Re: thanks for F15 mdadm systemd unit

2011-07-27 Thread Adam Williamson
don't know - all's I know is it works, perfectly, for my simple case, and doesn't delay boot, which is more than any NFS mounting setup I could manage / be arsed to figure out prior to systemd. (also, you owe me a beer for egregious use of the word 'leverage' as a verb. :) -- Adam Williamson Fedora

Re: RPM version goes backward in Rawhide

2011-07-27 Thread Adam Williamson
that? by...encouraging people not to use it as a dumping ground. What's the best way to achieve that? Try and change the perception of it as a dumping ground... -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net

Re: RPM version goes backward in Rawhide

2011-07-28 Thread Adam Williamson
backwards. Why is such practice allowed in Branched, but not in rawhide? Indeed; and remember we have yum distro-sync which fixes that problem quite nicely, I don't see why it shouldn't also work for quick reverts in Rawhide. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter

Re: Rapid DHCP

2011-08-01 Thread Adam Williamson
that would be one easy place to attack the DHCP server side of things, if it's not already been done. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https

Re: Fwd: Rapid DHCP

2011-08-01 Thread Adam Williamson
it can be optimized? (This improvement would also help, of course. It would be *great* if I could wake up my laptop and have it back on the network and functional within a second or so). -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http

Re: 2011-07-29 - F16 Alpha blocker bug review #3 - recap

2011-08-02 Thread Adam Williamson
, but impacts limited hardware and has a workaround. May re-evaluate if new information surfaces (jlaska, 17:48:14) What is the workaround for this bug? None is given in bugzilla. Yes, it is: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=711489#c2 -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey

Re: Power and brightness issue

2011-08-02 Thread Adam Williamson
. If the screen dims somewhat (to, say, 50%) when you unplug, goes back up to 100% when you plug back in, then dims back to 50% when you unplug again, that's intended behaviour and not a bug (though if you don't like it, it's configurable). -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw

Re: Strange RPM versioning problem in qemu in Rawhide

2011-08-02 Thread Adam Williamson
...) -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Strange RPM versioning problem in qemu in Rawhide

2011-08-02 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2011-08-02 at 11:58 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: Well, in this case yes, but this problem could emerge again in a case where there's no version bump that 'should have' been carried out. The fundamental problem here is that git commit IDs are a single hex string, but RPM version

Re: Strange RPM versioning problem in qemu in Rawhide

2011-08-02 Thread Adam Williamson
crucial. I was forgetting about that. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Fwd: Rapid DHCP

2011-08-03 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2011-08-02 at 17:12 -0400, Bill McGonigle wrote: On 08/01/2011 07:25 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: It seems like there's SOMETHING which has to happen after wake before NM even attempts to re-establish a connection, and that's the longest delay, at least for me. Anyone know what

Re: Intel HD 3000 video blank screen during install of F15

2011-08-03 Thread Adam Williamson
the UMS stuff. AIUI, only radeon can possibly work UMS now, and only with a restricted range of hardware. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https

Re: Call for Test Days for Fedora 16

2011-08-03 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2011-08-03 at 12:32 -0400, Chris Tyler wrote: On Fri, 2011-07-22 at 18:43 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2011-07-21 at 10:23 -0400, Chris Tyler wrote: Hi Adam, On the week of Aug 7 David Shein and I will be at POSSE-RIT teaching professors how open source

Re: Intel HD 3000 video blank screen during install of F15

2011-08-03 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2011-08-03 at 18:01 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: On 2011/08/03 14:04 (GMT-0700) Adam Williamson composed: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_debug_Xorg_problems#KMS-related_issues I know you're busy, but do feel free to update that page if you get a minute - I haven't touched

Re: RPM version goes backward in Rawhide

2011-08-03 Thread Adam Williamson
-but-unreleased versions? Could you please stop getting up on this horse at every opportunity, even in extremely tangentially-related threads? Everyone's aware that you think this is what should happen. I don't see that you're getting anywhere just by bringing it up at every possible opportunity. -- Adam

