On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 12:25:12 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Mon, 2012-06-18 at 18:23 +0100, Nelson Marques wrote:
Hi all,
I have a doubt regarding the '.so's' in devel packages... From my
understanding they go in devel packages to allow the installation of
several packages with
On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Matej Cepl mc...@redhat.com wrote:
On 18/06/12 09:30, drago01 wrote:
This would just result into stagnation while the competition invents
much better wheels and leave us behind.
Abstracting for the sake of discussion from the particular case of grub2
could
Hi,
As new upstream maintainer of WINGs Display Manager, I would like
to resurrect wdm package in Fedora (/etc/X11/prefdm still have
wdm support and that's great). Major changes are systemd support
and XDG parser for /usr/share/xsessions/.
Is there a policy on packaging display managers?
On 06/18/2012 10:53 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
Well, even if Mozilla fixed that, such a solution wouldn't work for OS
updates, already due to privilege reasons. i.e. pre-staging changes as
root which are applied when a user does something simply cannot work if
you care about security or
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=833320
Bug ID: 833320
Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged
QA Contact: extras...@fedoraproject.org
Severity: unspecified
Version: rawhide
Priority: unspecified
CC:
On 06/18/2012 06:18 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
I hesitate to put words in people's mouths, and correct me if I'm
wrong, but it reads to me as if Jay and others are arguing from an
incorrect premise. That premise is to assume that there is a
God-given right for people who own computing devices
On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 01:10:34PM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
* ticket 864 F18 Feature: DNF -
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/DNF (nirik, 17:44:17)
* AGREED: Feature is approved (+8/0) (nirik, 17:56:59)
It would help a lot if a features are only approved, when they have
Hi folks,
In kernels 3.4 and 3.4.2, the kernel gets the size of my pen drives
wrong: it thinks they're EB[1] in size, when they're actually only 4GB
and 8GB. This issue is not present in the 3.3 kernel.
I was wondering if any one else is facing the same issue? The bug is
filed here[2].
As a
commit 4f25d27a2c4ad43392f3965ddad7a3ca3e1dd304
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Date: Tue Jun 19 11:24:59 2012 +0200
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index
Hi all,
since Ruby/Fedora integration had some significant changes from F16 to F17, I
thought it might be a good idea to write a summary of new features and send it
out for all - see [1].
All comments and suggestions for further development are welcome.
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On 19/06/12 11:44, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote:
Hi all,
since Ruby/Fedora integration had some significant changes from F16 to F17, I
thought it might be a good idea to write a summary of new features and send it
out for all - see [1].
All comments and suggestions for further development are
2012/6/19 Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com:
Would you be better to use an open format, not *.pdf?
PDF looks quite open to me
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On 19/06/12 11:50, Peter Lemenkov wrote:
2012/6/19 Frank Murphyfrankl...@gmail.com:
Would you be better to use an open format, not *.pdf?
PDF looks quite open to me
Cool, always thought it was closed.
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I don't use fuse-encfs anymore so I'm going to orphan it. Feel free to
take over if you're interested in maintaining it.
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/fuse-encfs
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On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 5:09 AM, Till Maas opensou...@till.name wrote:
On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 01:10:34PM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
* ticket 864 F18 Feature: DNF -
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/DNF (nirik, 17:44:17)
* AGREED: Feature is approved (+8/0) (nirik, 17:56:59)
It
On 19/06/12 12:55, Frank Murphy wrote:
Cool, always thought it was closed.
Actually it always satisfied two of the three requirements for free
format: it was always very well documented with open documents (without
any patents required), and there was always at least one independent
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=831192
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Hi,
I have a question about DNF https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/DNF
Are there any plans to replace yum with dnf in the future?
According to what is written here
https://github.com/akozumpl/dnf/wiki/Features-Considered-for-Dropping
history function will likely be dropped.
From my POV
Hi,
On 06/19/2012 11:22 AM, Ankur Sinha wrote:
Hi folks,
In kernels 3.4 and 3.4.2, the kernel gets the size of my pen drives
wrong: it thinks they're EB[1] in size, when they're actually only 4GB
and 8GB. This issue is not present in the 3.3 kernel.
I was wondering if any one else is facing
On 19 June 2012 14:44, Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com wrote:
According to what is written here
https://github.com/akozumpl/dnf/wiki/Features-Considered-for-Dropping
history function will likely be dropped.
