Re: [riot-devel] Iotivity, AllJoyn, Thread, Ipso Alliance

2015-03-23 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hi!

At least for IoTivity it should be fairly simple to port it to RIOT according
to the response I got on their mailing list:
http://lists.iotivity.org/pipermail/iotivity-dev/2015-March/000600.html

The only problem I see is the incompatible license of their implementation.

(Btw. the Contiki port seems to be more or less vaporware according to
http://lists.iotivity.org/pipermail/iotivity-dev/2015-March/000606.html).

Cheers,
Oleg
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Re: [riot-devel] Iotivity, AllJoyn, Thread, Ipso Alliance

2015-03-21 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hi!

I just realized that I'll probably learn something about  IoTivity and AllJoyn
today at the T2TRG meeting:
https://github.com/t2trg/2015-ietf92/blob/master/agenda.md

I guess there won't be now audio stream, but at least the slides should be
online later this day.

 Concerning IoTBase, I would add that they're thinking about a stack for
 constrained devices [1] so it might be easier to implement on RIOT. 

Looks indeed interesting at a first glance. We should have an eye on this and
see if someone's willing to give it a try with RIOT.

 As you said, Riot nodes will be connected to something more powerful but
 this kind of protocol avoids to create new proprietary protocols.

Just for clarification: I (and I guess I'm speaking for most of us) want a
(R)IOT device being able to be connected _directly_ to anything. Be it another
RIOT powered device, a Contiki device, my home gateway, my smartphone, or any
server in the Internet. Protocols for the IoT should not rely on the fact that
there is something more powerful that translates their messages to the rest of
the world.

 I found this link on stackoverflow where they compare AllJoyn and
 IoTivity.[2]

Thanks for the pointer.

Cheers,
Oleg
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Re: [riot-devel] Iotivity, AllJoyn, Thread, Ipso Alliance

2015-03-21 Thread Carsten Bormann
Oleg Hahm wrote:
  I (and I guess I'm speaking for most of us) want a
 (R)IOT device being able to be connected _directly_ to anything. Be it another
 RIOT powered device, a Contiki device, my home gateway, my smartphone, or any
 server in the Internet. 

That's why it's called Thing-to-thing research group!

 Protocols for the IoT should not rely on the fact that
 there is something more powerful that translates their messages to the rest of
 the world.

There is nothing wrong with factoring in something more powerful for
setup, human interface etc.  But for doing their job, where
thing-to-thing communication is the appropriate mode for that job, we
should be able to do it.  It's the Internet way...

I'm also looking forward to the IoTivity and AllSeen talks today.
Too bad we couldn't find someone from Thread to talk.

Grüße, Carsten
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Re: [riot-devel] Iotivity, AllJoyn, Thread, Ipso Alliance

2015-03-20 Thread Maciej Wasilak
Hello Baptiste!

2015-03-20 9:02 GMT+01:00 Baptiste Clenet bapcle...@gmail.com:

 I agree with you about IETF protocols, everybody should use them and it
 will make communication easier.


In my opinion IETF protocols have the most potential to become de facto
standards. However IETF doesn't develop high level standards (above
application level). They released CoAP, but they won't define structure of
resources, and contents of messages. You may check OMA LWM2M [1] - it's
heavilly based on IETF standards and compatible with IPSO. It's more suited
for GSM devices though.

Best Regards
Maciej Wasilak

[1]
http://technical.openmobilealliance.org/Technical/technical-information/release-program/current-releases/oma-lightweightm2m-v1-0
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[riot-devel] Iotivity, AllJoyn, Thread, Ipso Alliance

2015-03-19 Thread Baptiste Clenet
Hi Rioters,

This question is not particularly about Riot but it makes sense to ask you
since future Riot device might use one of this high level protocol
(Iotivity, AllJoyn, Thread, Ipso Alliance).
What do you think about them?  In your opinion, which one will be mostly
used?
Is there any future developments planned on RIOT?

Cheers,

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