Re: Power and brightness issue

2011-08-04 Thread Adam Williamson
power manager, whose name I can't quite remember. File it against that. Thanks Adam for your help, I remember you since Mandriva days :) No problem, I remember you too! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http

Re: RPM version goes backward in Rawhide

2011-08-04 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2011-08-05 at 05:10 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: Adam Williamson wrote: You don't make any attempt to engage with the reason for it: to ensure that updates get sufficient testing. I kinda did, with the next paragraph (which you are quick to dismiss as off topic). :-) People

Re: RPM version goes backward in Rawhide

2011-08-04 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2011-08-04 at 22:17 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: 4. Updates-testing being enabled by default means that people installing an Alpha or Beta immediately get fed tons of 0-day (actually negative-day) updates, because the Alpha or Beta does not include those testing updates

[Test-Announce] F16 karma needed for Alpha-critical updates

2011-08-05 Thread Adam Williamson
://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/virt-viewer-0.4.0-2.fc16 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/tracker-0.10.21-2.fc16 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/vinagre-3.1.4-2.fc16 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/lvm2-2.02.86-5.fc16 Thanks again! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey

Re: [Test-Announce] F16 karma needed for Alpha-critical updates

2011-08-05 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2011-08-05 at 09:11 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: Hey, everyone. Here's a list of updates that need karma as they fix release-critical Alpha bugs, and we need them in the next compose. If people could please test and upkarma these, that'd be great. Thanks! Couple of corrections

[Test-Announce] 2011-08-08 @ 15:00 UTC - Fedora QA meeting

2011-08-08 Thread Adam Williamson
* Open discussion Be there or be rectangular! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net ___ test-announce mailing list test-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https

glibc causing crashes in most anything that does DNS lookups in F16

2011-08-08 Thread Adam Williamson
. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: New hardened build support (coming) in F16

2011-08-08 Thread Adam Williamson
be mitigated that are out of scope for this particular email. awesome stuff, thanks FESCo for following through so thoroughly on this one! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel

Re: New hardened build support (coming) in F16

2011-08-09 Thread Adam Williamson
happened via the weekly FESCo meetings, I believe, which are logged by meetbot - check http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/ for the dates / times of fesco meetings. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http

Re: Fwd: [Fedora Update] [CRITPATH] [old_testing_critpath] mdadm-3.1.3-0.git20100804.3.fc14

2011-08-11 Thread Adam Williamson
else can, that'd be great. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Fwd: [Fedora Update] [CRITPATH] [old_testing_critpath] mdadm-3.1.3-0.git20100804.3.fc14

2011-08-12 Thread Adam Williamson
who could, and could contact them and encourage them to do the testing. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org

Re: Fwd: [Fedora Update] [CRITPATH] [old_testing_critpath] mdadm-3.1.3-0.git20100804.3.fc14

2011-08-12 Thread Adam Williamson
, or anything. It'll just sit in updates-testing forever. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Single remaining F16 Alpha blocker bug is in rpm, and needs help

2011-08-13 Thread Adam Williamson
in one specific rpm build which appended a trailing / to the file list entry for any directory in the package, even if the spec didn't specify one, to cause trouble. Details are in the bug, thanks to Kalev Lember for some of the investigative work on this one. thanks all! -- Adam Williamson Fedora

Re: glibc causing crashes in most anything that does DNS lookups in F16

2011-08-15 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2011-08-08 at 15:24 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: Hey, folks. So lately Firefox has been crashing a ton for me on F16 (and Evolution's been disappearing silently too - bet it's the same cause). Today I fired it up from a console and found out what the error was: __libc_res_nquery

F16 Alpha RC5 incoming

2011-08-16 Thread Adam Williamson
the details, just wanted to let everyone know it was coming. thanks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman

Re: Anaconda memory requirements

2011-08-21 Thread Adam Williamson
and current F16 are a temporary aberration, so I'm not sure this essay on how evil they are was really warranted. The anaconda team are very well aware, and working to reduce the requirements. The thread was a simple question about time frames. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw

Re: Need input for creating new icon

2011-08-22 Thread Adam Williamson
. So a 48x48 PNG is considered a minimum requirement, everything beyond that is an optional extra; just shipping an SVG would not technically be within spec. http://standards.freedesktop.org/icon-theme-spec/icon-theme-spec-latest.html -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw

Re: Fedora kernel bug day.

