Re: replacing rsyslogd in minimal with journald [was Re: systemd requires HTTP server and serves QR codes]

2012-10-09 Thread Chris
2012/10/9 Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de: On Tue, 09.10.12 09:09, Chris Adams (cmad...@hiwaay.net) wrote: Once upon a time, Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de said: If people want some pixel-perfect copy of the traditional /var/log/messages, then they should just run

Re: F17 TC1 DVD still no btrfs as install option?

2012-04-25 Thread Chris
to btrfs. That's because Btrfs is way more stable than ext4, [citation needed] https://twitter.com/#!/josefbacik/status/195190540529184768 Is this a joke? Btrfs more stable than ext4??? Not really??? -- Chris -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https

Re: F17 TC1 DVD still no btrfs as install option?

2012-04-25 Thread Chris
2012/4/25 Josef Bacik jo...@toxicpanda.com: On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Chris xchris...@googlemail.com wrote: 2012/4/25 Josef Bacik jo...@toxicpanda.com: On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Colin Walters walt...@verbum.org wrote: On Wed, 2012-04-25 at 12:03 -0400, Josef Bacik wrote: On Wed

MySQL 5.6 for Fedora 19

2013-02-06 Thread Chris
Hey Fedora Developers, It would be nice to see MySQL 5.6 for Fedora 19. -- Chris -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Should MariaDB touch my.cnf in %post?

2013-02-14 Thread Chris
that just sits on your disk), so of course, MariaDB WILL replace MySQL on upgrades. In other words: It is not possible to install mysql on ferdora 19??? Fedora and freedom??? Freedom is to have the choice between mysql and mariadb! -- Chris -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https

Re: New member on the block; Introducing Apprise

2019-03-25 Thread Chris
Ankur, Thank you for your email! I look forward to helping out where I can :) Chris On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 10:47 AM Ankur Sinha wrote: > On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 21:39:22 -0400, Chris wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > Hi Chris! > > I didn't see anyone reply to your e-mail, so I th

Koji Build Failure Due To Dependency EPEL Dependency Issue

2019-02-23 Thread Chris
the case, it wouldn't have worked perfectly fine on Copr. Thoughts? Advice? Chris ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org

Re: Koji Build Failure Due To Dependency EPEL Dependency Issue

2019-03-02 Thread Chris
python2-oauthlib and python3-oauthlib in their respected repositories. Any thoughts or advice? Chris On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 5:13 PM Orion Poplawski wrote: > COPR builds against CentOS, EPEL builds against RHEL, which can lead to > differences. Bringing in the EPEL list to see what other

Re: Koji Build Failure Due To Dependency EPEL Dependency Issue

2019-03-02 Thread Chris
> Can you file a releng ticket to retire the epel7 one? > Thats what needs to happen here. Thank you (and everyone else) very much for your fast responses and help! I created https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1684830 which hopefully covers what was requested of me. :) Chris

New member on the block; Introducing Apprise

2019-03-10 Thread Chris
name is Chris, and I've actually been contributing to the RPM community for years, but in a bit of an indirect way. For years I run/ran http://nuxref.com/nuxref-repository/ (similar to nux, or rpmforge, etc) but on a much smaller scale. I mostly focused on EPEL 6 and 7 stuff. I usually just grabbed

Re: Don't lint in %check (Was: python-flake8 package not available in F30)

2019-03-11 Thread Chris
Noted, I'll take this portion out. :) Chris On Mon., Mar. 11, 2019, 6:00 a.m. Petr Viktorin, wrote: > On 3/9/19 7:33 PM, Chris wrote: > > Thank you both for your fast reply! > > > > > Why do you need to BuildRequire a linting tool? What are you trying > >

Re: Koji Build Failure Due To Dependency EPEL Dependency Issue

2019-03-09 Thread Chris
Thanks a lot Kevin! I can confirm it built perfectly! (ref https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=33328352) I truly appreciate your help! Chris On Sat, Mar 9, 2019 at 1:16 AM Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On 3/8/19 6:01 PM, Chris wrote: > > Hi guys, > > > > I apolo

python-flake8 package not available in F30

2019-03-09 Thread Chris
?taskID=33329251 I realize f30 is in rawhide state right now, so i wasn't sure if this is the right forum for this question or if i should just wait? Chris ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le

