Re: [riot-devel] Notification: Biweekly virtual meeting @ Wed Oct 5, 2016 2pm - 3pm (RIOT Events)

2016-10-07 Thread Kaspar Schleiser 
Hey,

On 10/05/2016 03:27 PM, Oleg Hahm wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 05, 2016 at 03:16:11PM +0200, Martine Lenders wrote:
>> >* How to prevent server problems we had at the weekend?
>> >   * downloads.riot-os.org was moved from kupfer to Kaspar's
>> > server due to power outage at FU
>> >* => Kaspar became single point of failure
>> >* Solutions:
>> >   * More people access to kupfer
>> >* Move to server at HAW (smlng can grant access to other people)
>> >* More people access to Kaspar's server?
> From my point of view, the most important view is getting rid of this single
> point of failure

Please don't get rid of me! ;)

> - independent if it is hosted at FUB, HAW or Hetzner. We
> should have at least one fallback server.

For downloads.riot-os.org, kupfer worked fine for years without
downtime. Let's have the domain point back there. My webserver can serve
as backup, it is already set up. Oleg and I can set up automatic
mirroring between the two, and maybe Oleg can provide access to the
riot-os.org name server, so when sth like this happens the next time, we
can switch more quickly.

(The problem was prolonged because *noone* had a local copy of a needed
file...)

Kaspar



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Re: [riot-devel] Notification: Biweekly virtual meeting @ Wed Oct 5, 2016 2pm - 3pm (RIOT Events)

2016-10-05 Thread Martine Lenders 
Hi,

2016-10-05 15:27 GMT+02:00 Oleg Hahm :
> Hi!
>
> Sorry, couldn't make it, but some comments/questions:
>
> On Wed, Oct 05, 2016 at 03:16:11PM +0200, Martine Lenders wrote:
>>* How to prevent server problems we had at the weekend?
>>   * downloads.riot-os.org was moved from kupfer to Kaspar's
>> server due to power outage at FU
>>* => Kaspar became single point of failure
>>* Solutions:
>>   * More people access to kupfer
>>* Move to server at HAW (smlng can grant access to other people)
>>* More people access to Kaspar's server?
>
> From my point of view, the most important view is getting rid of this single
> point of failure - independent if it is hosted at FUB, HAW or Hetzner. We
> should have at least one fallback server.
>
>>* Simon plans to rework GNRC TCP in the extended future (at Hack'n'ACKs?)
>
> Can't we first merge the current solution ASAP and then do the rework?

I don't think it sends a good signal if we merge a PR that was build
against an API we just deprecated... I'd rather do the rework to sock
with Sebastian (and/or Simon) myself than having conn_tcp merged at
this point, since I'm working on sock_tcp for lwIP in the next few
days I think I will gather enough experience (and have enough
preparation) to maybe be able to do this in a few hours with their
guidance.

Cheers,
Martine
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Re: [riot-devel] Notification: Biweekly virtual meeting @ Wed Oct 5, 2016 2pm - 3pm (RIOT Events)

2016-10-05 Thread Oleg Hahm 
Hi!

Sorry, couldn't make it, but some comments/questions:

On Wed, Oct 05, 2016 at 03:16:11PM +0200, Martine Lenders wrote:
>* How to prevent server problems we had at the weekend?
>   * downloads.riot-os.org was moved from kupfer to Kaspar's
> server due to power outage at FU
>* => Kaspar became single point of failure
>* Solutions:
>   * More people access to kupfer
>* Move to server at HAW (smlng can grant access to other people)
>* More people access to Kaspar's server?

From my point of view, the most important view is getting rid of this single
point of failure - independent if it is hosted at FUB, HAW or Hetzner. We
should have at least one fallback server.

>* Simon plans to rework GNRC TCP in the extended future (at Hack'n'ACKs?)

Can't we first merge the current solution ASAP and then do the rework?

Cheers,
Oleg
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I’ll keep telling it until you get it.


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Re: [riot-devel] Notification: Biweekly virtual meeting @ Wed Oct 5, 2016 2pm - 3pm (RIOT Events)

2016-10-05 Thread Martine Lenders 
Hi,
find attached the minutes of the virtual meeting:

# Virtual Meeting™ on October 5, 2016

## Attendees

   * Martine (chair)
   * Hauke
   * Cenk
   * Peter

## Minute Takers

   * Martine
   * Peter
## Proposed Agenda

   1. CI server problems
   1. sock progress
   1. NDP overhaul
   1. SPI on telosb

## CI server problems
   * How to prevent server problems we had at the weekend?
  * downloads.riot-os.org was moved from kupfer to Kaspar's
server due to power outage at FU
   * => Kaspar became single point of failure
   * Solutions:
  * More people access to kupfer
   * Move to server at HAW (smlng can grant access to other people)
   * More people access to Kaspar's server?
   * Let's talk with Kaspar first (**Cenk** is doing this)

## sock progress
   * GNRC (w/o TCP) done
   * Needs review (incl 2 dependencies)
   * https://github.com/RIOT-OS/RIOT/pull/5524
   * https://github.com/RIOT-OS/RIOT/pull/5526
   * Martine is working on lwIP
   * Simon plans to rework GNRC TCP in the extended future (at Hack'n'ACKs?)

