Re: Modularity: The Official Complaint Thread

2019-11-05 Thread Alex Scheel
- Original Message - > From: "Kevin Kofler" > To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 7:48:47 PM > Subject: Re: Modularity: The Official Complaint Thread > > Alex Scheel wrote: > > Special care needs to be taken to make sur

Re: Modularity and all the things

2019-11-11 Thread Alex Scheel
- Original Message - > From: "Matthew Miller" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > Sent: Monday, November 11, 2019 1:16:22 PM > Subject: Re: Modularity and all the things > > On Tue, Nov 05, 2019 at 10:28:02PM +0100, Fabio Valentini wrote: > > That's all well and good,

Re: Modularity: The Official Complaint Thread

2019-11-06 Thread Alex Scheel
- Original Message - > From: "Ralf Corsepius" > To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2019 3:32:03 AM > Subject: Re: Modularity: The Official Complaint Thread > > On 11/5/19 9:41 PM, Alex Scheel wrote: > > > IMO, without a

Re: Modularity: The Official Complaint Thread

2019-11-05 Thread Alex Scheel
- Original Message - > From: "Stephen Gallagher" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 3:17:28 PM > Subject: Modularity: The Official Complaint Thread ~snip~ > 1. Once enabled, a module stream is never changed on behalf of the > user.

Java Package Orphanings

2019-10-30 Thread Alex Scheel
All, In the process of unorphaning resteasy, I picked up several other packages necessary to keep it alive. After trimming resteasy down, I was left with the following packages. - classmate (cc: lef) - cli-parser (cc: lef) - glassfish-gmbal - glassfish-management-api - glassifsh-pfl -

Re: What's the State of the Java SIG?

2019-11-18 Thread Alex Scheel
- Original Message - > From: "Mikolaj Izdebski" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > Cc: "java-devel" > Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 5:42:20 AM > Subject: Re: What's the State of the Java SIG? ~snip~ > Maintenance of obsolete packages is non-goal for Java SIG. A

Re: What are the benefits of default modular streams over non-modular packages?

2019-11-15 Thread Alex Scheel
- Original Message - > From: "Fabio Valentini" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > Sent: Friday, November 15, 2019 10:58:04 AM > Subject: Re: What are the benefits of default modular streams over > non-modular packages? > ~snipping long thread~ > Another issue is

Re: Will orphan packages with NEW F31FTBFS bugs tomorrow

2019-11-08 Thread Alex Scheel
- Original Message - > From: "Vitaly Zaitsev via devel" > To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > Cc: "Vitaly Zaitsev" > Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 10:04:57 AM > Subject: Re: Will orphan packages with NEW F31FTBFS bugs tomorrow > > On 08.11.2019 13:16, Miro Hrončok wrote: > ~snip~

Re: Fedora 31: dnf upgrade suddenly enables modular streams for protobuf

2019-12-09 Thread Alex Scheel
> 1. I didn't ask for/want a module. > 2. They aren't actually needed. After disabling them and reinstalling the > programs I care about (or could have used distro-sync) they weren't > actually needed. This is where I'll drop a plug for the Stewardship SIG. Thanks in large part to Fabio's great

Re: Switching Maven and Ant to OpenJDK 11

2019-10-28 Thread Alex Scheel
- Original Message - > From: "Mikolaj Izdebski" > To: "java-devel" > Cc: maven-ow...@fedoraproject.org, "ant-owner" , > mbo...@fedoraproject.org > Sent: Friday, October 25, 2019 1:30:32 PM > Subject: Switching Maven and Ant to OpenJDK 11 > > Hello, > > Currently default Java runtime

Re: [fedora-java] What's the State of the Java SIG?

