Re: spam to gitlab issues

2016-06-03 Thread Hal Murray
g...@rellim.com said: > Click on his Icon in the issue, then on the top left of the nwe paeg is a > small icon to report his abuse. Thanks. It's gone, so somebody got to it before I got a chance to try your recipe. -- These are my opinions. I hate spam.

spam to gitlab issues

2016-06-03 Thread Hal Murray
An issue I started got spammed, so I got a copy by email. https://gitlab.com/NTPsec/ntpsec/issues/71 Does gitlab want to know about things like this? How does who make it go away? He also spammed openprinting.org with a different URL but also on tumblr. -- These are my opinions. I

Re: Test farm news - I think my cat is forcing me to acquire Legos

2016-06-03 Thread Hal Murray
Newer Pis have the power going in the side rather than end. That's going to make a similar rack difficult to assemble. > But I'd hate like hell to have results from a multi-day profiling run > ruined. Preventive measures seem required. Get used to it. There are all sorts of reasons why

Re: Test farm news - I think my cat is forcing me to acquire Legos

2016-06-03 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Eric! On Fri, 3 Jun 2016 17:15:48 -0400 "Eric S. Raymond" wrote: > > Had you considered opening the window a crack and putting the Pi's > > outside? > > Worth a try. Dunno if it has a wide enough ledge to support them. Nail a shelf to the outside of the house? RGDS

Re: GR-701W hangs on Pi-3

2016-06-03 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Eric! On Fri, 3 Jun 2016 16:50:07 -0400 "Eric S. Raymond" wrote: > Achim Gratz : > > > Now how can I avoid that? The Pi has no off switch! > > > > Individually switchable outlets and/or USB ports. Once you've used > > them you will wonder why you

Re: Test farm news - I think my cat is forcing me to acquire Legos

2016-06-03 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Eric! On Fri, 3 Jun 2016 16:48:20 -0400 (EDT) e...@thyrsus.com (Eric S. Raymond) wrote: > This afternoon I found that two of the Pis on the Official Windowsill > of Mad Science had been dislodged and fallen to my desk. Had you considered opening the window a crack and putting the Pi's

Re: GR-701W hangs on Pi-3

2016-06-03 Thread Eric S. Raymond
Achim Gratz : > > Now how can I avoid that? The Pi has no off switch! > > Individually switchable outlets and/or USB ports. Once you've used them > you will wonder why you ever thought it was a good idea to pull and > re-plug the cables. Don't have that gear. Will look on

Test farm news - I think my cat is forcing me to acquire Legos

2016-06-03 Thread Eric S. Raymond
This afternoon I found that two of the Pis on the Official Windowsill of Mad Science had been dislodged and fallen to my desk. A couple of bent Venetian blinds behind them were a clue to the identity of the culprit - to wit, my cat Zola. He means no harm, but he is a lively and curious creature

Re: GR-701W hangs on Pi-3

2016-06-03 Thread Achim Gratz
Eric S. Raymond writes: > Achim Gratz : >> If using USB cables with plugs on both ends, never plug them in or out >> with the power switched on (especially not on the micro side) and you >> should have a lot less problems. > > Now how can I avoid that? The Pi has no off switch!

Re: GR-701W hangs on Pi-3

2016-06-03 Thread Achim Gratz
Gary E. Miller writes: > Yeah, it is the Pi3 that is causing people problems. I'm not having a 3 yet, but at least on average the power consumption is not much higher, looking at the various published measurements. The reported problems likely are related to higher or faster transients and I'm

Re: GR-701W hangs on Pi-3

2016-06-03 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Achim! On Fri, 03 Jun 2016 20:55:14 +0200 Achim Gratz wrote: > Gary E. Miller writes: > > The Pi people say 2 amps is not good enough, they recommend 2.5A. > > I've been running my 2B unit on a 1A charger and never had any > problems. Yeah, it is the Pi3 that is

Re: GR-701W hangs on Pi-3

2016-06-03 Thread Eric S. Raymond
Achim Gratz : > If using USB cables with plugs on both ends, never plug them in or out > with the power switched on (especially not on the micro side) and you > should have a lot less problems. Now how can I avoid that? The Pi has no off switch! --

Re: GR-701W hangs on Pi-3

2016-06-03 Thread Achim Gratz
Gary E. Miller writes: > The Pi people say 2 amps is not good enough, they recommend 2.5A. I've been running my 2B unit on a 1A charger and never had any problems. Just the Pi+network, though, nothing hanging off the other I/O except a DCF77 module on the expansion header (I've sporadically used

Re: [gpsd-dev] GR-701W hangs on Pi-3

2016-06-03 Thread Frank Nicholas
> On Jun 2, 2016, at 7:42 PM, Gary E. Miller wrote: > > Attached is a phot of the mess. You can also see the heat sink I added > to the CPU. I put a couple of heatsinks on some of my Pi’s, (the one outside, etc.), but they’ve never been needed based on it’s internal

Re: [gpsd-dev] GR-701W hangs on Pi-3

2016-06-03 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Eric! On Fri, 3 Jun 2016 11:06:47 -0400 "Eric S. Raymond" wrote: > Frank Nicholas : > > Another quick note regarding power & the Raspberry Pi B+, 2 & 3 - > > the red Power LED will turn off to indicate if voltage drops below > > 4.63V. The

Re: Concerning the ntp-4.2.8p8 security fixes

2016-06-03 Thread Hal Murray
dfoxfra...@gmail.com said: > I'm on the fence as to whether this bug is bad enough to merit tagging a > release right away. Both NTP.org and the Redhat folks who discovered the bug > are downplaying it, but I'm leaning toward yes given that even *legitimate* > leap seconds have a long history of

Re: Concerning the ntp-4.2.8p8 security fixes

2016-06-03 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Eric! On Fri, 3 Jun 2016 11:15:13 -0400 "Eric S. Raymond" wrote: > Yeouch! I think your caution is well-founded. I also think it would > do NTPsec no harm to be *seen* to be more cautious and > security-sensitive than NTP.org, even if this weren't a real ops > issue. +1.

Re: Concerning the ntp-4.2.8p8 security fixes

2016-06-03 Thread Eric S. Raymond
Daniel Franke : > Anyway, although NTP.org blew this advisory, they did get the patch > correct, and as I reported in my previous email I've already ported > and pushed that patch as of yesterday morning. I'm on the fence as to > whether this bug is bad enough to merit

Re: [gpsd-dev] GR-701W hangs on Pi-3

2016-06-03 Thread Eric S. Raymond
Frank Nicholas : > Another quick note regarding power & the Raspberry Pi B+, 2 & 3 - the red > Power LED will turn off to indicate if voltage drops below 4.63V. The Pi > MIGHT continue to function Ok, but this is a clear indication of a power > issue. > > It

Re: [gpsd-dev] GR-701W hangs on Pi-3

2016-06-03 Thread Hal Murray
> And what do you call a 'real' meter? Something that is likely to be accurate. It will cost more than $5. I have a Fluke 112. I got it because we had one at work and I liked it. It's old enough that they don't make them any more. I'm not sure what I would get today. > Any modern meter

Re: [gpsd-dev] GR-701W hangs on Pi-3

2016-06-03 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Hal! On Thu, 02 Jun 2016 22:30:23 -0700 Hal Murray wrote: > oli...@mutability.co.uk said: > > Do you trust your power? The Pi 3 is even more picky than the Pi > > 2. > > Thanks. That could be the problem. Meter says 4.8V. I didn't get > out a scope to look for