Re: Koji Build Failure Due To Dependency EPEL Dependency Issue

2019-03-08 Thread Chris
. Thanks in advance! Chris On Sat, Mar 2, 2019 at 4:46 PM Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > I have created https://pagure.io/releng/issue/8185 for the releng > ticket and referenced the bugzilla. > > On Sat, 2 Mar 2019 at 16:23, Chris wrote: > > > > > Can you fil

Re: python-flake8 package not available in F30

2019-03-09 Thread Chris
03. 19 15:26, Chris wrote: > > I have a slightly different packaging issue with the repository > structure > > (similar state on both COPR an Koji). > > > > In epel7, f28, and f29 i can use the line: > > BuildRequires: python-flake8 > > python-flake8 was provid

Re: EPEL: Python34 moving to Python36

2019-03-13 Thread Chris
? Here's the source of my prob: https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=33463886 Chris On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 10:38 AM Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > Over the last 5 days, Troy Dawson, Jeroen van Meeuwen, Carl W George, > and several helpers have gotten nearly all of the py

[EPEL-devel] Re: Koji Build Failure Due To Dependency EPEL Dependency Issue

2019-03-09 Thread Chris
Thanks a lot Kevin! I can confirm it built perfectly! (ref https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=33328352) I truly appreciate your help! Chris On Sat, Mar 9, 2019 at 1:16 AM Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On 3/8/19 6:01 PM, Chris wrote: > > Hi guys, > > > > I apolo

[EPEL-devel] Re: Koji Build Failure Due To Dependency EPEL Dependency Issue

2019-03-08 Thread Chris
. Thanks in advance! Chris On Sat, Mar 2, 2019 at 4:46 PM Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > I have created https://pagure.io/releng/issue/8185 for the releng > ticket and referenced the bugzilla. > > On Sat, 2 Mar 2019 at 16:23, Chris wrote: > > > > > Can you fil

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-28 Thread Chris Adams
mounted in that type of setup (users don't get space on the local drive except /tmp), so ~/.local would be meaningless. -- Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. -- devel mailing list

Would like to claim deprecated package brandy

2011-07-30 Thread Chris Tyler
this package for multiple releases (FTBFS). However, it was built successfully for F15, and currently builds fine on both primary archs without change. Deprecated-package-revival review at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=726910 -Chris -- devel mailing list devel

Re: Call for Test Days for Fedora 16

2011-08-03 Thread Chris Tyler
On Fri, 2011-07-22 at 18:43 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2011-07-21 at 10:23 -0400, Chris Tyler wrote: Hi Adam, On the week of Aug 7 David Shein and I will be at POSSE-RIT teaching professors how open source communities work. On the Wednesay afternoon and Thursday

Re: Co-maintainers wanted

2011-08-05 Thread Chris Jones
This looks like a very interesting project mate. I'm very interested in becoming a co-maintainer. ;-) *Cheers, Chris Jones** * * * “Oh, so they have internet on computers now?” — Homer Simpson * * Signature powered by http://r1.wisestamp.com/r/landing?promo=4dest=http%3A%2F

Re: Default services enabled

2011-08-17 Thread Chris Adams
to be functional and is not network enabled, it may be enabled by default Is CUPS functional without any configuration? How do you print without configuring a printer? -- Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's

Re: [HEADS UP] remove ddate(1) command from rawhide

2011-08-29 Thread Chris Adams
be removed. I'm just saying that space savings as justification of removing ddate is stupid. -- Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. -- devel mailing list devel

Re: floppy support (was: [HEADS UP] remove ddate(1) command from rawhide)

2011-08-29 Thread Chris Adams
over time, I don't know how to get the device nodes with the correct access for the desktop user anymore, and I figure if somebody went to the trouble of removing the udev rules, there's not much point in asking to have them added back. -- Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net Systems and Network

Re: floppy support

2011-08-29 Thread Chris Jones
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Michael Cronenworth m...@cchtml.comwrote: On 08/29/2011 10:22 PM, Chris Adams wrote: It is very irritating, since I only use floppies when I really need to, Is this due to the need to boot into DOS to run a firmware utility or something similar? If so, you

Re: floppy support

2011-08-30 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Michael Cronenworth m...@cchtml.com said: On 08/29/2011 10:22 PM, Chris Adams wrote: It is very irritating, since I only use floppies when I really need to, Is this due to the need to boot into DOS to run a firmware utility or something similar? If so, you can create