2019-11-18 Thread Alex Scheel
- Original Message - > From: "Gerald Henriksen" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 6:40:54 PM > Subject: Re: [fedora-java] What's the State of the Java SIG? > > On Mon, 18 Nov 2019 13:37:39 +0100, you wrote: > > >Fabio Valentini

Re: Java Package Orphanings

2019-11-01 Thread Alex Scheel
The deed has been done. - A - Original Message - > From: "Alex Scheel" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 9:21:35 AM > Subject: Java Package Orphanings > > All, > > In the proce

Re: Non-Responsive Maintainer Check for jsmith

2020-02-12 Thread Alex Scheel
Thanks! Non-responsive maintainer check canceled from my perspective. - Original Message - > From: "Jared Smith" > To: "Alex Scheel" > Cc: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 1:14:11 AM &

Re: Java Dev Group and Fedora Quality

2020-01-29 Thread Alex Scheel
Haley wrote: > > > > On 1/27/20 3:13 PM, Alex Scheel wrote: > > > N.B.: I'd like to thank the Red Hat JVM team for being solid in > > > their Fedora execution. But they maintain only the JVM, and not > > > the rest of the Java ecosystem. :-) > > &

nodejs-babel-runtime - orphan?

2020-02-07 Thread Alex Scheel
\o Hey Jared, I recently tried looking for the Babel compiler in Fedora, and stumbled upon the packaged version, nodejs-babel-runtime. However, it isn't installable: Error: Problem: conflicting requests - nothing provides (npm(regenerator-runtime) >= 0.10.0 with npm(regenerator-runtime) <

Re: Java Dev Group and Fedora Quality

2020-01-27 Thread Alex Scheel
- Original Message - > From: "Tom Seewald" > To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2020 12:35:32 PM > Subject: Re: Java Dev Group and Fedora Quality > > > On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 11:07 PM Bill Chatfield via devel > *snip* > > True. Nobody cares about Java packages

Non-Responsive Maintainer Check for jsmith

2020-02-11 Thread Alex Scheel
I'm initiating the non-responsive maintainer policy for jsmith. Per: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Policy_for_nonresponsive_package_maintainers/ Week -1: Mail to jsmith (cc: devel@). Sent 7 February 2020. Subject: nodejs-babel-runtime - orphan?

Java Packaging Guidelines - .so in JARs?

2020-02-12 Thread Alex Scheel
Per $SUBJ, I was looking for guidance from the Java community about embedding .so files within JARs. I found these docs: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/packaging-guidelines/Java/#_applicability Which seem to have conflicting commentary on this: - A Java package uses JNI if it contains a

Re: Git Forge Requirements: Please see the Community Blog

2020-01-21 Thread Alex Scheel
I had replied to Fabio on IRC but... :-) - Original Message - > From: "Guido Aulisi" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 3:48:31 PM > Subject: Re: Git Forge Requirements: Please see the Community Blog > > > > > Il giorno 21 gen 2020,

Re: Git Forge Requirements: Please see the Community Blog

2020-01-21 Thread Alex Scheel
- Original Message - > From: "Michael Catanzaro" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 4:31:47 PM > Subject: Re: Git Forge Requirements: Please see the Community Blog > > On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 4:04 pm, Neal Gompa wrote: > > And any

Re: Modularity Survey

2020-04-08 Thread Alex Scheel
rity Survey > > On Wed, 2020-04-08 at 08:41 -0400, Alex Scheel wrote: > > > > There's a marketing piece from 2017 that alleges that none of gsuite > > (including their gmail for gsuite!) gets scanned for ads: > > > > https://www.blog.google/products/gmail/g-s

Re: Modularity Survey

2020-04-07 Thread Alex Scheel
- Original Message - > From: "Xavier Bachelot" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > , "Kevin Kofler" > > Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2020 12:15:37 PM > Subject: Re: Modularity Survey > > Le 07/04/2020 à 12:29, Kevin Kofler a écrit : > > Adam Williamson wrote: > >> Well. Uh.

