Re: usbnet - MAC and sequential interfaces

2009-02-03 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Cool. Combining this with the initramfs/kexec stuff that's been | discussed on the kernel list (cc'd here): the kexec kernel could very | easily do the magic to read that address as you've described here,

Re: usbnet - MAC and sequential interfaces

2009-02-03 Thread Robert Piasek
On Tuesday 03 February 2009 00:11:05 Mike (mwester) wrote: > The > point, of course, being to make the network manager on the host side of > the USB connection happier... Well this can easily be sorted in userspace. I for one build g_ether as module and append host_addr=XX:XX:XX:XX:XX to modules.

Re: usbnet - MAC and sequential interfaces

2009-02-03 Thread Werner Almesberger
I wrote: > - going dynamic -> static again: > > - previously deleted files in the NAND rootfs may come back from > the dead (< 74*p) Ah, plus everything from "going dynamic -> static for the first time" as well. - Werner ___ devel mailing list d

Re: Xorg / Glamo ?

2009-02-03 Thread Harald Welte
To Everyone: On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 01:17:16PM -0500, Christopher Friedt wrote: > Originally I was following the Developer's Guide on the OpenMoko > Wiki... it seems to be a bit outdated because it still suggests to > synchronize with git.openmoko.org. It's a real PITA to see that the wiki bas

[paroli] Paroli says: Hello World

2009-02-03 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hi, " Just in time with FSO’s Milestone 5 we are releasing our first tutorial. It outlines how to create a simple app, write a simple service and do some basic interaction with edje." read more at: http://www.paroli-project.org/2009/02/03/paroli-says-hello-world/ /mirko __

Re: usbnet - MAC / Qi GTA02 NAND compatability solution

2009-02-03 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Andy Green wrote: |> GTA02 NOR U-Boot will then be incompatible with what we changed to. | | Yup, except for the first partition. By the way, since we may | subdivide the kernel partition, we'll probably end

Re: usbnet - MAC and sequential interfaces

2009-02-03 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Andy Green wrote: |> This opens a can of worms for Qi in terms of supporting GTA02 in the |> field already with random dynparts to give access to the magic ext2 |> partition in NAND. | | One more reason to r

Re: usbnet - MAC and sequential interfaces

2009-02-03 Thread Werner Almesberger
Andy Green wrote: > This opens a can of worms for Qi in terms of supporting GTA02 in the > field already with random dynparts to give access to the magic ext2 > partition in NAND. One more reason to repartition when switching to Qi ;-) The factory partition is just another item that isn't right i

Re: usbnet - MAC and sequential interfaces

2009-02-03 Thread Werner Almesberger
Andy Green wrote: > GTA02 NOR U-Boot will then be incompatible with what we changed to. Yup, except for the first partition. By the way, since we may subdivide the kernel partition, we'll probably end up being incompatible with what's probably the most common use of DFU anyway. So I'd just recomme

Re: usbnet - MAC / Qi GTA02 NAND compatability solution

2009-02-03 Thread Werner Almesberger
Andy Green wrote: > Not so. I tested DFU behaviour some time ago about that and it just > erases up to what it writes, not the whole partition. So it's fine. Okay, so "user kernel" goes first and "boot GUI" (we need a name for it) starts at offset 4MB (plus any bad blocks in the first 4 MB ?), t

Re: Xorg / Glamo ?

2009-02-03 Thread Angus Ainslie
On Tue, 2009-02-03 at 15:10 -0500, Christopher Friedt wrote: > Hi Harald, > > I don't mind updating the wiki where I see errors at all - as long as > I'm not stepping on someone else's feet by doing so. > Please go ahead and update the pages they are suffering from bit rot > A couple of spots

Re: usbnet - MAC and sequential interfaces

2009-02-03 Thread Werner Almesberger
Joel Newkirk wrote: > Exactly what I was looking for, thanks! :) Now if only the host would > recognize it as the same device every time. (particularly windows - linux > tends to just work despite treating it as new each time, while windows > wants to download drivers) Could the Windows-side prob

Re: usbnet - MAC and sequential interfaces

2009-02-03 Thread Joel Newkirk
On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:05:54 +, Robert Piasek wrote: > On Tuesday 03 February 2009 00:11:05 Mike (mwester) wrote: >> The >> point, of course, being to make the network manager on the host side of >> the USB connection happier... > > Well this can easily be sorted in userspace. I for one build

Re: Xorg / Glamo ?

2009-02-03 Thread Juan Alberto Aranda Alvarez
Harald Welte wrote: > So if somebody decides that git.openmoko.org is no longer used but instead > upstream OE, then whoever makes that decision: Please update the wiki to > reflect that change. So upstream OE is the one to use? Juan ___ devel mailing

Re: Xorg / Glamo ?

2009-02-03 Thread Juan Alberto Aranda Alvarez
So basically MokoMakefile is broken? Juan ___ devel mailing list devel@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Xorg / Glamo ?

2009-02-03 Thread Thomas Gstädtner
On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 12:57 AM, Juan Alberto Aranda Alvarez wrote: > So basically MokoMakefile is broken? It not only is broken, it also is unmaintained. I suggest you to use plain Openembedded, makes everything much easier. ___ devel mailing list dev

Re: Xorg / Glamo ?

2009-02-03 Thread Juan Alberto Aranda Alvarez
Then, it should be wiped out completely from the wiki. I guess it was created as a way to "protect" new developers. But it totally confused me. The toolchain is a good idea to show newcomers the phone and get them excited with it. But it isn't maintained either, so you have a lot of new comers wan

Re: Xorg / Glamo ?

