Re: ntpq change in behaviour

2019-01-20 Thread Udo van den Heuvel via devel
On 21-01-19 03:20, Hal Murray via devel wrote: > So my guess is that the normal path isn't putting the right stuff into the > kernel. We are missing a call to ntp_adjtime A fresh build of latest git shows me, straight after ntpd restart: # /usr/bin/ntpq -c kerninfo|/bin/awk -e '/pll offset:/ '

Re: ntpq change in behaviour

2019-01-20 Thread Hal Murray via devel
ntpq gets pll offset via ntp_control using CS_K_OFFSET which gets it from ntx.offset ntx comes from ntp_adjtime which is only updated if a big conditional which is all local and looks good. But check for MODE6 errors in the log file. There is nothing lockclock in that local area. So my

Re: ntpq change in behaviour

2019-01-20 Thread Hal Murray via devel
Eric said: > Therefore...would you please take a hard look at the change and see if you > can repair it? I hate to slough off my mistakes on anybody, but the fix > needs to be applied by somebody who can test it. Alternatively, this is a good opportunity for you to learn more about how ntpd

Re: devel/nts.adoc edits

2019-01-20 Thread Hal Murray via devel
Looks good on a modern browser. The diagram doesn't render on a very old browser which can show the stand-alone diagram. Is there something tricky about the include-it recipe? I think we should keep the plain text version around for a while. How complicated is the conversion process? --

Re: The key-manahement argument

2019-01-20 Thread Achim Gratz via devel
Richard Laager via devel writes: >>> * Is NTPsec going to initiate NTS by default? > >> Probably not. That would break backward compatibility. The draft RFC states that falling back to plain NTP from NTS is not allowed without explicit user interaction. So choice of NTS vs. plain NTP has to be

Re: ntpq change in behaviour

2019-01-20 Thread Achim Gratz via devel
Eric S. Raymond via devel writes: > Well, shit. Achim, have you IDed an actual bug, or is that a guess based > on the timing of the report? No, I've updated two boxes yesterday and they've reported a loop frequency of essentially (but not exactly) zero since. Something is still keeping the

Re: devel/nts.adoc edits

2019-01-20 Thread Achim Gratz via devel
James Browning via devel writes: > I would appreciate it if people would look at it and provide constructive > criticism about the content. The edits are sorted roughly into things I > think are acceptable as is, acceptable with some revision and thing I > think I need to seriously edit or drop.

Re: ntpq change in behaviour

2019-01-20 Thread Eric S. Raymond via devel
Achim Gratz via devel : > Udo van den Heuvel via devel writes: > > I noticed that since Friday the output of > > > > /usr/bin/ntpq -c kerninfo|/bin/awk -e '/pll offset:/ {o=$3; if (o < 0) o > > = -o; print o*100;}' -e '/estimated error/ {print $3*100;print > > 1;print "ntpstat"}' > > > >

devel/nts.adoc edits

2019-01-20 Thread James Browning via devel
I have an HTML/SVG render of a modified devel/nts.adoc at: http://www.jamesb192.com:8001/james/nts.html The source in in MR !894 at: https://gitlab.com/NTPsec/ntpsec/merge_requests/894 I would appreciate it if people would look at it and provide constructive criticism about the content. The

Re: ntpq change in behaviour

2019-01-20 Thread Achim Gratz via devel
Udo van den Heuvel via devel writes: > I noticed that since Friday the output of > > /usr/bin/ntpq -c kerninfo|/bin/awk -e '/pll offset:/ {o=$3; if (o < 0) o > = -o; print o*100;}' -e '/estimated error/ {print $3*100;print > 1;print "ntpstat"}' > > gives different results than before. I

ntpq change in behaviour

2019-01-20 Thread Udo van den Heuvel via devel
Hello, I noticed that since Friday the output of /usr/bin/ntpq -c kerninfo|/bin/awk -e '/pll offset:/ {o=$3; if (o < 0) o = -o; print o*100;}' -e '/estimated error/ {print $3*100;print 1;print "ntpstat"}' gives different results than before. On one box I used to see an mrtg graph with

More work on devel/nts.adoc

2019-01-20 Thread Hal Murray via devel
I moved the comments about configuration away from the packet processing area to a new block on configuration. There are probably rough edges. -- These are my opinions. I hate spam. ___ devel mailing list devel@ntpsec.org