Re: using the browser as an activity platform : pyxpcom / hulahop / Gears
On Sat, Feb 16, 2008 at 10:21 AM, Samuel Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The core use here is being able to use the browser as activity platform -- letting web developers good at JS code and test on most any platform, and develop something that can be a first-class activity within Sugar. One example is Dan's javascript spreadsheet, anothe ris a dynamic library (see for instance http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Dynamic_library), another is an existing web service online that one might want to run locally. In addition to pyxpcom, let me add Google Gears as a useful piece of this platform, especially when offering local use of popular online tools. Off the top of my head, MediaWiki, MindMeister, I copy Ben Lisbakken, a gears maintainer, who reports that there is a Gears patch to make it work without extension support... Ben, I'll also introduce you to marcopg separately. At the Google Web Toolkit conference in December 2007, many of the developers, along with conference sponsor Pearson Education, expressed interest in working on XO projects in several computer languages. One of us could guest blog on the subject, or take it up on their mailing list. http://code.google.com/webtoolkit/ Java to platform-independent JavaScript compiler. http://googlewebtoolkit.blogspot.com/ Current post: Spreading the word about pollution in the US: MapEcos, built with GWT This relates to the recent Engineers Without Borders query. http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Web-Toolkit This is the official discussion forum for GWT. -- Edward Cherlin End Poverty at a Profit by teaching children business http://www.EarthTreasury.org/ The best way to predict the future is to invent it.--Alan Kay ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: using the browser as an activity platform : pyxpcom / hulahop / Gears
Thanks; and hello, Brad. I'm creating a related wikireader group to address offline reader development; only one of the uses of gears on the XO. Please list yourself at [[Wikireader]] if you want to join. SJ On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Ben Lisbakken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm going to add Brad Neuberg to this conversation. He is a colleague of mine on the Google Gears project and he has been looking for a contact at OLPC. -Ben On Sun, Feb 17, 2008 at 12:12 PM, ffm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 16, 2008 6:21 PM, Samuel Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The core use here is being able to use the browser as activity platform -- letting web developers good at JS code and test on most any platform, and develop something that can be a first-class activity within Sugar. One example is Dan's javascript spreadsheet, anothe ris a dynamic library (see for instance http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Dynamic_library), another is an existing web service online that one might want to run locally. In addition to pyxpcom, let me add Google Gears as a useful piece of this platform, especially when offering local use of popular online tools. Off the top of my head, MediaWiki, MindMeister, I copy Ben Lisbakken, a gears maintainer, who reports that there is a Gears patch to make it work without extension support... Is there any way that one could get involved with the google-gears-on-the-xo spec drafting/implementation process? This is something I might be interested in contributing to, but I cannot find anything about it on the wiki. -FFM ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: using the browser as an activity platform : pyxpcom / hulahop / Gears
On Feb 16, 2008 6:21 PM, Samuel Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The core use here is being able to use the browser as activity platform -- letting web developers good at JS code and test on most any platform, and develop something that can be a first-class activity within Sugar. One example is Dan's javascript spreadsheet, anothe ris a dynamic library (see for instance http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Dynamic_library), another is an existing web service online that one might want to run locally. In addition to pyxpcom, let me add Google Gears as a useful piece of this platform, especially when offering local use of popular online tools. Off the top of my head, MediaWiki, MindMeister, I copy Ben Lisbakken, a gears maintainer, who reports that there is a Gears patch to make it work without extension support... Is there any way that one could get involved with the google-gears-on-the-xo spec drafting/implementation process? This is something I might be interested in contributing to, but I cannot find anything about it on the wiki. -FFM ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: using the browser as an activity platform : pyxpcom / hulahop / Gears
The core use here is being able to use the browser as activity
platform -- letting web developers good at JS code and test on most
any platform, and develop something that can be a first-class activity
within Sugar. One example is Dan's javascript spreadsheet, anothe ris
a dynamic library (see for instance
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Dynamic_library), another is an existing web
service online that one might want to run locally.
In addition to pyxpcom, let me add Google Gears as a useful piece of
this platform, especially when offering local use of popular online
tools. Off the top of my head, MediaWiki, MindMeister, I copy Ben
Lisbakken, a gears maintainer, who reports that there is a Gears patch
to make it work without extension support... Ben, I'll also introduce
you to marcopg separately.
SJ
On Feb 16, 2008 12:36 PM, Samuel Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Moving this thread to devel. SJ
Marco wrote:
Hello,
I'm really excited about this work. Hulahop is one of the things which
I'd really to develop further but I never get time for it. So it's
awesome you guys are looking into it.
I agree with Tomeu, though. Please move the discussion on the public
mailing list. Can someone take care to post a summary of the discussions
and the work which has been done so far?
Thanks!
On Feb 16, 2008 11:54 AM, edward baafi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Luke,
It appears from your code snippet that you have a browse activity build
which has pyxpcom enabled.. Is this built by default on Joyride? If not,
how can you best get me access to your pyxpcom enabled environment?
What I've discussed with SJ and Manu is a somewhat different approach than
what you seem to be pursuing.. We're looking at wrapping core functionality
we want access to from javascript (ex: launching journal to browse for or
save a file) in xpcom interfaces.. Then one could simply write javascript
code to manipulate the DOM with hooks into sugar stuff like journal,
presence, sharing, etc.. I'm not sure how Mozilla's privileged code model
will relate to bitfrost, but I think this route is worth pursuing..
Alternatively, if you are interested in using python to manipulate the DOM,
this is also possible directly
(http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/PyDOM).. This should be possible in
your build or it is a simple config (--enable-extensions=python,default)
change..
Looking forward,
Ed
On Feb 14, 2008 5:47 PM, Manusheel Gupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Luke,
Thanks for the update.
I wish to introduce you to Edward Baafi, who has been working with PyXPCOM
for a long time. Me, SJ, and Edward had a detailed discussion about
JavaScript-Sugar integration yesterday. Komodo, a project from the
ActiveState Community is an interesting use-case that can be very useful to
the Spreadsheet project.
Edward directed us to the following links:
http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg02285.html
http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Mail/Message/pyxpcom/3476506
Edward,
Thanks a lot for your pointers.
Regards,
Manu
Manusheel Gupta
Technical Consultant and Adviser
One Laptop Per Child Inc.
http://laptop.org
On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Luke Closs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Hello guys,
So tonight I made some progress on the python - js communication,
and I also better understand how activity load/saving should work.
In my python code, when I set up the WebView object, I can
addEventListener for the 'click' event. Then I create a python class
that is called when I click on the HTML page. In the event listener,
I can check for event targets with a certain id.
I set this up for a certain span in a simple HTML page, and my python
code could grab the content from inside the span, and change it! The
code looks like this:
class EventListener:
_com_interfaces_ = components.interfaces.nsIDOMEventListener
def handleEvent(self, event):
t = event.target
if t.id != 'count': return
elem = t.queryInterface(components.interfaces.nsIDOM3Node);
print elem.textContent
elem.textContent = '42'
web_view.window_root.addEventListener('click', EventListener(), False)
With this bit of understanding, I need to start thinking about exactly
how we'll integrate with the spreadsheet. I'll start thinking of the
2 main actions:
save:
* python fires event to say start saving
* js runs code to create the content to be saved, sticks it into an
element
* js fires event to say ready to save on the element
* python reads textContent from event target
* python saves to disk
load:
* python reads from disk
* python writes content into dom
* python fires event to say ready to load
I need to extend my simple test program