2011-08-22 Thread Adam Williamson
again! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: KMyMoney in Rawhide

2011-08-22 Thread Adam Williamson
now feel free to embarrass me by dredging up my first ever usenet post, which had what I seem to recall was a two page signature. That was also an H2G2 quote. In my defence, I was about 11 at the time.) And the standard signature separator is two dashes and a space, not thirteen dashes... -- Adam

Re: Current F16 update problems with gnome-panel-libs-3.0.2-4.fc16.x86_64 (BZ 731617)

2011-08-22 Thread Adam Williamson
://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=732508 . So I'd skip that if you use nouveau. All the necessary builds have now been added to the relevant update in Bodhi, but it may take a bit of time for them to make the mirrors. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter

Re: Default services enabled

2011-08-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2011-08-21 at 20:34 -0400, Steve Grubb wrote: You're not seeing the hundreds - no thousands of emails about systemd? You are not Most of which seem to come from you, Reindl, or Steve Clark; a very active cabal doth not a rebellion make. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey

Re: Default services enabled

2011-08-22 Thread Adam Williamson
considered, this is not to be considered an exclusive list.) -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Default services enabled

2011-08-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2011-08-22 at 20:09 -0400, Genes MailLists wrote: On 08/22/2011 07:07 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Sun, 2011-08-21 at 17:09 -0400, Steve Clark wrote: -Steve Obviously a lot on this list value boot up speed over security! You're making a false assumption, which

Re: bodhi status

2011-08-22 Thread Adam Williamson
message, but are you trying to submit an f15 build to f16? If so, that's not allowed, you have to do an F16 build. I submitted an F16 build as an update earlier today and it worked fine. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http

Re: Fedora kernel bug day.

2011-08-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2011-08-22 at 22:24 -0400, Dave Jones wrote: On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 03:33:24PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: We'll be doing this in #fedora-kernel next Monday (22nd) I expect that the wiki page will continue to evolve as we start working on this, and perhaps this can even

Re: question regarding Fedora packaging

2011-08-23 Thread Adam Williamson
out to be 'the boring underlying stuff you have to do to deliver stuff in a manner such that it just works for users'. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel

Re: Default services enabled

2011-08-23 Thread Adam Williamson
a service that socket activation will happily start it back up again. This is the 'three levels of 'off'' stuff, IIRC. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel

Re: Default services enabled

2011-08-23 Thread Adam Williamson
with socket activation, daemon not currently running' is effectively an 'on' state, not an 'off' state. If you wanted the database to be 'off' you should have the service disabled, and in that case, the ping test wouldn't cause the daemon to start. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw

Re: Default services enabled

2011-08-23 Thread Adam Williamson
of *the service*: it was always 'on'. You have only changed the state of the daemon that backs the service. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https

Re: Default services enabled

2011-08-24 Thread Adam Williamson
it'. As far as I was concerned, MySQL was just an arbitrary example chosen by the OP. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https

Re: Default services enabled

2011-08-24 Thread Adam Williamson
with systemd whether the daemon is running, and ping it if so? -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Default services enabled

2011-08-24 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2011-08-24 at 19:59 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Wed, 24.08.11 10:05, Adam Williamson (awill...@redhat.com) wrote: FWIW, I do think that there may be use-cases for socket activation of a database. I'd like to support the option ... the problem is to do so without

Re: systemd not in critpath

2011-08-25 Thread Adam Williamson
things that are no longer crit path and new things that are with each release. If it isn't, there's a bug somewhere, as critpath generation should take dependencies into account - if gnome-shell actually depends on clutter, then clutter should be pulled into critpath automatically. -- Adam

