Re: status of OLPC project

2009-01-26 Thread Bernie Innocenti
Bernie Innocenti wrote:
> [cc += sugar-de...@]
> 
> Victor Lazzarini wrote:
>> Thanks. Walter has kindly replied to me already, so it
>> looks like sugar labs is my destination. Hope to be able to
>> clear up all my marking by the end of next week and by
>> then I think will also know where I actually fit into this
>> new scheme of things.
>>
>> I'm happy to be back.
> 
> Thanks a lot for helping!

Oops, I didn't notice this was an 3 weeks old thread that had jumped
back to the top due to Bastien's recent post.

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Re: status of OLPC project

2009-01-26 Thread Bernie Innocenti
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Victor Lazzarini wrote:
> Thanks. Walter has kindly replied to me already, so it
> looks like sugar labs is my destination. Hope to be able to
> clear up all my marking by the end of next week and by
> then I think will also know where I actually fit into this
> new scheme of things.
> 
> I'm happy to be back.

Thanks a lot for helping!

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Re: status of OLPC project

2009-01-25 Thread Bastien
"Martin Langhoff"  writes:

>> just wanted to know who is taking care of what now.
>
> that's fair enough, but it'll take some time to settle. Maybe post to
> de...@l.o and the sugar devel list and hope whomever is looking after
> component X to answer?

It's now two weeks since that message.  

Anyone volunteering to build such a who's who at OLPC HQ?

Thanks!

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Re: status of OLPC project

2009-01-25 Thread Bastien
"C. Scott Ananian"  writes:

> On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Bastien  wrote:
>> Victor Lazzarini  writes:
>>
>>> [...] In other words, it would be useful to get a who's who for the
>>> project.
>>
>> +1
>
> Please have some consideration for the recently unemployed.  

(Sorry if my "+1" sounded a bit rough, that was not my intention.)

I hope we can have an exhaustive who's who on the web soon.  Every
single community I know out there uses the web the make everyone know
who does what.  I wish the same can be done with OLPC HQ.

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Re: status of OLPC project

2009-01-09 Thread Martin Langhoff
> just wanted to know who is taking care of what now.

that's fair enough, but it'll take some time to settle. Maybe post to
de...@l.o and the sugar devel list and hope whomever is looking after
component X to answer?

cheers,


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Re: status of OLPC project

2009-01-09 Thread victor
Well, I am sorry I did not know the situation, so that is why
I asked. However, I did not ask about who was laid off, but
just wanted to know who is taking care of what now. At some
point, this will need to be divulged, I expect?

Victor
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Subject: Re: status of OLPC project


> On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Bastien  
> wrote:
>> Victor Lazzarini  writes:
>>
>>> [...] In other words, it would be useful to get a who's who for the
>>> project.
>>
>> +1
>
> Please have some consideration for the recently unemployed.  Not
> everyone wants this fact announced to the world, and Ed would
> certainly be out of place as manager if he were to do so preemptively.
> I don't know, but there may even be contractors or others who OLPC
> management has not been able to get in touch with, who don't yet know
> their job status.  Please be patient.
>
> I expect those who are comfortable announcing their employment status
> will do so, here or in some other appropriate venue.
>  --scott
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Re: status of OLPC project

2009-01-09 Thread Ed McNierney
Victor & Scott -

Sorry - I made a comment about this on an earlier email, but I just  
realized that that message wasn't sent to the devel list.

Scott's quite right.  I firmly believe that whenever possible a layoff  
is handled with a face-to-face conversation with your manager.  It  
isn't fun for either party, but you don't duck that job.  Because of  
travel and other schedules, some folks didn't have those conversations  
until yesterday afternoon and I actually didn't have my very last one  
until this morning.  No one wants to learn they've lost their job  
through a public mailing list.  And in addition, some people would  
like the opportunity to communicate the news to their friends, family,  
and colleagues on their own terms rather than having me announce it  
for them.

This week the people being laid off are my #1 priority, and I need to  
spend the time to make sure everyone else at OLPC does whatever we can  
to help.  Next week I can help communicate things more broadly to the  
wider world.

- Ed

On Jan 9, 2009, at 1:10 PM, C. Scott Ananian wrote:

> On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Bastien  
>  wrote:
>> Victor Lazzarini  writes:
>>
>>> [...] In other words, it would be useful to get a who's who for the
>>> project.
>>
>> +1
>
> Please have some consideration for the recently unemployed.  Not
> everyone wants this fact announced to the world, and Ed would
> certainly be out of place as manager if he were to do so preemptively.
> I don't know, but there may even be contractors or others who OLPC
> management has not been able to get in touch with, who don't yet know
> their job status.  Please be patient.
>
> I expect those who are comfortable announcing their employment status
> will do so, here or in some other appropriate venue.
>  --scott
>
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Re: status of OLPC project

2009-01-09 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Bastien  wrote:
> Victor Lazzarini  writes:
>
>> [...] In other words, it would be useful to get a who's who for the
>> project.
>
> +1

Please have some consideration for the recently unemployed.  Not
everyone wants this fact announced to the world, and Ed would
certainly be out of place as manager if he were to do so preemptively.
 I don't know, but there may even be contractors or others who OLPC
management has not been able to get in touch with, who don't yet know
their job status.  Please be patient.

I expect those who are comfortable announcing their employment status
will do so, here or in some other appropriate venue.
  --scott

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Re: status of OLPC project

2009-01-09 Thread Bastien
Victor Lazzarini  writes:

> [...] In other words, it would be useful to get a who's who for the
> project.