Re: floppy support

2011-08-30 Thread Chris Adams
. These are for embedded systems that use a standard PC-style floppy controller. Replace the floppy drive with something else that still looks to the system like a regular floppy drive. -- Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself

Re: floppy support (was: [HEADS UP] remove ddate(1) command from rawhide)

2011-08-30 Thread Chris Adams
the floppy module is loaded? I have never seen that happen, on systems with or without floppy drives, yet you seem to be saying it happens on vast numbers of them (99.9% in an earlier message). -- Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't

Re: floppy support (was: [HEADS UP] remove ddate(1) command from rawhide)

2011-08-30 Thread Chris Adams
answer my actual question? How many systems hang when floppy.ko is loaded? If it is a large number, it should be easy to point to lots of data. -- Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough

Re: floppy support (was: [HEADS UP] remove ddate(1) command from rawhide)

2011-08-30 Thread Chris Adams
. Leaving known-working hardware unusable at install is just rude and irritating when it is needed. There should be good justification, not just a bunch of developers don't use it anymore, so we don't think anybody else needs it. -- Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net Systems and Network Administrator

Re: floppy support

2011-08-30 Thread Chris Jones
anyway. Regards Chris Jones [image: linux.png] linux.png-- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: floppy support

2011-08-30 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Chris Jones chrisjo...@comcen.com.au said: I see it all the time. Some older hardware still requires floppies... It just seems like a generic defense statement for the fans of floppies and for those who insist on using them for god knows what reason. Again, please stop trying

Re: floppy support

2011-08-31 Thread Chris Adams
ignore it and stop loading the module. sigh... -- Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman

Re: floppy support

2011-08-31 Thread Chris Adams
access is concerned. -- Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Fedora kernel bug day.

2011-10-05 Thread Chris Adams
know suspend is another fun area, but are there any good tools to figure out what is wrong when suspend/resume doesn't work right? I've got a problem system (RH BZ 548593) that I don't know what else I can do to try to fix. -- Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net Systems and Network Administrator

Re: Why EDID is not trustworthy for DPI

2011-10-06 Thread Chris Adams
monitor much of the time); can't we at least try to correct for that case first, and _then_ try to deal with multi-monitor setups? -- Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. -- devel

Re: Why EDID is not trustworthy for DPI

2011-10-06 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com said: Obviously you embed radar in every projector. Projectors with auto-focus already detect the distance to the screen (I think they use IR). I don't expect that they change the EDID screen size reporting though. -- Chris Adams cmad

Re: Subject: IMPORTANT: Mandatory password and ssh key change by 2011-11-30

2011-10-12 Thread Chris Adams
no maximum length is a denial of service waiting to happen. I'm sure the passwords are hashed, so it isn't a matter of storage, but the input buffer is not unlimited, and neither are the hash iterations to process the input. What is the actual limit? 256 characters? 512? -- Chris Adams cmad

Re: BEWARE: a problematic glibc made it to stable (F16)

2011-10-24 Thread Chris Adams
their system to compile things. -- Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

UsrMove feature (was Re: FESCo meeting minutes for 2011-10-24)

2011-10-24 Thread Chris Adams
if this feature goes through? -- Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: UsrMove feature (was Re: FESCo meeting minutes for 2011-10-24)

2011-10-24 Thread Chris Adams
, but there are several things in /bin that are established standards (such as /bin/sh for shell scripts). /lib{,64} is part of the ABI because of /lib/ld-linux.so.2 and /lib64/ld-linux-x86_64.so.2. -- Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak

Re: UsrMove feature (was Re: FESCo meeting minutes for 2011-10-24)

2011-10-24 Thread Chris Adams
been a significanly used Unix-like system since 7th Edition that didn't have a Bourne-like shell at /bin/sh. -- Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. -- devel mailing list devel

Re: UsrMove feature (was Re: FESCo meeting minutes for 2011-10-24)

2011-10-25 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com said: 2011/10/25 Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net: Once upon a time, Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com said: I created feature page https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/F18MorePortableInterpreters I strongly object to this feature

Re: UsrMove feature (was Re: FESCo meeting minutes for 2011-10-24)

2011-10-25 Thread Chris Adams
somebody's idea of neatness. I have no problem removing compat symlinks when they are no longer needed; I just don't believe that will ever be the case for /bin, /lib{,64}, and /sbin. -- Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak

Re: UsrMove feature

2011-10-26 Thread Chris Adams
utilities were in odd places like /etc and /usr/lib. The idea of /sbin and /usr/sbin was to get compiled executables out of those places (and to not clutter up the normal bin directories with stuff users didn't need). -- Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet

Re: UsrMove feature

2011-10-26 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Harald Hoyer harald.ho...@gmail.com said: For daemons, which should not be called directly on the command line, I would suggest to move them to /usr/lib/packagename/ anyway. That's what /usr/libexec is for. /usr/lib{,64} is for libraries and such, not executables. -- Chris

Re: UsrMove feature (was Re: FESCo meeting minutes for 2011-10-24)

2011-10-26 Thread Chris Adams
use anyway. -- Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: UsrMove feature (was Re: FESCo meeting minutes for 2011-10-24)

2011-10-27 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net said: One big question though: can RPM handle such a change? IIRC, when the switch from /etc/rc.d/init.d to /etc/init.d was made, initially everything was going to be moved and the old paths symlinked for a few releases. However

Re: Upgrading libpng: shall we move to 1.4.x or 1.5.x?

2011-11-04 Thread Chris Adams
directly myself, so I'm not familiar with what is required). Since all the packages that depend on libpng would have to be rebuilt twice if you don't go to the latest version now, I'd say go ahead and get it over with once (i.e. go to 1.5). -- Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net Systems and Network

Re: xfce-weather-plugin stopped working

2011-11-04 Thread Chris Adams
The Weather Channel (weather.com) as its data source? They cut off the old free API and now charge for the new one. -- Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. -- devel mailing list

Re: xfce-weather-plugin stopped working

2011-11-05 Thread Chris Adams
the policies. However, policies change, and sometimes on relatively short notice. I think weather.com was the default for a number of projects, and that probably was costing The Weather Channel money (that didn't give them anything in return). -- Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net Systems and Network

Re: Heads up: libpng bumped to 1.5.x in rawhide

2011-11-05 Thread Chris Adams
in package dependencies. Hmm, I didn't know that. Which does RPM use when generating dependencies? It would appear that it is is using ldd; should that be changed? -- Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's

Re: Proposing Fedora Feature for private /tmp and /var/tmp for all systemd services in Fedora 17.

2011-11-07 Thread Chris Adams
question: is it possible for root to see these alternate tmps? -- Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https

Re: Proposing Fedora Feature for private /tmp and /var/tmp for all systemd services in Fedora 17.

2011-11-07 Thread Chris Adams
the root user could see them. If he is only mounting as tmpfs then I don't think the admin could easily get into the namespaces to see them. I would be against something that hides stuff from root. That's a recipie for disaster. -- Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net Systems and Network Administrator

Re: Proposing Fedora Feature for private /tmp and /var/tmp for all systemd services in Fedora 17.

2011-11-07 Thread Chris Adams
is accessing that directory, that's probably good enough. But we could definitely add this if necessary, as a property on the bus object of the service, which would then be queriable with systemctl show. If it isn't too hard, that would be good as well. -- Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net Systems

Re: Proposing Fedora Feature for private /tmp and /var/tmp for all systemd services in Fedora 17.

2011-11-07 Thread Chris Adams
trivial than I like already. Well, if they're subdirectories of /tmp, you'd have to deal with all the usual /tmp attacks of known targets. -- Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble

Re: Proposing Fedora Feature for private /tmp and /var/tmp for all systemd services in Fedora 17.

2011-11-07 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Gregory Maxwell gmaxw...@gmail.com said: On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net wrote: Well, if they're subdirectories of /tmp, you'd have to deal with all the usual /tmp attacks of known targets. Hmph? They wouldn't be accessible to anything

Re: Proposing Fedora Feature for private /tmp and /var/tmp for all systemd services in Fedora 17.

2011-11-09 Thread Chris Adams
, etc.) to separate the systemd-created private tmps. -- Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org

Re: anaconda poor error handling

2011-11-09 Thread Chris Lumens
, and /mnt/sysimage/root/upgrade.log would all be helpful things to see right now. - Chris -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

ARM Architecture - Package Updates in git

2011-11-14 Thread Chris Tyler
#Packages_Needing_ARM_Patches_Upstreamed -Chris [0] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Arch:ARM ; https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/arm ; irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-arm -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-28 Thread Chris Evich
On 11/25/2011 06:18 PM, drago01 wrote: On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 12:16 AM, Brendan Jones brendan.jones...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/26/2011 12:03 AM, Giovanni Campagna wrote: As promised in my previous mail, here is what I find that's lacking in Fedora, compared to the direct competition (Ubuntu,

Re: Using plymouth during hibernation

2011-12-04 Thread Chris Tyler
way more work than anyone's been willing to do so far, especially for that level of benefit is usually the long version.) -Chris -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: git branch help?