Re: systemd not in critpath

2011-08-25 Thread Adam Williamson
. Otherwise I doubt that things like libimobiledevice would be on that list :) Yes, critpath includes default desktop. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel

Re: GPT in Fedora 16

2011-08-25 Thread Adam Williamson
away any existing partitions on the disk, I think. (IMBW on this one). -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman

Re: GPT in Fedora 16

2011-08-25 Thread Adam Williamson
have a BIOS boot partition on a GPT-labelled drive. It may do. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo

2011-08-26 @ 17:00 UTC - F16 Beta Blocker Bug Review #1

2011-08-26 Thread Adam Williamson
. Thanks, Adam [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_16_Beta_Release_Criteria -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing

Re: Java 7 for Fedora 16

2011-08-26 Thread Adam Williamson
about the likelihood of that happening. And I agree with Toshio that this has to go through FESCo. It would be good to present them with as comprehensive and realistic a survey as possible of the pros and cons of the various possible approaches. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw

[Test-Announce] 2011-08-29 @ 15:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting

2011-08-29 Thread Adam Williamson
pushed back! Please propose any further topics by reply and we'll add them to the agenda, or just bring them up in the open discussion. Thanks everyone! Proposed agenda: * Previous meeting follow-up * Beta preparation * l10n / i18n test week * AutoQA update * Open discussion -- Adam Williamson Fedora

Re: Memory requirements (was: Re: Fedora 16 Alpha i386 does not install in VMWare)

2011-08-29 Thread Adam Williamson
it. None of this is news to anyone actually involved in the relevant development teams =) this topic has really been done to death on this list and many others. anaconda team is aware of the memory use issue and is working on fixing it. this selinux change is one of the fixes. -- Adam Williamson

Re: Memory requirements

2011-08-29 Thread Adam Williamson
yet, in virtual or physical environments. live install is different from traditional install as it isn't installing any packages; no rpm scripts are run and take up resources. it's just dumping an image file to the hard disk. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter

Notice of intent: patching glibc

2011-08-30 Thread Adam Williamson
to do this, please start giving a crap about your bugs. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: floppy support (was: [HEADS UP] remove ddate(1) command from rawhide)

2011-08-30 Thread Adam Williamson
an entire alternative shell - the fallback mode - which exists expressly to support systems which cannot run Shell. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Proventester karma needed for libtalloc-2.0.6-1.fc15 [CRITPATH]

2011-08-30 Thread Adam Williamson
. Is a simple CIFS mount exercising libtalloc? I wasn't sure about that, so I didn't file any karma yet. I have a CIFS share from my NAS box mounted on my F16 system and that's working fine, but I wasn't sure if that's enough of a use case to +1 the update. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC

Re: Memory requirements (was: Re: Fedora 16 Alpha i386 does not install in VMWare)

2011-08-30 Thread Adam Williamson
about it. =) So regardless.. Thank You all who have beaten this thing to death and those who won't let it die until it's as efficient as possible with the hardware given. seconded! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http

Oh god, my eyes (packaging a hairball of bundled PHP stuff, tt-rss)

2011-08-30 Thread Adam Williamson
clueful has thoughts on the prototypejs and python-scriptaculous issues, or on which of the tt-rss deps are likely copylibs and don't need to be packaged separately, that'd be really helpful. thanks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca

Re: Oh god, my eyes (packaging a hairball of bundled PHP stuff, tt-rss)

2011-08-31 Thread Adam Williamson
for now I only need to worry about the PHP stuff... -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Notice of intent: patching glibc

2011-08-31 Thread Adam Williamson
be good if you would update the bug report to indicate this. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: Notice of intent: patching glibc

2011-08-31 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 11:27 +0200, Andreas Schwab wrote: Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com writes: On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 08:50 +0200, Andreas Schwab wrote: Please wait until I am finished working on it. This is not a bug that can be easily reproduced. The Arch report claims a fully

Re: Oh god, my eyes (packaging a hairball of bundled PHP stuff, tt-rss)

