Re: [owncloud-devel] Update available via admin interface

2016-01-05 Thread jimknopf
o as an admin, I am urged to use release channels, but OC does not >>> deliver what meet the expectations raised by itself. >>> >>> To me it looks like there is a gap between outward communication and >>> perception and the inner thinking about delivering update

Re: [owncloud-devel] Update available via admin interface

2015-11-23 Thread Jos Poortvliet
eeds._ > > > > > > So as an admin, I am urged to use release channels, but OC does not > > > deliver what meet the expectations raised by itself. > > > > > > To me it looks like there is a gap between outward communication and > > > perceptio

Re: [owncloud-devel] Update available via admin interface

2015-11-23 Thread Jos Poortvliet
> > To me it looks like there is a gap between outward communication and > > perception and the inner thinking about delivering updates; and if I > > may add, it seems at least possible that there is no common > > understanding in the developer community, as well. >

Re: [owncloud-devel] Update available via admin interface

2015-11-17 Thread tflidd
g, 17. November 2015 um 06:16 Uhr VON: Chris AN: devel@owncloud.org BETREFF: Re: [owncloud-devel] Update available via admin interface Hi, why is everyone thinking that if someone is answering somewhere that he is instantly speaking for the project. I'm not speaking for the project oC, i'm

Re: [owncloud-devel] Update available via admin interface

2015-11-17 Thread jimknopf
developer community, as well.   Regards Jim     Gesendet: Dienstag, 17. November 2015 um 06:16 Uhr Von: Chris An: devel@owncloud.org Betreff: Re: [owncloud-devel] Update available via admin interface Hi, why is everyone thinking that if someone is answering somewhere that he is instantly

Re: [owncloud-devel] Update available via admin interface

2015-11-16 Thread Chris
Hi, why is everyone thinking that if someone is answering somewhere that he is instantly speaking for the project. I'm not speaking for the project oC, i'm not related to ownCloud inc. at all, i'm not a developer and i'm also not releasing anything ;-) The post above was just my personal thinkin

Re: [owncloud-devel] Update available via admin interface

2015-11-16 Thread jimknopf
Hi Chris, >> It is also contradictory to https://owncloud.org/release-channels/, where >> it says about the "stable" release channel that it "delivers the latest >> feature releases ready for home users at minimal risk". > > Which is not contradictory. oC 8.2 is a major release not "ready for hom

Re: [owncloud-devel] Update available via admin interface

2015-11-16 Thread Chris
Hi, > his is not only in stark contrast to the admin interface itself, where it > says (as has been noted before) that the dealy is "a few days". this is currently only valid for minor updates like already discussed in https://github.com/owncloud/updater/issues/183 > It is also contradictory to

Re: [owncloud-devel] Update available via admin interface

2015-11-16 Thread jimknopf
Hi Thomas, don’t worry, I understand that there is more to it than just two people agreeing, but I am hoping for some changes, nontheless. And that there is some need to act seems obvious to me - while 8.2.1 has reached RC, 8.2 is still not - almost 4 weeks after its release - available in the

Re: [owncloud-devel] Update available via admin interface

2015-11-16 Thread Thomas Ebert
Hi Jim, I hope my text didn’t give the impression the decision was in my hands alone ;-) As this is a community project, we need to convince others of this opinion or find a different compromise. There is an open issue in the updater repo https://github.com/owncloud/updater/issues/183 But I mis

Re: [owncloud-devel] Update available via admin interface

2015-11-15 Thread jimknopf
Hi Thomas, thank you for the explanation, I agree with you in all respects. Looking forward to some changes :-) Regards Jim > Am 14.11.2015 um 20:09 schrieb Thomas Ebert : > > Hi! > > @Jim Knopf: In an attempt to answer your question directed @all (from my > personal point of view!): > >

Re: [owncloud-devel] Update available via admin interface

2015-11-14 Thread Thomas Ebert
Hi! @Jim Knopf: In an attempt to answer your question directed @all (from my personal point of view!): I think the current practice is based on a (probably outdated) conception of »user-roles«. It seems that there is the role of the tech-savvy users who unquestionable update their ownClouds vi

Re: [owncloud-devel] Update available via admin interface

2015-11-12 Thread Upcast Network N . D
@jim If i may be so rude to interfere in this matter. As a long term user of the OC system it has come to my attention that this "feature" if you will is clearly something which is missing. As in "it should've been there, but it is not" -- Best regards, Nick Dierx Founder, CEO The Upcast Network

Re: [owncloud-devel] Update available via admin interface

2015-11-12 Thread jimknopf
@Frank: Now I am offered version 8.1.4.2 on all channels except „nightly“. @all, so far, no one has answered my question, so I want to rephrase it: Why do you think that the admin can not be enabled to update via web interface as soon as the new version is available? I am the admin of my OC ins

Re: [owncloud-devel] Update available via admin interface

2015-11-12 Thread Frank Karlitschek
I agree. Something like X days after the release if no major problems are found? Any suggestion what X should be? One weeks maybe? Frank > On Nov 12, 2015, at 22:58, Jan-Christoph Borchardt wrote: > > In the updater app it says: > »Testing is everything: Therefore updates will be available he

Re: [owncloud-devel] Update available via admin interface

2015-11-12 Thread Jan-Christoph Borchardt
In the updater app it says: »Testing is everything: Therefore updates will be available here within a few days after the announcement.« Can we be more clear there? In addition I agree, the »few days« should be consistent. mark.zieg...@rakekniven.de – Thu., 12. November 2015 17:40 Hello Fran

Re: [owncloud-devel] Update available via admin interface

2015-11-12 Thread mark . ziegler
Hello Frank, the time from release to availability for integrated updater is lacking communication. Time is different each release. IMHO you should announce it on e.g. twitter, mailinglist and other channels. And there should be a default delay from release to auto updater e.g. 2 weeks. Ther

Re: [owncloud-devel] Update available via admin interface

2015-11-12 Thread Frank Karlitschek
Hi, 3.1.4 should now be available in the updater. (After a few minutes of cache ttl cleanups) Please let me know if something is not working. Frank > On Nov 12, 2015, at 13:19, Joas Schilling wrote: > > Hi Jim, > > notified the people in charge directly, hopefully it will get resolved soon

Re: [owncloud-devel] Update available via admin interface

2015-11-12 Thread Joas Schilling
Hi Jim, notified the people in charge directly, hopefully it will get resolved soon. cheers joas Am 10.11.2015 um 19:30 schrieb jimkn...@gmx.org: Hello everybody, I would like to raise a question/a requirement regarding the update of OC via admin panel and propose to make updates here availa