Re: CPE Weekly: 2020-04-04

2020-04-06 Thread Alex Scheel
- Original Message - > From: "Nicolas Mailhot via devel" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > Cc: "Nicolas Mailhot" > Sent: Monday, April 6, 2020 10:57:40 AM > Subject: Re: CPE Weekly: 2020-04-04 > > Le

Re: CPE Weekly: 2020-04-04

2020-04-06 Thread Alex Scheel
- Original Message - > From: "Daniel P. Berrangé" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > Cc: "Nicolas Mailhot" > Sent: Monday, April 6, 2020 11:02:52 AM > Subject: Re: CPE Weekly: 2020-04-04 > > Watching the discussion in the other big thread, I feel it has become >

Re: CPE Weekly: 2020-04-04

2020-04-06 Thread Alex Scheel
- Original Message - > From: "Ben Rosser" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > Sent: Monday, April 6, 2020 9:49:13 AM > Subject: Re: CPE Weekly: 2020-04-04 > Thanks for sharing your thoughts. :-) > Not saying you're wrong that it would be nice to have the ability to

Re: CPE Weekly: 2020-04-04

2020-04-06 Thread Alex Scheel
- Original Message - > From: "Till Maas" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > Sent: Monday, April 6, 2020 1:39:49 PM > Subject: Re: CPE Weekly: 2020-04-04 > > On Mon, Apr 06, 2020 at 08:35:28AM -0400, Alex Scheel wrote: &g

Re: CPE Weekly: 2020-04-04

2020-04-06 Thread Alex Scheel
- Original Message - > From: "Miro Hrončok" > To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > Sent: Monday, April 6, 2020 8:28:15 AM > Subject: Re: CPE Weekly: 2020-04-04 > > On 06. 04. 20 14:19, Alex Scheel wrote: > > That part isn't actually clear to me.

Re: Modularity Survey

2020-04-08 Thread Alex Scheel
8, 2020 4:25:55 AM > Subject: Re: Modularity Survey > > On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 7:22 PM Adam Williamson > wrote: > > > On Tue, 2020-04-07 at 13:12 -0400, Alex Scheel wrote: > > > I'm sure we can trust that Red Hat did its > > > > > > due diligence and Goo

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-01 Thread Alex Scheel
- Original Message - > From: "Panu Matilainen" > To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2020 6:22:39 AM > Subject: Re: CPE Git Forge Decision > > > I also appreciate that as a community developing our own solutions is > > something important and something that

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: java-11-openjdk as system JDK in F33

2020-03-30 Thread Alex Scheel
- Original Message - > From: "Jiri Vanek" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > , "Miro Hrončok" > , "Deepak Bhole" , "Severin Gehwolf" > , "Omair Majid" > > Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 11:38:34 AM > Subject: Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: java-11-openjdk as

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: java-11-openjdk as system JDK in F33

2020-03-30 Thread Alex Scheel
- Original Message - > From: "Andrew Haley" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > , "Alex Scheel" > Cc: "Omair Majid" > Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 12:36:23 PM > Subject: Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal:

Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly: 2020-03-28)

2020-03-30 Thread Alex Scheel
- Original Message - > From: "Bruno Wolff III" > To: "Leigh Griffin" > Cc: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 2:08:21 PM > Subject: Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly: 2020-03-28) > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 17:20:04 +0100, > Leigh

Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly: 2020-03-28)

2020-03-30 Thread Alex Scheel
- Original Message - > From: "Martin Kolman" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > Cc: "Leigh Griffin" > Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 3:05:54 PM > Subject: Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly: 2020-03-28) > > And to be clear: there's a difference between a

Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly: 2020-03-28)

2020-03-30 Thread Alex Scheel
- Original Message - > From: "Neal Gompa" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > Cc: "Alex Scheel" , "Leigh Griffin" > Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 3:30:20 PM > Subject: Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly:

Re: CPE Weekly: 2020-04-04

2020-04-06 Thread Alex Scheel
- Original Message - > From: "Nicolas Mailhot via devel" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > Cc: "Nicolas Mailhot" > Sent: Monday, April 6, 2020 9:10:56 AM > Subject: Re: CPE Weekly: 2020-04-04 > > Le

Re: CPE Weekly: 2020-04-04

2020-04-06 Thread Alex Scheel
- Original Message - > From: "Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski" > To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > Sent: Monday, April 6, 2020 7:09:38 AM > Subject: Re: CPE Weekly: 2020-04-04 > > On Monday, 06 April 2020 at 12:41, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 9:36 PM Randy Barlow >

Backports of fixes from F32 -> F31?

