Re: Eclipse and Fedora 31
On 18. 11. 19 21:47, Aleksandar Kurtakov wrote: On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 10:14 PM Miro Hrončok <mailto:mhron...@redhat.com>> wrote: On 18. 11. 19 19:55, Aleksandar Kurtakov wrote: > Dear Eclipse users, > Whoever faces issues installing Eclipse RPMs on Fedora 31 - this is beyond us > (Eclipse packagers) and depends on a number of bigger issues in Fedora land both > technical and political. There are no political issues here, FESCo has clearly stated that once the technical issues are solved, the default module will be approved. You are repeatedly suggesting that we are trying to block this based on opinion. We don't. We simply block this based on: - lack of full specified request from your side - technical issues preventing making eclipse the default stream I am not suggesting anyone trying to block based on opinion. In that case I was reading your e-mail wrong and I apologize. -- Miro Hrončok -- Phone: +420777974800 IRC: mhroncok ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Eclipse and Fedora 31
On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 10:14 PM Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 18. 11. 19 19:55, Aleksandar Kurtakov wrote: > > Dear Eclipse users, > > Whoever faces issues installing Eclipse RPMs on Fedora 31 - this is > beyond us > > (Eclipse packagers) and depends on a number of bigger issues in Fedora > land both > > technical and political. > > There are no political issues here, FESCo has clearly stated that once the > technical issues are solved, the default module will be approved. > > You are repeatedly suggesting that we are trying to block this based on > opinion. > We don't. We simply block this based on: > > - lack of full specified request from your side > - technical issues preventing making eclipse the default stream > I am not suggesting anyone trying to block based on opinion. Let's agree that one's technical issue is someone else's political issue (we faced this in Eclipse SWT when had to drop Gtk 2.x support - we had a number of very good technical reasons to do that but for many of our users it was a political decision to do so) and there is not much one can do to change that as it requires to get to the same level of deep involvement in the issue. IMHO with modularity in Fedora we are facing similar case which would better be resolved really soon and clearer guidelines and recommendations are given to people that just want to ship their software on/for Fedora. And I wish best of luck to everyone involved in it to achieve that soon. > > -- > Miro Hrončok > -- > Phone: +420777974800 > IRC: mhroncok > ___ > devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > -- Alexander Kurtakov Red Hat Eclipse Team ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Eclipse and Fedora 31
On 18. 11. 19 19:55, Aleksandar Kurtakov wrote: Dear Eclipse users, Whoever faces issues installing Eclipse RPMs on Fedora 31 - this is beyond us (Eclipse packagers) and depends on a number of bigger issues in Fedora land both technical and political. There are no political issues here, FESCo has clearly stated that once the technical issues are solved, the default module will be approved. You are repeatedly suggesting that we are trying to block this based on opinion. We don't. We simply block this based on: - lack of full specified request from your side - technical issues preventing making eclipse the default stream -- Miro Hrončok -- Phone: +420777974800 IRC: mhroncok ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Eclipse and Fedora 31
Dear Eclipse users, Whoever faces issues installing Eclipse RPMs on Fedora 31 - this is beyond us (Eclipse packagers) and depends on a number of bigger issues in Fedora land both technical and political. Until this is fixed, you're strongly recommended to try using Eclipse from Flathub [1]. It should provide you with similar system level integration as the RPMs and is maintained by the very same people who do the Fedora RPMs. In case of issues don't hesitate to contact me or Mat Booth but ideally open issues at [2] . [1] https://flathub.org/apps/details/org.eclipse.Java [2] https://github.com/flathub/org.eclipse.Java -- Alexander Kurtakov Red Hat Eclipse Team ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
