On Tue, 2020-06-30 at 13:34 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote:
> Given Hans proposal [1] introduced systemd/grub2/Gnome upstream
> changes
> it beg the question if now would not be the time to stop supporting
> booting in legacy bios mode and move to uefi only supported boot
> which
> has been
On Tue, 2020-06-30 at 20:32 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote:
>
>
> Grub discourages users who have tried sd-boot from coming/returning
> to
> Fedora [1].
>
> Bottom line I think this will be a good move for the distribution and
> a
> good time to start looking into and make that move.
>
>
On Tue, 2020-06-30 at 21:55 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote:
> On 30.6.2020 21:14, nick...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Tue, 2020-06-30 at 20:32 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote:
> > > Grub discourages users who have tried sd-boot from
> > > coming/returning
> > > to
> > > Fedora [1].
> > >
> > >
On Wed, 2020-07-01 at 16:30 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Mi, 01.07.20 14:45, Hans de Goede (hdego...@redhat.com) wrote:
>
> > I'm not in the bootloader-team, but I do work very closely with
> > them,
> > so I have only one question: who is going to pick up the extra
> > maintenance load t
On Wed, 2020-07-01 at 16:32 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote:
> On 1.7.2020 16:10, Solomon Peachy wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 01, 2020 at 05:19:01PM +0200, Roberto Ragusa wrote:
> > > I'm currently using BIOS, grub, grub2 basically everywhere, even
> > > on
> > > fresh new machines,
> > This won't be
On Wed, 2020-07-01 at 21:14 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> Solomon Peachy writes:
>
> > Even putting that aside, for the past several years CSM/BIOS has
> > been
> > slowly bitrotting due to a lack of real testing, as the last few
> > Windows
> > releases have mandated use of UEFI for preinstalle
On Thu, 2020-07-02 at 08:24 -0700, Gordon Messmer wrote:
> On 7/2/20 3:16 AM, nick...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Note that, even though Microsoft is pushing for UEFI on new systems
> > in
> > the OEM version of Windows, they still support booting in legacy
> > BIOS
> > mode in the latest Windows 10 versi
On Sat, 2020-07-04 at 09:44 -0400, Solomon Peachy wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 04, 2020 at 01:24:46PM -, ziba wrote:
> > Fedora should absolutely CONTINUE supporting BIOS boot (sometimes
> > wrongly
> > labeled "legacy BIOS").
>
> Yep, Fedora should continue supporting BIOS boot at least for the
> n
Hello,
My name is Nikolay Nikolov. I'm a software developer and free/open
source enthusiast. I've been using Linux since Red Hat Linux 5.0. After
Red Hat Linux 9, I upgraded to Fedora Core 1 and I've used every Fedora
version since then. :) I'm a core developer of the Free Pascal Compiler
( https:
On Sun, 2020-07-05 at 07:09 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 8:48 PM wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > My name is Nikolay Nikolov. I'm a software developer and free/open
> > source enthusiast. I've been using Linux since Red Hat Linux 5.0.
> > After
> > Red Hat Linux 9, I upgraded to F
On Sun, 2020-07-05 at 11:50 -0700, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
> On Sunday, July 5, 2020 11:31:41 AM MST Solomon Peachy wrote:
> > On Sun, Jul 05, 2020 at 10:20:01AM -0700, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
> > > Chromebook devices are neither UEFI nor BIOS. You can use GPT
> > > disk layout
> > > while still
On Mon, 2020-07-06 at 13:31 +0200, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
> Hi,
>
> > > btw, sd-boot has a few tricks up its sleeve: if during boot you
> > > keep
> > > "w" pressed down it will automatically boot into windows, similar
> > > if
> > > you keep "l" pressed down it will automaticall boot into linux,
On Mon, 2020-07-06 at 14:51 +0200, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
> Hi,
>
> > My real problem with grub2 is not that it's complex, but the fact
> > that
> > it exposes its complexities to the user.
>
> The config file syntax is a mess indeed. The fact that you need a
> config generator tool in the first
On Thu, 2020-07-09 at 07:38 -0700, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
> On Thursday, July 9, 2020 12:26:27 AM MST Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 08, 2020 at 02:17:53PM -0700, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
> >
> > > On Wednesday, July 8, 2020 10:04:01 AM MST Richard Hughes wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Wed,
On Thu, 2020-07-09 at 07:46 -0700, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
> On Thursday, July 9, 2020 3:38:54 AM MST Richard Hughes wrote:
> > On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 at 22:19, John M. Harris Jr <
> > joh...@splentity.com>
> > wrote:
> > > This is not something that's beneficial here, it's only
> > > harming our user
On Thu, 2020-07-09 at 11:17 -0700, stan via devel wrote:
> On Thu, 09 Jul 2020 18:07:39 +0300
> nick...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > Yes, that's why "secure boot" should only be an option and the user
> > must have the option to turn it off. Otherwise, it wouldn't be
> > possible to do any kernel develo
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