+1

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Re: status of OLPC project

2009-01-09 Thread Ed McNierney
Victor -

Thanks!  I agree with Ben that connecting with the Sugar Labs  
community is the right start and an excellent focus.  If you do need  
to have XO-specific conversations as well, I would be happy to be the  
contact person to do that.

- Ed


On Jan 9, 2009, at 9:54 AM, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote:

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> Victor Lazzarini wrote:
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I have not been able to work on anything new for OLPC for the past  
>> four months,
>> given my  heavy teaching schedule. However, now I am just about to  
>> go on
>> research leave and one of my goals was to do some work on the music/ 
>> sound
>> side of things for the XO. So I am now wondering whether 1) there is
>> any work to
>> do, and 2) who to liaise at OLPC, since things seem to have changed
>> dramatically,
>> particularly with Jim Gettys leaving. In other words, it would be  
>> useful to
>> get a who's who for the project. Also, what bits are going to be  
>> moved out to
>> sugarlabs (so I wonder if they are the ones to work for now, as far  
>> as audio
>> development is concerned).
>
> 1) There is lots of work to do.  There are 500,000 XO users and  
> rising,
> virtually all of whom run Sugar.  They need and want updates and new
> functionality for learning.  They don't care about where this  
> happens in
> some corporate shell game.  Sugar Labs is also expanding Sugar onto  
> non-XO
> computers.  We are growing.
>
> 2) I can't help with this.
>
> Regarding with whom to work: I would definitely place audio  
> development
> under the Sugar Labs umbrella, unless the work in question is somehow
> specific to the XO hardware.  For you, working on music, I think the  
> place
> to be is Sugar Labs.  The people to talk to are Walter, Tomeu, and  
> anyone
> else on the sugar mailing list, which is now sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org
>
> I'm excited to have you back in the project.
>
> - --Ben
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Re: status of OLPC project

2009-01-09 Thread Victor Lazzarini
Thanks. Walter has kindly replied to me already, so it
looks like sugar labs is my destination. Hope to be able to
clear up all my marking by the end of next week and by
then I think will also know where I actually fit into this
new scheme of things.

I'm happy to be back.

Regards

Victor

At 14:54 09/01/2009, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote:
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>Victor Lazzarini wrote:
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > I have not been able to work on anything new for OLPC for the 
> past four months,
> > given my  heavy teaching schedule. However, now I am just about to go on
> > research leave and one of my goals was to do some work on the music/sound
> > side of things for the XO. So I am now wondering whether 1) there is
> > any work to
> > do, and 2) who to liaise at OLPC, since things seem to have changed
> > dramatically,
> > particularly with Jim Gettys leaving. In other words, it would be useful to
> > get a who's who for the project. Also, what bits are going to be 
> moved out to
> > sugarlabs (so I wonder if they are the ones to work for now, as 
> far as audio
> > development is concerned).
>
>1) There is lots of work to do.  There are 500,000 XO users and rising,
>virtually all of whom run Sugar.  They need and want updates and new
>functionality for learning.  They don't care about where this happens in
>some corporate shell game.  Sugar Labs is also expanding Sugar onto non-XO
>computers.  We are growing.
>
>2) I can't help with this.
>
>Regarding with whom to work: I would definitely place audio development
>under the Sugar Labs umbrella, unless the work in question is somehow
>specific to the XO hardware.  For you, working on music, I think the place
>to be is Sugar Labs.  The people to talk to are Walter, Tomeu, and anyone
>else on the sugar mailing list, which is now sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org
>
>I'm excited to have you back in the project.
>
>- --Ben
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Music Technology Laboratory
Music Department
National University of Ireland, Maynooth 

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Re: status of OLPC project

2009-01-09 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
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Victor Lazzarini wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> 
> I have not been able to work on anything new for OLPC for the past four 
> months,
> given my  heavy teaching schedule. However, now I am just about to go on
> research leave and one of my goals was to do some work on the music/sound
> side of things for the XO. So I am now wondering whether 1) there is 
> any work to
> do, and 2) who to liaise at OLPC, since things seem to have changed 
> dramatically,
> particularly with Jim Gettys leaving. In other words, it would be useful to
> get a who's who for the project. Also, what bits are going to be moved out to
> sugarlabs (so I wonder if they are the ones to work for now, as far as audio
> development is concerned).

1) There is lots of work to do.  There are 500,000 XO users and rising,
virtually all of whom run Sugar.  They need and want updates and new
functionality for learning.  They don't care about where this happens in
some corporate shell game.  Sugar Labs is also expanding Sugar onto non-XO
computers.  We are growing.

2) I can't help with this.

Regarding with whom to work: I would definitely place audio development
under the Sugar Labs umbrella, unless the work in question is somehow
specific to the XO hardware.  For you, working on music, I think the place
to be is Sugar Labs.  The people to talk to are Walter, Tomeu, and anyone
else on the sugar mailing list, which is now sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org

I'm excited to have you back in the project.

- --Ben
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status of OLPC project

2009-01-09 Thread Victor Lazzarini
Hi everyone,

I have not been able to work on anything new for OLPC for the past four months,
given my  heavy teaching schedule. However, now I am just about to go on
research leave and one of my goals was to do some work on the music/sound
side of things for the XO. So I am now wondering whether 1) there is 
any work to
do, and 2) who to liaise at OLPC, since things seem to have changed 
dramatically,
particularly with Jim Gettys leaving. In other words, it would be useful to
get a who's who for the project. Also, what bits are going to be moved out to
sugarlabs (so I wonder if they are the ones to work for now, as far as audio
development is concerned).

I am very sorry for all those leaving and wish all the best for their future.

Thanks

Victor Lazzarini
Music Technology Laboratory
Music Department
National University of Ireland, Maynooth 

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