## NDP overhaul
   * Martine opened a PR for NIB
   * Please criticize and review!

## SPI on telosb
   * Peter: Did anyone use SPI on telosb in the last time?
   * Hauke: Did anyone use it in the last 3 years?
   * Peter: That explains everything!

2016-10-05 14:11 GMT+02:00 Peter Kietzmann :
> Hi,
>
> you can join via PlaceCam (as usual) under:
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>
> Best
> Peter
>
> Am 04.10.2016 um 14:59 schrieb Martine Lenders:
>> Dear RIOTers,
>> as the Google Calendar reminds is: tomorrow is our "biweekly" virtual
>> meeting. I started an agenda at [1]. Feel free to add to it if you think
>> something needs to be discussed.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Martine
>>
>> [1] http://www.yourpart.eu/p/riot-2016-10-05-virtual-meeting
>>
>> 2016-10-04 14:00 GMT+02:00 Google Calendar >> :
>>
>>> more details »
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>>> Biweekly virtual meeting
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>>> Some instructions and a link to the agenda can be found in the RIOT wiki (
>>> https://github.com/RIOT-OS/RIOT/wiki/Meetings
>>> ).
>>> Remote participation will be provided.
>>> *When*
>>> Wed Oct 5, 2016 2pm – 3pm Berlin
>>>
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>>> RIOT Events
>>>
>>> *Who*
>>> •
>>> Ludwig Ortmann - creator
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Re: [riot-devel] Notification: Biweekly virtual meeting @ Wed Oct 5, 2016 2pm - 3pm (RIOT Events)

2016-10-05 Thread Peter Kietzmann 
Hi,

you can join via PlaceCam (as usual) under:

http://placecam.de/call.php?c=kWtmE~M0jTbKGFQSGnUBLtC.xAbWgTythbQbBMVXUvs-

Best
Peter

Am 04.10.2016 um 14:59 schrieb Martine Lenders:
> Dear RIOTers,
> as the Google Calendar reminds is: tomorrow is our "biweekly" virtual
> meeting. I started an agenda at [1]. Feel free to add to it if you think
> something needs to be discussed.
> 
> Cheers,
> Martine
> 
> [1] http://www.yourpart.eu/p/riot-2016-10-05-virtual-meeting
> 
> 2016-10-04 14:00 GMT+02:00 Google Calendar > :
> 
>> more details »
>> 
>> Biweekly virtual meeting
>> Developer discussions that will only happen if a proposed agenda exists.
>> Some instructions and a link to the agenda can be found in the RIOT wiki (
>> https://github.com/RIOT-OS/RIOT/wiki/Meetings
>> ).
>> Remote participation will be provided.
>> *When*
>> Wed Oct 5, 2016 2pm – 3pm Berlin
>>
>> *Calendar*
>> RIOT Events
>>
>> *Who*
>> •
>> Ludwig Ortmann - creator
>>
>> Invitation from Google Calendar 
>>
>> You are receiving this email at the account peterschme...@gmail.com
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Re: [riot-devel] Notification: Biweekly virtual meeting @ Wed Oct 5, 2016 2pm - 3pm (RIOT Events)

2016-10-04 Thread Martine Lenders 
Dear RIOTers,
as the Google Calendar reminds is: tomorrow is our "biweekly" virtual
meeting. I started an agenda at [1]. Feel free to add to it if you think
something needs to be discussed.

Cheers,
Martine

[1] http://www.yourpart.eu/p/riot-2016-10-05-virtual-meeting

2016-10-04 14:00 GMT+02:00 Google Calendar :

> more details »
> 
> Biweekly virtual meeting
> Developer discussions that will only happen if a proposed agenda exists.
> Some instructions and a link to the agenda can be found in the RIOT wiki (
> https://github.com/RIOT-OS/RIOT/wiki/Meetings
> ).
> Remote participation will be provided.
> *When*
> Wed Oct 5, 2016 2pm – 3pm Berlin
>
> *Calendar*
> RIOT Events
>
> *Who*
> •
> Ludwig Ortmann - creator
>
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