From my POV history feature is very useful. Is there a plan to provide
history
On Tue, 2012-06-19 at 14:47 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote:
This is a known issue in the 3.4 kernel, a fix is being worked on
upstream,
see:
http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.usb.general/65976
I think it is worth considering adding the proposed fix to the Fedora
3.4 kernels for now, as
On Tue, 2012-06-19 at 14:47 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote:
I think it is worth considering adding the proposed fix to the Fedora
3.4 kernels for now, as it seems a lot of people are bitten by this,
and the proposed fix is pretty save.
Fedora Kernel maintainers: Please can we have this patch
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Date: Tue Jun 19 14:55:05 2012 +0200
0.23 bump
.gitignore |1 +
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sources|2 +-
3 files changed,
It's been true for a long time that fedora sets up home dir as 775.
But ssh, with default settings, won't allow public keys to work when
home dir has mode 775.
Not only, but the poor new fedora user, who tries to ssh into his fedora
box, won't see any message indicating what is wrong. Only if
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=832661
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0423815... 0.23 bump (*)
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I'm confused. As long as ~/.ssh is 700 it works for me.
On Jun 19, 2012 8:02 AM, Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com wrote:
It's been true for a long time that fedora sets up home dir as 775.
But ssh, with default settings, won't allow public keys to work when
home dir has mode 775.
Not only,
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 8:44 AM, Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com wrote:
Are there any plans to replace yum with dnf in the future?
I imagine (and this is pure speculation) that in some perfect future,
when dnf is considered mature, that it will probably be renamed to
yum. In other words, I
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=832661
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perl-DateTime-Format-Flexible-0.23-1.fc17 has been submitted as an update for
Fedora 17.
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/perl-DateTime-Format-Flexible-0.23-1.fc17
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perl-DateTime-Format-Flexible-0.23-1.fc17 has been submitted as an update for
Fedora 17.
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/perl-DateTime-Format-Flexible-0.23-1.fc17
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On 06/19/2012 02:44 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote:
Hi,
I have a question about DNF https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/DNF
Are there any plans to replace yum with dnf in the future?
According to what is written here
https://github.com/akozumpl/dnf/wiki/Features-Considered-for-Dropping
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=832665
Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com changed:
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On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 5:22 AM, Ankur Sinha sanjay.an...@gmail.com wrote:
I now have only one 3.3 kernel left on my system. Another broken 3.4
kernel will mean I get stuck with this bug. I've increased the
installonly_limit in yum.conf to keep 3.3 around for the time being. Any
hints/fixes?
2012/6/19 Ales Kozumplik akozu...@redhat.com:
On 06/19/2012 02:44 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote:
Hi,
I have a question about DNF https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/DNF
Are there any plans to replace yum with dnf in the future?
According to what is written here
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On 06/19/2012 02:01 PM, Neal Becker wrote:
This is rediculous. I liked the idea of 775 when it was
introduced, since it did solve an annoyance with the old unix
groups. But then we should make the default fedora install work by
setting the sshd
On 06/19/2012 10:33 AM, Ales Kozumplik wrote:
On 06/19/2012 02:44 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote:
Hi,
I have a question about DNF https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/DNF
Are there any plans to replace yum with dnf in the future?
According to what is written here
Jayson Vaughn wrote:
I'm confused. As long as ~/.ssh is 700 it works for me.
On Jun 19, 2012 8:02 AM, Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com wrote:
It's been true for a long time that fedora sets up home dir as 775.
But ssh, with default settings, won't allow public keys to work when
home dir
Current status
Targeted release: Fedora 18
Last updated: 2012-6-19
Percentage of completion: 40%
When would it hit rawhide, ballpark?
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Bryn M. Reeves wrote:
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On 06/19/2012 02:01 PM, Neal Becker wrote:
This is rediculous. I liked the idea of 775 when it was
introduced, since it did solve an annoyance with the old unix
groups. But then we should make the default fedora install
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Am 19.06.2012 06:45, schrieb Adam Williamson:
On Mon, 2012-06-18 at 16:32 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:
if things are working fine they do not need to be reinvented
and developed forever - the problem i see the last years is
that way to often are wroking things replaced because people
can
Am 19.06.2012 09:53, schrieb drago01:
On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Matej Cepl mc...@redhat.com wrote:
On 18/06/12 09:30, drago01 wrote:
This would just result into stagnation while the competition invents
much better wheels and leave us behind.
