Re: [riot-devel] Switch to BSD?

2014-12-18 Thread Kaspar Schleiser
Hey, On 12/18/2014 03:34 PM, Ludwig Ortmann wrote: This means that if you sell BSD licensed source code to someone, they can freely distribute it just like they could with LGPL'd code. The BSD licenses do not allow you to change the license ("sublicense") [1]. If you modify BSD code, you have a

Re: [riot-devel] Switch to BSD?

2014-12-18 Thread Ludwig Ortmann
Hi, On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 02:35:58PM +0100, Kaspar Schleiser wrote: > On 12/18/2014 02:10 PM, Ludwig Ortmann wrote: > (L)GPL tries to put some restrictions on that. Mostly, the source code > cannot realistically be sold as long it's (L)GPL. > >>> > >>>This is not correct (depending on yo

Re: [riot-devel] Switch to BSD?

2014-12-18 Thread Kaspar Schleiser
Hey, On 12/18/2014 02:10 PM, Ludwig Ortmann wrote: (L)GPL tries to put some restrictions on that. Mostly, the source code cannot realistically be sold as long it's (L)GPL. This is not correct (depending on your definition of code and selling of course). I know that you know what my definition

Re: [riot-devel] Switch to BSD?

2014-12-18 Thread Kaspar Schleiser
Hey, On 12/18/2014 02:09 PM, Ludwig Ortmann wrote: Please explain without analogies and use concrete examples instead. We release RIOT under BSD. Company X takes the BSD'ed code and sells some infrastructure around that, but basically, they sell commercially supported RIOT under a non-free li

Re: [riot-devel] Switch to BSD?

2014-12-18 Thread Ludwig Ortmann
Hi, On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 01:06:24PM +0100, Kaspar Schleiser wrote: > Hey, > > On 12/16/2014 06:09 PM, Ludwig Ortmann wrote: > >>(L)GPL tries to put some restrictions on that. Mostly, the source code > >>cannot realistically be sold as long it's (L)GPL. > > > >This is not correct (depending on

Re: [riot-devel] Switch to BSD?

2014-12-18 Thread Ludwig Ortmann
Hi, On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 01:46:52PM +0100, Kaspar Schleiser wrote: > BSD changes the whole picture. It makes me feel exploited if I contribute a > lot of ressources building free roads and others just invest a little but > profit from the combination of all roads (even charging me) instead of >

Re: [riot-devel] Switch to BSD?

2014-12-18 Thread Kaspar Schleiser
On 12/16/2014 06:39 PM, Oleg Hahm wrote: arguably written less code in my free time). On the other hand, free software also means that this software might be used for any purpose - even to harm or kill people. LGPL (or any other discussed license) does not prevent this. Are you feeling comfortabl