Re: [riot-devel] LGPL compliance testing - This is just to state an opinion of a different kind :-)

2015-02-20 Thread Thomas C. Schmidt

Hi guys,

sorry to interrupt here: You are discussing the question whether Linux 
is available for more hardware than RIOT ???


Even though this discussion may be a nice amusing chat for tea time 
(imagining a 'native port' of Linux running as a RIOT Thread, RIOT on a 
CRAY Supercomputer, RIOT operating the fridge of the Space Shuttle), it 
seems completely irrelevant with respect to the subject LGPL compliance 
testing.


Instead of broadening the debate further and further, I would very much 
like to see this subject converge ... and vanish.


If I remember correctly, we had a pretty convergent perspective about 
half a year ago ... and nothing new or relevant has sprung to my eyes 
since then.


May be I miss important details ... but I'm actually more attached to 
moving forward than discussing in widest broadness.


Cheers  happy weekend

 Thomas

On 20.02.2015 13:35, Emmanuel Baccelli wrote:

Hi Matthias,

On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 11:47 PM, Matthias Waehlisch
m.waehli...@fu-berlin.de mailto:m.waehli...@fu-berlin.de wrote:

Hi Kaspar,

   sorry for the silence!

   As you pointed out in your email, there are scenarios where the
approach will not help due to technical reasons (and using a weird
compiler might have technical reasons as well). You may consider these
as irrelevant. But there is one aspect for sure in the IoT, the IoT is
much more heterogenous compared to the current Internet. This is a
crucial difference making the approach less suitable compared to
developing for Linux, for example.

   For me the sentence RIOT allows LGPL + proprietary source code
at the
same level of comfort compared to Linux sounds like a cheap marketing
slogan making clear that the persons are not aware of the IoT diversity.


Linux runs on a wide variety of 32bit and 64bit hardware. RIOT aims to
do the same on other (smaller) hardware, for a wide variety of 32bit,
16bit (and to some extent 8bit) platforms.

At first sight, I don't see a huge difference here in terms of
heterogeneity. How would you quantify/qualify this difference?

Best

Emmanuel


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Re: [riot-devel] LGPL compliance testing - This is just to state an opinion of a different kind :-)

2015-02-20 Thread Kaspar Schleiser

Hi,

On 02/20/15 13:50, Thomas C. Schmidt wrote:

sorry to interrupt here: You are discussing the question whether Linux
is available for more hardware than RIOT ???
No. We're discussing if developing proprietary products using RIOT is 
comparable to developing proprietary products using embedded Linux.


Kaspar
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