Abstracting for the sake of discussion
On 06/18/2012 05:03 PM, Przemek Klosowski wrote:
On 06/18/2012 01:21 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
i buy a computer
i do not rent it
i pay money, i own teh device after giving my money
You have to realize that the ease of installing alternative software is
a historical accident resulting from
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:
Am 19.06.2012 09:53, schrieb drago01:
On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Matej Cepl mc...@redhat.com wrote:
On 18/06/12 09:30, drago01 wrote:
This would just result into stagnation while the competition invents
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Date: Tue Jun 19 16:01:15 2012 +0200
1.53 bump
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sources |2 +-
3 files changed, 18 insertions(+),
On 6/19/12 9:01 AM, Neal Becker wrote:
This is rediculous. I liked the idea of 775 when it was introduced, since it
did solve an annoyance with the old unix groups. But then we should make the
default fedora install work by setting the sshd config to allow it to accept
this setup.
Perhaps a
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=832667
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Adam Jackson wrote:
On 6/19/12 9:01 AM, Neal Becker wrote:
This is rediculous. I liked the idea of 775 when it was introduced, since it
did solve an annoyance with the old unix groups. But then we should make the
default fedora install work by setting the sshd config to allow it to accept
- Original Message -
Hi all,
for past few days, I've been working on a project called pyp2rpm.
It's a tool that allows you to easily convert python package from
PyPI to an RPM specfile. I would like to get it tested before I
package it into Fedora, so if anyone is interested, here are
Andrew Haley wrote:
The problem with this claim is that it equivocates on the meaning of
a right. There are at least two definitions of a right in this
sense: moral rights and legal rights. These are not the same. Moral
rights are not in the gift of any Government. While we may not have a
Neal Becker wrote:
Jun 19 09:44:41 nbecker5 sshd[25418]: Authentication refused: bad
ownership or modes for directory /home/nbecker
Looks like a new change in OpenSSH then, which is IMHO a regression, unless
there's a clear security vulnerability being addressed there.
Kevin Kofler
On Jun 19, 2012 8:46 AM, Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com wrote:
Jayson Vaughn wrote:
I'm confused. As long as ~/.ssh is 700 it works for me.
On Jun 19, 2012 8:02 AM, Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com wrote:
It's been true for a long time that fedora sets up home dir as 775.
But ssh,
On Jun 19, 2012 10:07 AM, Jayson Vaughn vaughn.jay...@gmail.com wrote:
On Jun 19, 2012 8:46 AM, Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com wrote:
Jayson Vaughn wrote:
I'm confused. As long as ~/.ssh is 700 it works for me.
On Jun 19, 2012 8:02 AM, Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com wrote:
On 6/19/12 11:02 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Neal Becker wrote:
Jun 19 09:44:41 nbecker5 sshd[25418]: Authentication refused: bad
ownership or modes for directory /home/nbecker
Looks like a new change in OpenSSH then, which is IMHO a regression, unless
there's a clear security vulnerability being
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Neal Becker wrote:
Jun 19 09:44:41 nbecker5 sshd[25418]: Authentication refused:
bad ownership or modes for directory /home/nbecker
Looks like a new change in OpenSSH then, which is IMHO a
regression,
On 06/19/2012 03:45 PM, Eric Smith wrote:
I would claim that the moral right to run whatever software we wish on
hardware we own is a negative right; it doesn't put any obligation on
another party to help you do it. If you can hack up Fedora to run on a
Nokia Windows phone, more power to
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:
Am 19.06.2012 06:45, schrieb Adam Williamson:
On Mon, 2012-06-18 at 16:32 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:
if things are working fine they do not need to be reinvented
and developed forever - the problem i see the last
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On 06/19/2012 02:47 PM, Neal Becker wrote:
Bryn M. Reeves wrote: On 06/19/2012 02:01 PM, Neal Becker wrote:
This is rediculous. I liked the idea of 775 when it was
introduced, since it did solve an annoyance with the old
unix groups. But then
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=828240
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On Tue, 2012-06-19 at 09:50 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 12:25:12 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Mon, 2012-06-18 at 18:23 +0100, Nelson Marques wrote:
Hi all,
I have a doubt regarding the '.so's' in devel packages... From my
understanding they go in
On Tue, 2012-06-19 at 09:40 +0100, Andrew Haley wrote:
On 06/18/2012 06:18 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
I hesitate to put words in people's mouths, and correct me if I'm
wrong, but it reads to me as if Jay and others are arguing from an
incorrect premise. That premise is to assume that
Neal Becker wrote:
It's been true for a long time that fedora sets up home dir as 775.