2020-04-29 Thread Alex Scheel
Hi Florian, I've hit numerous bugs in GNOME in F31. Some of these are fixed in F32, such as this one against mutter: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1770296 Could we get some of these fixes backported? I've not heard from you on this bug at all, despite a needinfo request since

Re: Backports of fixes from F32 -> F31?

2020-04-29 Thread Alex Scheel
Let's try this with the right Florian... Sorry! - Original Message - > From: "Alex Scheel" > To: "Florian Weimer" > Cc: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 4:02:48 PM > Subject: Bac

Re: Backports of fixes from F32 -> F31?

2020-04-30 Thread Alex Scheel
- Original Message - > From: "Josh Boyer" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > Cc: "Florian Muellner" > Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 9:04:12 PM > Subject: Re: Backports of fixes from F32 -> F31? > > > Just a curious observation/question. Backports can often be

Re: F33 system wide change, java-11-openjdk as system jdk

2020-05-01 Thread Alex Scheel
Ah cool, so my guess was correct. :-) We're working on fixing this upstream and then we'll get it pulled into Fedora. Mind if we ping you for a rebuild when we're ready? - Alex - Original Message - > From: judov...@email.cz > To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > Sent: Friday, May 1, 2020

Re: Backports of fixes from F32 -> F31?

2020-05-04 Thread Alex Scheel
day, April 30, 2020 11:54:21 AM > Subject: Re: Backports of fixes from F32 -> F31? > > > > Hey, > > On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 09:30, Alex Scheel wrote: > > > > And yeah, agreed. Backports are time consuming. But this is F31, not > > F30. > > There's a

Re: Re-Launching the Java SIG

2020-05-12 Thread Alex Scheel
- Original Message - > From: "Fabio Valentini" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 9:44:33 AM > Subject: Re: Re-Launching the Java SIG > > On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 3:34 PM Alex Scheel wrote: > >

Re: Re-Launching the Java SIG

2020-05-12 Thread Alex Scheel
Obviously count us in, Fabio :-) - Original Message - > From: "Fabio Valentini" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 6:39:04 AM > Subject: Re: Re-Launching the Java SIG > > On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 12:34 PM Ty Young wrote: > > Right, I

Re: Proposal: Revise FESCo voting policy

2020-05-11 Thread Alex Scheel
- Original Message - > From: "Stephen Gallagher" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 11:52:24 AM > Subject: Proposal: Revise FESCo voting policy > > During today's FESCo meeting, we encountered an unusual voting > situation for the first

glassfish-hk2 - orphaning event notification

2020-05-22 Thread Alex Scheel
After much trimming, pruning, and hair-pulling by our fearless leader, glassfish-hk2 was determined to be a spurious dependency which Fabio replaced with one line of `sed` magic. Please see: https://pagure.io/stewardship-sig/issue/91 If anyone is interested in taking this package back for

Re: F33 system wide change, java-11-openjdk as system jdk

2020-05-01 Thread Alex Scheel
\o Hey Jiri, I don't see two of our packages in the copr: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/pki-core/ https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/dogtag-pki/ Is there a way to know why they were excluded? Thanks! - Alex - Original Message - > From: "Jiri Vanek" > To: "Development

Respinning rawhide images every filesystem update?

2020-08-03 Thread Alex Scheel
Hey list, How do Fedora rawhide images get respun? Every time filesystem updates, it causes `dnf update` to fail in a podman container because filesystem can't be updated in a container. We either need to make sure filesystem updates cause rawhide containers to be rebuilt, or figure out how to

Re: Respinning rawhide images every filesystem update?

