but my "oven baked" [2] board died again after 8 months of daily use > and a guestimated 400+ hours. I do not know if this is long enough > to justify the pr

resurrected XO-1.5, died again

2013-07-01 Thread Yioryos Asprobounitis
I do not know for how long the "toasted" [1] XO-1.5 boards worked but my "oven baked" [2] board died again after 8 months of daily use and a guestimated 400+ hours. I do not know if this is long enough to justify the process (roughly half a school year worth, I would guess), but I thought to rec