No, it is not true.
$ grep UMASK /etc/login.defs
UMASK 077
This setting has been in effect as far back as Fedora 6 and possibly
much farther.
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I wrote:
I would claim that the moral right to run whatever software we wish on
hardware we own is a negative right; it doesn't put any obligation on
another party to help you do it. If you can hack up Fedora to run on a
Nokia Windows phone, more power to you, but Nokia and Microsoft aren't
On Tue, 19 Jun 2012, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
On Tue, 2012-06-19 at 09:40 +0100, Andrew Haley wrote:
On 06/18/2012 06:18 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
I hesitate to put words in people's mouths, and correct me if I'm
wrong, but it reads to me as if Jay and others are arguing
On 06/19/2012 03:50 PM, Frank Murphy wrote:
Current status
Targeted release: Fedora 18
Last updated: 2012-6-19
Percentage of completion: 40%
When would it hit rawhide, ballpark?
I can't give a date yet, but following the FESCo approval of the feature
I made review requests
Hi,
I'm trying to find out what is the best place to restart service after
update. Dovecot have runs several binaries, has some plugins,... in
short, it does not like when it's running during update. I was asked by
upstream to modify rpm package to stop it before update and start it
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Eric Smith e...@brouhaha.com wrote:
If the things that make it difficult to run software of your choosing on a
device can be proven to serve no purpose but to stifle competition, then
yes. But often those things have other purposes as well. For example,
On 06/19/2012 04:50 PM, Eric Smith wrote:
I wrote:
I would claim that the moral right to run whatever software we wish on
hardware we own is a negative right; it doesn't put any obligation on
another party to help you do it. If you can hack up Fedora to run on a
Nokia Windows phone, more
As reaction to approved MiniDebugInfo feature, we agreed on KDE SIG
meeting that we would have to break CD size limit (and the breaking
of CD size image was used as argument to accept this feature).
We agreed that 800 MiB is achievable target:
- all spins will still fit Multi Desktop Live DVD
-
On Jun 19, 2012, at 10:03 AM, Jay Sulzberger wrote:
In the United States and Europe there is a large body of statute
law, regulatory rulings, and court decisions which say that yes,
a large powerful company cannot take certain actions to impede
competitors.
Cite the law and case law that
Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
Other possibility is to go directly to 1 GiB but we are not sure
there's advantage (at least not now).
You would probably want to make the target 1 GB (SI units), not 1 GiB. The
capacity of thumb drives is measured in SI units, so a 1 GB thumb drive really
is 1000^3
On Jun 19, 2012, at 5:32 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
but it is NIT better
it is a config full of crap and script-code
You're about 6 years too late. All upstream EFI support is going into GRUB 2.
Red Hat has kept GRUB legacy on life support, and that plug is going to be
pulled sooner than
On Jun 19, 2012, at 7:59 AM, Przemek Klosowski wrote:
And, as if on cue, Microsoft just announced their own ARM tablet. Do you feel
that they should leave it open to installing alternative OS?
Apple does not. Although I don't think they're using UEFI on their hardware,
the described boot
On Tue, 19 Jun 2012, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote:
On Jun 19, 2012, at 10:03 AM, Jay Sulzberger wrote:
In the United States and Europe there is a large body of statute
law, regulatory rulings, and court decisions which say that yes,
a large powerful company cannot take
On Tue, 2012-06-19 at 09:01 -0400, Neal Becker wrote:
It's been true for a long time that fedora sets up home dir as 775.
But ssh, with default settings, won't allow public keys to work when
home dir has mode 775.
Creating the home dirs with 775 mode is actually a bug or
misconfiguration on
On Tue, 19.06.12 16:42, Andre Robatino (robat...@fedoraproject.org) wrote:
Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
Other possibility is to go directly to 1 GiB but we are not sure
there's advantage (at least not now).
You would probably want to make the target 1 GB (SI units), not 1 GiB. The
capacity
On 06/19/2012 04:19 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
So we'd like to hear from rel-engs, QA etc. what's theirs position
here.
First and foremost each SIG sets and choose what is on the spin they
ship so if you dont want to ship the bloat that gets added with the
MiniDebugInfo then simply don't
Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote:
First and foremost each SIG sets and choose what is on the spin they
ship so if you dont want to ship the bloat that gets added with the
MiniDebugInfo then simply don't atleast afaik now there is nothing
forcing spins to ship something that they don't want to.
