Re: More details about a kernel module (by GPfault)

2003-10-14 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
RJ Just add some IOCTL's for hardware acceleration). How much overhead does an ioctl involve ? (Rhethorical question.) Juliusz ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: More details about a kernel module (by GPfault)

2003-10-14 Thread Brad Hards
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 09:16 am, Raymond Jennings wrote: I hope you guys at XFree86 look into this.  I haven't the foggiest idea how you would do it, as I'm a newbie.  I do believe that a kernel modulized DDX layer would be of great benefit to X. Have

Re: You suggest an upgrade, eh?

2003-10-14 Thread Alexander Shopov
Kernel modules are not inherently faster. the reason directx (and openGL) seem so fast on windows is because the manufacturers and MS tweak the drivers for every last bit of performance. Plus they are able to utilize interfaces that are not accessable in xfree86 due to IP concerns. Some xfree86

Re: You suggest an upgrade, eh?

2003-10-14 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003, Alexander Shopov wrote: Kernel modules are not inherently faster. the reason directx (and openGL) seem so fast on windows is because the manufacturers and MS tweak the drivers for every last bit of performance. Plus they are able to utilize interfaces that are not

Re: You suggest an upgrade, eh?

2003-10-14 Thread Thomas Winischhofer
Måns Rullgård wrote: Mike A. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Right now, the biggest hit on the desktop is probably unaccelerated RENDER operations. That's what most users likely see as desktop slowdowns currently. Over time, those things will improve as people write support. I've been

i82852/855GM 1040x1050

2003-10-14 Thread hb
Hi; Some weeks back there was a discussion about a problem with some laptops (acer 661LCi, dell 500m,..) were the Vid-BIOS does not return the panel size and XFree can't use the the panel resolution of 1400x1050.Any idea if this problem gets resolved before or with the next XFree86 release ? PS

Re: i82852/855GM 1040x1050

2003-10-14 Thread Alex Deucher
I doubt it unless intel releases the necessary programming information. Alex --- hb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi; Some weeks back there was a discussion about a problem with some laptops (acer 661LCi, dell 500m,..) were the Vid-BIOS does not return the panel size and XFree can't use the

Re: You suggest an upgrade, eh?

2003-10-14 Thread Andrew E. Mileski
François Puitg wrote: The symptoms are : after X has been started and window manager is up (it's the same with KDE, GNOME and twm), sometimes after 1 hour, but most of the time immediately, the keyboard freezes and the mouse becomes erratic, even when doing nothing, just standing there

Re: You suggest an upgrade, eh?

2003-10-14 Thread Thomas Winischhofer
Måns Rullgård wrote: Thomas Winischhofer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've been trying to find specs for implementing hardware RENDER support for my graphics card. I have the specs for the card. The problem is that nobody seems to know what the various RENDER functions in a driver are supposed to

Re: You suggest an upgrade, eh?

2003-10-14 Thread Alexander Shopov
I'm not quite convinced that that is an objective comparison however. Was Quake 3 running in both operating systems with the exact same 3D settings? Of course not! ;-) I am as skeptical as you are regarding similar tests. However - a demonstration like this helps me when proving that X is not

Export symbol lists on Linux (was Re: RFC Marking private symbols in XFree86 shared libraries as private)

2003-10-14 Thread Jakub Jelinek
I'd say it would be better to reuse *-def.cpp files (didn't know something like that existed). I've preprocessed all *-def.cpp files included in XFree86/xc/lib, gathered all symbols currently exported from XFree86 shared libraries, all undefined symbols in 5800 shared libraries and binaries I

Re: You suggest an upgrade, eh?

2003-10-14 Thread Tim Roberts
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 00:19:58 +0300, Alexander Shopov wrote: I'm not quite convinced that that is an objective comparison however. Was Quake 3 running in both operating systems with the exact same 3D settings? Of course not! ;-) I am as skeptical as you are regarding similar tests. However

Re: You suggest an upgrade, eh?

2003-10-14 Thread Alexander Shopov
It does no such thing. It demonstrates that OpenGL on Linux is not slow, but to run those applications you essentially shut down X. You've demonstrated nothing about X's performance. I am not sure I understand what you are saying. To the best of my knowledge - I used the OpenGL drivers that