2010-08-03 Thread Chris Adams
(or any other signed data for that matter)? -- Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman

Re: desktop responsiveness patches

2010-08-06 Thread Chris Jones
On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 1:52 AM, Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com wrote: This sounds interesting: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_itempx=ODQ3OQ It's funny because I never really thought it was a problem on such a large scale of systems. I had always though that it was something to

Re: Nice work...

2010-08-06 Thread Chris Jones
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Nathanael D. Noblet nathan...@gnat.ca wrote: Hello,  I recently acquired a Toshiba L655 laptop, fairly new stuff (both network card drivers have yet to be merged into the mainline kernel). I had issues getting Fedora installed, it had massive kernel panics

Re: vesa-mode Anaconda install

2010-08-11 Thread Chris Lumens
? xdriver= is a more generic mechanism anyway. - Chris -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 14 Alpha RC3 Available Now!

2010-08-12 Thread Chris Jones
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 It is common for iso size to be over the 700MB target size due to most developers and testers doing their work in virtual machines these days. Therefore, iso size is not an issue. And bringing it back down to below the 700MB size limit for CD is

Re: New bodhi release in production

2010-08-12 Thread Chris Adams
about this. -- Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 14 Alpha RC3 Available Now!

2010-08-12 Thread Chris Ball
, because the stated objectives of the Fedora project as a whole don't agree with you either: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Objectives http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Staying_close_to_upstream_projects - Chris. -- Chris Ball c...@laptop.org One Laptop Per Child -- devel mailing list devel

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 14 Alpha RC3 Available Now!

2010-08-13 Thread Chris Adams
, and that even FESCo shouldn't be able to set an update policy for KDE packages. Why don't you give the kernel maintainers the same courtesy? -- Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough

Re: Staying close to upstream

2010-08-13 Thread Chris Tyler
Firefox maintainers' position that those patches shouldn't be accepted. It's easy to complain that people aren't bending the rules to your liking, and harder to actually work with them and get things done in a quality, sustainable way. -Chris -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https

Re: What does the DVD media check if installing a new Fedora version? / Proposal

2010-08-13 Thread Chris Adams
not be a problem now). If you are looking at the master or mirror directory, you could use dd to only read the right number of bytes from the disk and pipe the output to sha256sum. -- Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 14 Alpha RC3 Available Now!

2010-08-13 Thread Chris Adams
. Again, proof? They have enough patches to sort through every release as it is, and they don't want to add more. -- Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. -- devel mailing list devel

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 14 Alpha RC3 Available Now!

2010-08-13 Thread Chris Adams
over all packages in the distribution (or all packages that tangentially affect them). -- Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 14 Alpha RC3 Available Now!

2010-08-13 Thread Chris Adams
big and hierarchical, you don't always get a lot of feedback (even when one of the maintainers picks up your patch in their tree to go upstream). -- Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough

Re: Staying close to upstream

2010-08-13 Thread Chris Tyler
On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 17:49 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: Chris Tyler wrote: If you (or whoever is interested) can't get those patches through the upstream review process for technical reasons, then perhaps they're ugly patches. If you can't get them through because of lack of time/energy

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 14 Alpha RC3 Available Now!

2010-08-13 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at said: Chris Adams wrote: SIGs don't exist to exercise control over all packages in the distribution (or all packages that tangentially affect them). As I said elsewhere on this list, that's exactly where our organizational structure

Re: New bodhi release in production

2010-08-13 Thread Chris Adams
, then that SQLite should be fixed! What if it isn't a bug, but just different behavior? To do such an update in F12, you need to audit the other users of SQLite (of which there are many) and check them against a new version, possibly updating many dependent packages as well. -- Chris Adams cmad

Re: New bodhi release in production

2010-08-13 Thread Chris Adams
achieve anything either. Is it impossible for you to accept the fact that not everybody agrees with you on the direction of Fedora, and that maybe (just maybe) you are in the minority? -- Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak

Re: Staying close to upstream

2010-08-13 Thread Chris Adams
and not assume they know what's best for the rest of the distribution. -- Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https

Re: New bodhi release in production

2010-08-13 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at said: If we really are the only ones true to Fedora's original principles As I recall, upstream, upstream, upstream was one of those principles that you are demanding others now break. -- Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net Systems and Network

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 14 Alpha RC3 Available Now!