How
commit a237bd8415c25f65c5097e9fc84f8f1e7c80bd0a
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Date: Tue Jun 19 19:17:15 2012 +0200
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On 06/19/2012 05:02 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
950 MiB as new target image size.
Arguably we should not have any specific target image size but rather a
list of valid image sizes ( cd/dvd/usb keys ) for spins to aim at which
SIG's themselves choose to use each release cycle and can adjust
Kevin Kofler wrote:
How would you suggest we implement this? rm -rf the stuff in %post?
(Yuck!!!) As I understand it, the symbols will be bloating the main packages
and not be in subpackages. (Debuginfo subpackages are what we have now.)
It would be nice if the minidebuginfo data was stored
Michael Cronenworth wrote:
It would be nice if the minidebuginfo data was stored similar to
debuginfo data. That way spins could easily rm -rf the minidebuginfo
folder to keep images smaller.
The only similarity being the separated symbol data from the binary. I
do not mean sub-packages.
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Lennart Poettering mzerqung at 0pointer.de writes:
For those too lazy to calculate the difference between 1 GB and 1 GiB: 1
GB equals 953 MiB. We hence should probably stick to to 950 MiB as new
target image size.
To avoid confusion over units or rounding/truncation (1 GB isn't *exactly* 953
The Fedora ARM team is pleased to announce that the Fedora 17 GA release
for ARM is now available for download from:
http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora-secondary/releases/17/Images/
The GA release includes prebuilt images for Versatile Express (QEMU), Trimslice,
Beagleboard xM,
On 06/19/2012 05:15 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
The target size is one of the release-blocking criteria you're supposed to
validate.
Yeah but that's just for the Default spin not spins in general which
is the Gnome Desktop environment.
If we did not have the so called Default we would be
On 06/19/2012 04:32 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 19.06.2012 09:53, schrieb drago01:
On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Matej Cepl mc...@redhat.com wrote:
On 18/06/12 09:30, drago01 wrote:
This would just result into stagnation while the competition invents
much better wheels and leave us
On Tue, 2012-06-19 at 15:33 +0200, Ales Kozumplik wrote:
On 06/19/2012 02:44 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote:
Hi,
I have a question about DNF https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/DNF
Are there any plans to replace yum with dnf in the future?
According to what is written here
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Jesse Keating
jkeat...@j2solutions.net wrote:
On 06/19/2012 04:32 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 19.06.2012 09:53, schrieb drago01:
On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Matej Cepl mc...@redhat.com wrote:
On 18/06/12 09:30, drago01 wrote:
This would just
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 10:44:00AM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
On Jun 19, 2012, at 5:32 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
but it is NIT better
it is a config full of crap and script-code
You're about 6 years too late. All upstream EFI support is going into GRUB 2.
Red Hat has kept GRUB legacy
On 06/19/2012 05:49 PM, Jesse Keating wrote:
You seem to be advocating for option C) throw up your hands and yell
THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE, and then what?
[1] =)
JBG
1. http://people.freedesktop.org/~kay/loader/
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On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 1:55 PM, Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.org wrote:
F18 is already using grub2 for EFI. I think we can remove grub-legacy
now.
What about the Fedora images for Amazon EC2? I seem to recall that
because of pvgrub use they can't use grub2 yet. (I don't claim to be
an
On Tue, 2012-06-19 at 12:03 -0400, Jay Sulzberger wrote:
Adam, just a short bald claim:
In the United States and Europe there is a large body of statute
law, regulatory rulings, and court decisions which say that yes,
a large powerful company cannot take certain actions to impede
On Tue, 2012-06-19 at 12:10 -0400, Gregory Maxwell wrote:
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Eric Smith e...@brouhaha.com wrote:
If the things that make it difficult to run software of your choosing on a
device can be proven to serve no purpose but to stifle competition, then
yes. But often
On 19 June 2012 11:51, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
On Tue, 2012-06-19 at 15:33 +0200, Ales Kozumplik wrote:
On 06/19/2012 02:44 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote:
Hi,
I have a question about DNF https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/DNF
Are there any plans to replace yum
On Tue, 2012-06-19 at 12:19 -0400, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
As reaction to approved MiniDebugInfo feature, we agreed on KDE SIG
meeting that we would have to break CD size limit (and the breaking
of CD size image was used as argument to accept this feature).
We agreed that 800 MiB is
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