2011-08-31 Thread Adam Williamson
at least one significant vuln, as that bug link I put in my original mail shows. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org

Re: Notice of intent: patching glibc

2011-08-31 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 19:16 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: Adam Williamson wrote: glibc maintainers / developers, if you don't want me to do this, please start giving a crap about your bugs. Speaking of critical glibc bugs, what about this one? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id

Re: Oh god, my eyes (packaging a hairball of bundled PHP stuff, tt-rss)

2011-08-31 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 14:52 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: Real numbers before bald assertions please :-) I resign! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel

Re: Notice of intent: patching glibc

2011-09-01 Thread Adam Williamson
list thread within a day. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Notice of intent: patching glibc

2011-09-01 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2011-09-01 at 09:48 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: and I'm _not_ being paid to maintain gedit. Er...glibc. though I'm not paid to maintain gedit either. =) -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http

Re: mutter vs mutter-mbl

2011-09-01 Thread Adam Williamson
not terribly likely in the short-term, I think :/ Peter's been too busy to carry the torch lately, I believe, and is prioritizing Sugar. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list

Re: GIMP vs. poppler licensing, was: So you want to test an unstable GIMP...

2011-09-01 Thread Adam Williamson
or relevance. If you write incorrect information in there it doesn't really result in any legal issues, it's just...an error that should be corrected. But we should probably just wait for Spot to weigh in. =) -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora

Re: bluez and hci's which initially come up as hid (was Re: Some days it just doesn't pay to update)

2011-09-02 Thread Adam Williamson
days ago: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/bluez-4.96-2.fc16 - so F16 users should have it now too. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Marking zapped bugs

2011-09-02 Thread Adam Williamson
problems than it solved. So we're reluctant to add resolutions and statuses that don't exist upstream - even if Mozilla have hacked up their own copy of their own upstream bug reporting system to add resolutions... (if EXPIRED really exists in upstream bugzilla, that'd be a different case.) -- Adam

Re: Notice of intent: patching glibc

2011-09-02 Thread Adam Williamson
a set of patches, one per change, as is usual practice? -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Notice of intent: patching glibc

2011-09-02 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2011-09-02 at 22:28 +0200, Jakub Jelinek wrote: On Fri, Sep 02, 2011 at 01:20:19PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: Is there a specific reason glibc does this? Yes. Can it not have a set of patches, one per change, as is usual practice? Fedora glibc sources are from git

Re: Marking zapped bugs

2011-09-02 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2011-09-02 at 16:43 -0400, Matt McCutchen wrote: On Fri, 2011-09-02 at 12:29 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: On Fri, 2011-09-02 at 14:01 -0400, Matt McCutchen wrote: What you're really saying is that most maintainers want to work from a list of unexpired bugs. But there are ways

Re: Notice of intent: patching glibc

2011-09-02 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2011-09-02 at 13:43 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: On Fri, 2011-09-02 at 22:28 +0200, Jakub Jelinek wrote: On Fri, Sep 02, 2011 at 01:20:19PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: Is there a specific reason glibc does this? Yes. Can it not have a set of patches, one per change

Re: Marking zapped bugs

2011-09-02 Thread Adam Williamson
it to 'no bugs with keyword EXPIRED'. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Notice of intent: patching glibc

2011-09-02 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2011-09-03 at 00:50 +0200, Jan Kratochvil wrote: On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 23:02:04 +0200, Adam Williamson wrote: about the 'fedora' branch of upstream glibc. GDB uses a similar style for the merged patchsets in the Archer repository: http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/gitweb/?p

[Test-Announce] 2011-09-05 @ 15:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting (?)