2010-08-13 Thread Chris Jones
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/12/2010 11:15 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: By network install, I meant using a local intranet-based HTTP or FTP server to install from. Ok fair enough, I misunderstood what you meant. My apologies. Regards - --

Re: Why does X run as root?

2010-08-19 Thread Chris Ball
Xorg if you're on KMS would be a fine F15Feature to aim for. Ubuntu's been working on it too: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Rootless - Chris. -- Chris Ball c...@laptop.org One Laptop Per Child -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: systemd and filesystems with noauto

2010-08-23 Thread Chris Adams
filesystems means that they shouldn't be automatically mounted. -- Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https

Re: systemd and filesystems with noauto

2010-08-23 Thread Chris Adams
be mounted explicitly (i.e., the -a option will not cause the filesystem to be mounted). -- Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. -- devel mailing list devel

Re: drop default MTA for Fedora 15

2010-08-24 Thread Chris Adams
by not having any MTA installed (other than a little bit of disk space)? I understand that a little bit of disk space can add up quick, but a local queueing MTA is a pretty standard part of a Unix system. -- Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services

Re: drop default MTA for Fedora 15

2010-08-24 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Michael Cronenworth m...@cchtml.com said: Chris Adams wrote: What do we gain by not having any MTA installed (other than a little bit of disk space)? I understand that a little bit of disk space can add up quick, but a local queueing MTA is a pretty standard part

Re: drop default MTA for Fedora 15

2010-08-24 Thread Chris Adams
or for researchers to study? So, according to you, Unix-like systems are only for researchers to study? How does PCs evolving every 5-10 years have any bearing on being Unix-like or not? -- Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody

Re: systemd acceptance, packaging guidelines (was Re: systemd and changes)

2010-08-24 Thread Chris Adams
distributes. People like it. Yes, and they should continue to use it -- for sysv scripts. I thought the last big discussion resulted in agreement that chkconfig and service should continue to work for all services. Is that not the case? -- Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net Systems and Network

Re: systemd and changes

2010-08-24 Thread Chris Adams
there is something capable of replacing it. Maybe you don't have bridges, 802.1q VLANs (and even bridged VLANs), etc., but last I checked, NM didn't handle them. -- Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough

Re: drop default MTA for Fedora 15

2010-08-26 Thread Chris Adams
think of (such as delivering root mail to a non-root user or smarthosting, possibly with authentication setup) requires manual configuration in any case. -- Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's

Re: drop default MTA for Fedora 15

2010-08-26 Thread Chris Adams
be in @Core, because cronie is mandatory and requires /usr/sbin/sendmail (until the rawhide version of cronie, which will log to syslog if there's no /usr/sbin/sendmail). Why is sendmail also in @Base? -- Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't

Re: drop default MTA for Fedora 15

2010-08-26 Thread Chris Adams
(if there's a reason and it isn't just an accident, that might have some bearing on removing it from both). -- Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. -- devel mailing list devel

Re: systemd and changes

2010-08-27 Thread Chris Adams
support all the same things in network-scripts that ifup/etc. do, and it adds some things of its own for WPA and the like). -- Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. -- devel mailing list

Re: systemd and changes

2010-08-27 Thread Chris Adams
the universal vi (but then the config files are not well documented). -- Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https

Re: fedora mission

2010-08-28 Thread Chris Ball
don't like it. - Chris. -- Chris Ball c...@laptop.org One Laptop Per Child -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Search Engine Proposal

2010-08-30 Thread Chris Jones
this changes in the future. Regards -- Chris Jones chrisjo...@comcen.com.au -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: fedora mission (was Re: systemd and changes)

2010-08-30 Thread Chris Adams
14.1: Now with GNOME3!) with more targeted/focused changes. That's probably not practical with the available manpower however. Why do we need to be concerned about being similar to or different from Ubuntu? -- Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet

Re: Proprietary search engines

2010-08-31 Thread Chris Jones
a unsubstantiated target on them. My solution to a problem that never was; amend the policy guidelines and move on to some more serious issues. Regards -- Chris Jones chrisjo...@comcen.com.au -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo

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