2020-08-06 Thread Alex Scheel
- Original Message - > From: "Stephen John Smoogen" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2020 10:55:51 AM > Subject: Re: Respinning rawhide images every filesystem update? > > On Thu

Re: Respinning rawhide images every filesystem update?

2020-08-06 Thread Alex Scheel
I'm bumping this thread. This is still broken. - Original Message - > From: "Alex Scheel" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 2:36:40 PM > Subject: Respinning rawhide images every filesystem update? &

Re: Respinning rawhide images every filesystem update?

2020-08-06 Thread Alex Scheel
- Original Message - > From: "Stephen John Smoogen" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > , asch...@redhat.com > Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2020 9:55:17 AM > Subject: Re: Respinning rawhide images every filesystem update? > > On Thu

Re: rawhide - glibc/pthreads/... - broken pending mass rebuild?

2020-07-02 Thread Alex Scheel
1.9000-13.fc33.x86_64 to > glibc-common-2.31.9000-16.fc33.x86_64 resolved the issue. Nevertheless > issues like this are unexpected. There should be something, what would > force glibc update if FF requires more recent one. > > > Vít > > > Dne 01. 07. 20 v 6:57 Florian We

Re: [fedora-java] Re: java stack is dead, long live the javastack (was "500 packages FTBFS in rawhide with java-11-openjdk as system JDK")

2020-07-01 Thread Alex Scheel
- Original Message - > From: "Fabio Valentini" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2020 9:21:31 AM > Subject: Re: [fedora-java] Re: java stack is dead, long live the javastack > (was "500 packages FTBFS in rawhide with > java-11-openjdk as

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make btrfs the default file system for desktop variants

2020-06-30 Thread Alex Scheel
- Original Message - > From: "James Cassell" > To: "Fedora Development List" > Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2020 6:08:30 PM > Subject: Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make btrfs the default > file system for desktop variants > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2020, at 10:18 AM, Steven

rawhide - glibc/pthreads/... - broken pending mass rebuild?

2020-06-30 Thread Alex Scheel
Is Fedora Rawhide unstable at the moment, pending a mass rebuild? I've seen a lot of random problems related to pthreads at the moment, such as: 16/78 Test #12: JSS_DER_Encoding_of_Enumeration_regression_test ...Child aborted***Exception: 0.99 sec FINE: CryptoManager: loading JSS library

Re: RHEL 9 and modularity

2020-06-19 Thread Alex Scheel
- Original Message - > From: "Daniel P. Berrangé" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > Sent: Friday, June 19, 2020 5:58:28 AM > Subject: Re: RHEL 9 and modularity > > On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 11:28:58AM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: > > > > Dne 18. 06. 20 v 21:40 Stephen

Re: [pam_radius] aarch64 GCC failures during ./configure's working compiler step?

2020-07-27 Thread Alex Scheel
- Original Message - > From: "Dan Čermák" > To: "Alex Scheel" , "Development discussions related to > Fedora" > Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 8:25:27 AM > Subject: Re: [pam_radius] aarch64 GCC failures during ./configure's working > c

[pam_radius] aarch64 GCC failures during ./configure's working compiler step?

2020-07-27 Thread Alex Scheel
Not to pile on to what seems like a common topic... :-) Koschei notified me that one of my co-owned packages, pam_radius failed to build on aarch64 with the recent gcc update (10.1.1 -> 10.2.1). ppc and x86 built just fine. Looking at the build log, I'm almost inclined to kick off a new build on

Re: RFC7919 Diffie-Hellman parameters in Fedora

2020-08-24 Thread Alex Scheel
- Original Message - > From: "Simo Sorce" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > Sent: Monday, August 24, 2020 2:06:19 PM > Subject: Re: RFC7919 Diffie-Hellman parameters in Fedora > > On Mon, 2020-08-24 at 19:29 +0200, Christopher Engelhard wrote: > > On 24.08.20 18:43,