2011-09-02 Thread Adam Williamson
preparation * Graphics test week * AutoQA update * Open discussion -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net ___ test-announce mailing list test-annou

Re: Notice of intent: patching glibc

2011-09-03 Thread Adam Williamson
tarball and wondering where they came from and what they do, as I was. This makes glibc not at all raptor-proof, and not very amenable to outside review or improvements, which is rather against the spirit of an open source, community project. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw

Graphics Test Week this week

2011-09-06 Thread Adam Williamson
make sure Fedora 16's graphics experience is second to none! [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2011-09-06_Nouveau [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2011-09-07_Radeon [3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2011-09-08_Intel -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC

Re: Notice of intent: patching glibc

2011-09-06 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2011-09-03 at 20:56 +0200, Roberto Ragusa wrote: On 09/03/2011 07:31 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: To look at things at a higher level: it's clearly the goal of the guidelines that any interested party (with sufficient basic knowledge) who comes along and checks a Fedora package out

submitters +1ing their own packages

2011-09-06 Thread Adam Williamson
.fc16 karma is listed as 1, the only positive feedback shown as I write this is from kengert, who submitted the update. Is this a Bodhi bug? Or does FESCo expect voluntary compliance / case-by-case enforcement of this policy? -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter

Re: submitters +1ing their own packages

2011-09-06 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2011-09-07 at 11:00 +1000, Peter Hutterer wrote: On Tue, Sep 06, 2011 at 05:02:25PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: I've mentioned before that I actually support this, but I'm in the minority, and AFAIK the current policy is supposed to be that maintainers cannot upkarma updates

Re: submitters +1ing their own packages

2011-09-07 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2011-09-07 at 18:38 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote: On 7 September 2011 01:02, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: Is this a Bodhi bug? Or does FESCo expect voluntary compliance / case-by-case enforcement of this policy? I'm guilty of this too; when I file an update that's

Re: Marking zapped bugs

2011-09-07 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2011-09-03 at 10:45 +0200, Matej Cepl wrote: Dne 2.9.2011 22:54, Adam Williamson napsal(a): Hum, I didn't realize our resolutions were so customized, I thought they were the upstream ones; this is what I've been told when discussing custom resolutions in the past. It's certainly

Re: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SysVtoSystemd

2011-09-07 Thread Adam Williamson
place to monitor progress in this case. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Did gtkhtml2 package disappear?

2011-09-07 Thread Adam Williamson
use this gui. The standard alternative seems to be webkit, quite a few packages I've noticed have migrated from gtkhtml to webkit. AFAICT, gtkhtml3 doesn't appear to have Python bindings. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora

Re: Baseurl download source for now?

2011-09-07 Thread Adam Williamson
a file on the first mirror it tries. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Compiling 32bit on 64bit Fedora

2011-09-07 Thread Adam Williamson
mentioning. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Baseurl download source for now?

2011-09-07 Thread Adam Williamson
. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: submitters +1ing their own packages

2011-09-07 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2011-09-07 at 18:47 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Wed, 07 Sep 2011 12:15:56 -0700 Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, 2011-09-07 at 18:38 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote: On 7 September 2011 01:02, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: Is this a Bodhi bug

Re: submitters +1ing their own packages

2011-09-08 Thread Adam Williamson
://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Proven_tester . -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: submitters +1ing their own packages

2011-09-08 Thread Adam Williamson
change in my private git branch, and it built...) and I installed the package from koji / updates-testing on my reasonably sane Fedora 16 installation and it worked. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net

Re: submitters +1ing their own packages

2011-09-08 Thread Adam Williamson
*because* of the relatively tight karma requirements. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: submitters +1ing their own packages

2011-09-08 Thread Adam Williamson
that. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: submitters +1ing their own packages

2011-09-08 Thread Adam Williamson
that it was assumed to be one. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

[Test-Announce] 2011-09-12 @ 15:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting

2011-09-12 Thread Adam Williamson
, and whoever ends up running the meeting will add it. Thanks! Proposed agenda: * Previous meeting follow-up (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20110829) * Beta preparation * Update policy changes? * Upcoming events * AutoQA update * Open discussion -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community

Re: openssh: no pre-release sanity check? [Re: ssh-to-rawhide hangs

2011-09-12 Thread Adam Williamson
maintainers run Rawhide, for the same reason few other people run it: it's too unstable. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https

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