2009-02-03 Thread Christopher Friedt
Hi Harald, I don't mind updating the wiki where I see errors at all - as long as I'm not stepping on someone else's feet by doing so. A couple of spots that I feel need some updating are: 1) http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenEmbedded ==> This page needs a bit of an overhaul, IMHO, and as this i

Re: Xorg / Glamo ?

2009-02-03 Thread Rod Whitby
Thomas Gstädtner wrote: > On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 12:57 AM, Juan Alberto Aranda Alvarez > wrote: >> So basically MokoMakefile is broken? > > It not only is broken, it also is unmaintained. I suggest you to use > plain Openembedded, makes everything much easier. What makes you think MokoMakefile i

Location of official Openmoko git repository (Was: Re: Xorg / Glamo ?)

2009-02-03 Thread Rod Whitby
[Subject changed to reflect the actual conversation] Juan Alberto Aranda Alvarez wrote: > Harald Welte wrote: > >> So if somebody decides that git.openmoko.org is no longer used but instead >> upstream OE, then whoever makes that decision: Please update the wiki to >> reflect that change. > > So

Re: Xorg / Glamo ?

2009-02-03 Thread Werner Almesberger
Juan Alberto Aranda Alvarez wrote: > The toolchain is a good idea to show newcomers the phone and get them > excited with it. But it isn't maintained either, so you have a lot of > new comers wanting to port their application and would only get > disappointed. Ironically, quite a lot of small and

Re: Xorg / Glamo ?

2009-02-03 Thread Rod Whitby
Thomas has one opinion about MokoMakefile. It is not the only opinion held by various Openmoko and third-party developers. It is true that the delta between the normal OE build process, and the Openmoko build process is progressively getting smaller. However, there are many people who find the n

Re: Xorg / Glamo ?

2009-02-03 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 04 Feb 2009 11:41:40 +1030 Rod Whitby said: > Thomas has one opinion about MokoMakefile. It is not the only opinion > held by various Openmoko and third-party developers. > > It is true that the delta between the normal OE build process, and the > Openmoko build process is progressively

Re: usbnet - MAC and sequential interfaces

2009-02-03 Thread Joel Newkirk
On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:41:32 -0200, Werner Almesberger wrote: > Joel Newkirk wrote: >> Exactly what I was looking for, thanks! :) Now if only the host would >> recognize it as the same device every time. (particularly windows - > linux >> tends to just work despite treating it as new each time, wh

Xorg / Glamo ?

2009-02-03 Thread Rod Whitby
> Must development is now occurring in OE upstream. AFAIK the > org.openmoko.* branches are now all legacy and not developed any more. Graeme, Is this official? Who is the official Openmoko distribution manager today? Is that you? Where was the official announcement to developers of the move f

Re: Xorg / Glamo ?

2009-02-03 Thread Angus Ainslie
Hi Rod, On Wed, 2009-02-04 at 12:36 +1030, Rod Whitby wrote: > > Must development is now occurring in OE upstream. AFAIK the > > org.openmoko.* branches are now all legacy and not developed any more. > > Graeme, > > Is this official? Who is the official Openmoko distribution manager > today? I

Re: Xorg / Glamo ?

2009-02-03 Thread Rod Whitby
Angus Ainslie wrote: > Hi Rod, > > On Wed, 2009-02-04 at 12:36 +1030, Rod Whitby wrote: >>> Must development is now occurring in OE upstream. AFAIK the >>> org.openmoko.* branches are now all legacy and not developed any more. >> Graeme, >> >> Is this official? Who is the official Openmoko distri

Re: Freesmartphone.org Milestone 5 'Calling All Stations' Release

2009-02-03 Thread Philip Rhoades
People, I installed: openmoko-fso-image-glibc-ipk--20090202-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 uImage-2.6.28-oe1+gitr34240a1c06ae36180dee695aa25bbae869b2aa26-r3-om-gta02.bin and: Calculator - works Elementary Te* - works File Manager - works GPS &* - works Htop - doesn't start I/O - stopped running unexpect

Re: Freesmartphone.org Milestone 5 'Calling All Stations' Release

2009-02-03 Thread Joel Newkirk
On Wed, 04 Feb 2009 14:28:57 +1100, Philip Rhoades wrote: > People, > > I installed: > > openmoko-fso-image-glibc-ipk--20090202-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 > uImage-2.6.28-oe1+gitr34240a1c06ae36180dee695aa25bbae869b2aa26-r3-om-gta02.bin > > and: > > Calculator - works > Elementary Te* - works > File

Re: Freesmartphone.org Milestone 5 'Calling All Stations' Release

2009-02-03 Thread Philip Rhoades
Joel, Joel Newkirk wrote: > On Wed, 04 Feb 2009 14:28:57 +1100, Philip Rhoades > wrote: >> People, >> >> I installed: >> >> openmoko-fso-image-glibc-ipk--20090202-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 >> > uImage-2.6.28-oe1+gitr34240a1c06ae36180dee695aa25bbae869b2aa26-r3-om-gta02.bin >> and: >> >> Calculator -

Re: Location of official Openmoko git repository (Was: Re: Xorg / Glamo ?)

2009-02-03 Thread Marek Lindner
On Wednesday 04 February 2009 09:04:57 Rod Whitby wrote: > I have not had official word from Openmoko that they have moved from > git.openmoko.org to git.openembedded.org > > If Openmoko has officially moved, then please just tell me the new git > server and branch, and I can update MokoMakefile im